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  • S soap brain

    Are tube amplifiers actually better than transistor amplifiers, or is it all psychological? :confused:

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    R Giskard Reventlov
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    actually is always redundant, in actual fact.

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    • S soap brain

      Are tube amplifiers actually better than transistor amplifiers, or is it all psychological? :confused:

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      Lost User
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      Yeah, way better tone, and they distort better.

      Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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        Yeah, way better tone, and they distort better.

        Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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        soap brain
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        Is this just something you've convinced yourself of to justify in your mind a more expensive purchase? ;)

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          actually is always redundant, in actual fact.

          "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me

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          soap brain
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          Yeah, but then, the expected value of the redundancy of English is something like 50%.

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          • S soap brain

            Is this just something you've convinced yourself of to justify in your mind a more expensive purchase? ;)

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            Dalek Dave
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            No, it is better and there is a reason. Old School valve technology is analogue, not digital, so it alters continuously not in discrete steps.

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            • S soap brain

              Is this just something you've convinced yourself of to justify in your mind a more expensive purchase? ;)

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              http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guitar_amplifier[^]

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                No, it is better and there is a reason. Old School valve technology is analogue, not digital, so it alters continuously not in discrete steps.

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                soap brain
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                Dalek Dave wrote:

                Old School valve technology is analogue, not digital, so it alters continuously not in discrete steps.

                Well, when you get down to a quantum level... ;P I know this already - that doesn't necessarily make it better.

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                  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guitar_amplifier[^]

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                  soap brain
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                  ;P You're probably right, y'know. I'm just avoiding doing an assignment here. :-O

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                  • L Lost User

                    I like technology. I like gadgets, I like machines, always have done. And I love the way it gets better and better. But, I had a thought the other day while ripping the solo for Communicaiton Breakdown: Here I am playing 1960s technology in preference to 2010 technology. The amp has valves in it! The guitar is a copy of a 60s model, built to a very similar spec, heck, even the song comes form the 60's :) And in fact this kind of setup, Les Paul/Strat + Marshal/Fender/Peavey/MessaBoogie/HiWatt valve amp is the prefered setup of almost all guitarists. Modeling amps have some interest, and active electronics too, but are not in anyway as good as the old technology. Odd. Can we really not make it better? Its kind of like the horseshoe crab, it must be so well adapted that it hasnt evolved in millions of years. Will we still be playing this same kind of gear in millions of years time?

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                    fat_boy wrote:

                    Can we really not make it better?

                    But what's better? Is it more correct to say that that kind of amplifier suits the musical taste of the time or you personally and is therefore seen as better? Are other kinds of amps better for different styles of music? I'd pick you as a 60's - 80's generic rock man, its no doubt you like the kind of amp that suits that music.

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                      Yeah, way better tone, and they distort better.

                      Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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                      Ian Shlasko
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                      Yep, my old college roommate plays electric bass and builds his own amplifiers... Always used to talk about how vacuum tubes were so much better for exactly that reason.

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                        I like technology. I like gadgets, I like machines, always have done. And I love the way it gets better and better. But, I had a thought the other day while ripping the solo for Communicaiton Breakdown: Here I am playing 1960s technology in preference to 2010 technology. The amp has valves in it! The guitar is a copy of a 60s model, built to a very similar spec, heck, even the song comes form the 60's :) And in fact this kind of setup, Les Paul/Strat + Marshal/Fender/Peavey/MessaBoogie/HiWatt valve amp is the prefered setup of almost all guitarists. Modeling amps have some interest, and active electronics too, but are not in anyway as good as the old technology. Odd. Can we really not make it better? Its kind of like the horseshoe crab, it must be so well adapted that it hasnt evolved in millions of years. Will we still be playing this same kind of gear in millions of years time?

                        Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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                        Niklas L
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                        Maybe 100% is 100% after all..

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