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Wait, I thought you believe the government should take care of everyone and provide for them.
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Even if they could not sort out their own problems, what have they ever done for us? What will they ever do for us? There is no "score" to settle* and no benefit to gain, so helping them is just completely useless. * their colonial past was the best thing that ever happened to them. It all went downhill from there. Oh and did you hear about those people who blamed the govt because they were allowed to live too close to a river? Those dumbasses chose to live there themselves! Do the gene-pool a favour and die. Oh wait, they did! Many of them anyway. Serves them right.
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Pakistan does not need foreign aid to sort out its problems... It merely needs to spend the £10,000,000,000 a year it spends on its nuclear program in other places? So personally I think we need to stop giving them money.
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Dalek Dave wrote:
It merely needs to spend the £10,000,000,000 a year it spends on its nuclear program
£10 billion a year? The USA will spend only $18 billion a year, over the next 10 years, modernising its nuclear arsenal. The Pakistanis must have some pretty heavy stuff!! Stay on their good side - send the money.
Bob Emmett "Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?" -Charles Babbage, Passages from the Life of a Philosopher
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Dalek Dave wrote:
It merely needs to spend the £10,000,000,000 a year it spends on its nuclear program
£10 billion a year? The USA will spend only $18 billion a year, over the next 10 years, modernising its nuclear arsenal. The Pakistanis must have some pretty heavy stuff!! Stay on their good side - send the money.
Bob Emmett "Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?" -Charles Babbage, Passages from the Life of a Philosopher
Obviously the £10,000,000,000 was just a Suitably Large Number as a metaphor. The point being that if they didn't spend all that money on Nukes they wouldn't have the begging bowls out. Also, they are a weak governemnt, and if there is a coup, who gets to control the button?
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Dalek Dave wrote:
It merely needs to spend the £10,000,000,000 a year it spends on its nuclear program
£10 billion a year? The USA will spend only $18 billion a year, over the next 10 years, modernising its nuclear arsenal. The Pakistanis must have some pretty heavy stuff!! Stay on their good side - send the money.
Bob Emmett "Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?" -Charles Babbage, Passages from the Life of a Philosopher
Bob Emmett wrote:
over the next 10 years, modernising its nuclear arsenal.
I used to witness some pretty interesting sights when we lived outside Cheyenne. Three times, I managed to get tangled up with convoys transporting something rating pretty high security between Warren AFB and I-80. Think in terms of helicopters circling at very low altitide, HumVees with 50 cal. machine guns in turrets on top, SUV's filled with serious looking, non-descript large men, and in the middle, a flatbed with a unique container. [edit (again)] Well, not exactly a turret (re the HV's), but an armored, shielded position raised above the center of the vehicle, with at least a single 50 on a swivel mount. [/edit] The very stuff conspiracy theories are made of. [edit] (Just to be clear, the connection is the modernization of the Minuteman warheads stationed in SE WY and NE Co. And the Dakotas, and elsewhere.) [/edit] Actually, we used to see some pretty neat nuke security related stuff. The Air Force apparently uses a rapid reaction force deployed from C-130's to protect the missile sites near Cheyenne. Our house lies right underneath a standard approach used when they run mock deployments against at least one launch complex. Regularly, several times a week, at varying times, typically a pair of C-130's would come in low and fast with their tail doors down right over our place and headed towards some area to the NE. We couldn't see what was on the ground there, but twice I was in a position while driving into town to see the end of their run - what appeared to be about a half-dozen individuals parachuted out the back of a plane, followed by what appeared to be an armored vehicle on a palette suspended by parachutes. Something tells me that if you were to get to close to one of the launch sites, you'd get a better look than I did. ;)
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Pakistan does not need foreign aid to sort out its problems... It merely needs to spend the £10,000,000,000 a year it spends on its nuclear program in other places? So personally I think we need to stop giving them money.
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Dalek Dave wrote:
Pakistan does not need foreign aid to sort out its problems...
I would imagine the rationale behind giving the money is to stop the Taliban and their ilk making capital out of the situation however they can.
Dalek Dave wrote:
It merely needs to spend the £10,000,000,000 a year it spends on its nuclear program in other places?
Couldn't find anything to subsatntiate that figure but I did find this: Sats Show Pakistan Super-Sizing Its Nuclear Weapons Complex[^] which I'm sure costs a pretty penny so I would heartily agree that the money would be better spent helping their own people rather than preparing to kill millions of others.
Dalek Dave wrote:
So personally I think we need to stop giving them money.
I wish we could: they do nothing for us and whilst most of their population lives in the stone age they never will as long as they cling to a culture and beliefs that is utterly at odds with ours.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
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Pakistan does not need foreign aid to sort out its problems... It merely needs to spend the £10,000,000,000 a year it spends on its nuclear program in other places? So personally I think we need to stop giving them money.
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC League Table Link CCC Link[^]
Dalek Dave wrote:
Pakistan does not need foreign aid to sort out its problems...
Perhaps they should go cap-in-hand to the IMF or the World Bank thus causing additional future financial pain. That's all well and good for addressing medium and longer term infrastructure issues but does nothing to resolve the immediate crisis.
Dalek Dave wrote:
spends on its nuclear program in other places
A red herring? You can't dis-invent such weaponry. Consequently it needs to be protected from those who might seek to compromise it and to ensure its stability whilst in storage.
Dalek Dave wrote:
stop giving them money
Well, many inhabitants of the UK have relatives and friends over there and they will contribute irrespective of your views.
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Dalek Dave wrote:
Pakistan does not need foreign aid to sort out its problems...
Perhaps they should go cap-in-hand to the IMF or the World Bank thus causing additional future financial pain. That's all well and good for addressing medium and longer term infrastructure issues but does nothing to resolve the immediate crisis.
Dalek Dave wrote:
spends on its nuclear program in other places
A red herring? You can't dis-invent such weaponry. Consequently it needs to be protected from those who might seek to compromise it and to ensure its stability whilst in storage.
Dalek Dave wrote:
stop giving them money
Well, many inhabitants of the UK have relatives and friends over there and they will contribute irrespective of your views.
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Richard A. Abbott wrote:
Perhaps they should go cap-in-hand to the IMF
They did, a few years ago, something like 8 billion or some such they borrowed.
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
and they get all their money from us (and others, of course0 anyway. Where does the IMF get its money?[^] I believe that the US are the largest contributor.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
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Richard A. Abbott wrote:
Perhaps they should go cap-in-hand to the IMF
They did, a few years ago, something like 8 billion or some such they borrowed.
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
No doubt on that, but the IMF loan system usually is a fairly long-winded affair and probably does nothing to address an immediate humanitarian crisis. Although I suppose they could make some funds immediately available, but isn't this usually done for infrastructure issues? And it certainly isn't charity or aid.
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Wait, I thought you believe the government should take care of everyone and provide for them.
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How can they, when they're too busy spying on you? :suss:
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and they get all their money from us (and others, of course0 anyway. Where does the IMF get its money?[^] I believe that the US are the largest contributor.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
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I wonder how fast we could pull ourselves out of the financial hole we are in by NOT shelling out hods of cash to these countries?
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
Quite quickly, I would imagine. I get the purpose of foreign aid but I also believe that charity starts at home: we have sufficient internal problems that the money would best be spent here first.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
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Dalek Dave wrote:
Pakistan does not need foreign aid to sort out its problems...
Perhaps they should go cap-in-hand to the IMF or the World Bank thus causing additional future financial pain. That's all well and good for addressing medium and longer term infrastructure issues but does nothing to resolve the immediate crisis.
Dalek Dave wrote:
spends on its nuclear program in other places
A red herring? You can't dis-invent such weaponry. Consequently it needs to be protected from those who might seek to compromise it and to ensure its stability whilst in storage.
Dalek Dave wrote:
stop giving them money
Well, many inhabitants of the UK have relatives and friends over there and they will contribute irrespective of your views.
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I wonder how fast we could pull ourselves out of the financial hole we are in by NOT shelling out hods of cash to these countries?
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
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You can de-commision it.
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Pakistan does not need foreign aid to sort out its problems... It merely needs to spend the £10,000,000,000 a year it spends on its nuclear program in other places? So personally I think we need to stop giving them money.
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I have been thinking of that for a long time now.
That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_
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Did you vote for Wilders by any chance? :)
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription