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  • D Dalek Dave

    People keep using the limiting oil argument as as argument over fuel. Most oil is not used as fuel. In fact petrol is a waste product, it would have no use unless it was burnt as a car fuel. Most of the oil we pull from the earth is used to make plastics, medicine and other heavy hydrocarbon dependant products. The first internal combustion engine, built by Mister Benz, was designed to run on peanut oil.

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    Oh so that's why oil refineries contain multiple stages that break the heavier molecules (plastics) into lighter ones (burnable fuels)..

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      Oh so that's why oil refineries contain multiple stages that break the heavier molecules (plastics) into lighter ones (burnable fuels)..

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      Yes it's called Fractional Distillation[^] :) The theory of it is amazingly simple :) Here is a diagram of what temperature the different fules are collected at: http://www.bbc.co.uk/schools/gcsebitesize/science/images/5_fractional_distillation.gif[^] (One of the few things I actually understood in Chemistry when I was at school, I prefered Physics and Biology :) )


      "People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid."

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        Yes it's called Fractional Distillation[^] :) The theory of it is amazingly simple :) Here is a diagram of what temperature the different fules are collected at: http://www.bbc.co.uk/schools/gcsebitesize/science/images/5_fractional_distillation.gif[^] (One of the few things I actually understood in Chemistry when I was at school, I prefered Physics and Biology :) )


        "People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid."

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        Yes... But this thing[^] and this other thing[^] are specifically used "to reduce the quantity of residual oil produced in the distillation of crude oil and to increase the yield of more valuable middle distillates (heating oil and diesel)" and "to convert the high-boiling, high-molecular weight hydrocarbon fractions of petroleum crude oils to more valuable gasoline, olefinic gases and other products" So hey, they are making fuel on purpose

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        • D Dalek Dave

          People keep using the limiting oil argument as as argument over fuel. Most oil is not used as fuel. In fact petrol is a waste product, it would have no use unless it was burnt as a car fuel. Most of the oil we pull from the earth is used to make plastics, medicine and other heavy hydrocarbon dependant products. The first internal combustion engine, built by Mister Benz, was designed to run on peanut oil.

          ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC League Table Link CCC Link[^]

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          LloydA111
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          Dalek Dave wrote:

          People keep using the limiting oil argument as as argument over fuel.

          Personally, I think that if we really were running out of oil, the goverment/oil industry would keep it quiet until a better alternative was found, to prevent panic etc. Although I could be wrong ;P


          "People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid."

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            Dalek Dave wrote:

            People keep using the limiting oil argument as as argument over fuel.

            Personally, I think that if we really were running out of oil, the goverment/oil industry would keep it quiet until a better alternative was found, to prevent panic etc. Although I could be wrong ;P


            "People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid."

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            There is so much oil, especially abiotic oil, that the government and big oil companies are afraid their monopoly is over unless they pass strict legislation that keep the prices up.

            Invisible Empire: A New World Order Defined (High Quality 2:14:01)[^] Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] The Truthbox[^]

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            • D Dalek Dave

              People keep using the limiting oil argument as as argument over fuel. Most oil is not used as fuel. In fact petrol is a waste product, it would have no use unless it was burnt as a car fuel. Most of the oil we pull from the earth is used to make plastics, medicine and other heavy hydrocarbon dependant products. The first internal combustion engine, built by Mister Benz, was designed to run on peanut oil.

              ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC League Table Link CCC Link[^]

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              What medicine is made from oil? I wouldn't call BPA [^]a medicine.

              Invisible Empire: A New World Order Defined (High Quality 2:14:01)[^] Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] The Truthbox[^]

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              • D Dalek Dave

                People keep using the limiting oil argument as as argument over fuel. Most oil is not used as fuel. In fact petrol is a waste product, it would have no use unless it was burnt as a car fuel. Most of the oil we pull from the earth is used to make plastics, medicine and other heavy hydrocarbon dependant products. The first internal combustion engine, built by Mister Benz, was designed to run on peanut oil.

                ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC League Table Link CCC Link[^]

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                I now have this image of Anna running round Bourenmouth after cars that smell of fish and chips. Either you get it or you don't. :laugh:

                Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^]

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                • L LloydA111

                  Yes it's called Fractional Distillation[^] :) The theory of it is amazingly simple :) Here is a diagram of what temperature the different fules are collected at: http://www.bbc.co.uk/schools/gcsebitesize/science/images/5_fractional_distillation.gif[^] (One of the few things I actually understood in Chemistry when I was at school, I prefered Physics and Biology :) )


                  "People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid."

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                  Cracking oil Gromit.

                  Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^]

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                    What medicine is made from oil? I wouldn't call BPA [^]a medicine.

                    Invisible Empire: A New World Order Defined (High Quality 2:14:01)[^] Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] The Truthbox[^]

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                    Some medicines, such as penicillin, are made by organisms, but most are manufactured from chemicals, and many of these are made from petroleum products. Acetylsalicylic acid, or ASA, is the active ingredient in many of the well-known, over-the-counter pain relievers. ASA is manufactured from petrochemicals. One of the first uses of oil, dating back thousands of years, was as medicine. Other early uses included illumination and as a boat resin to help keep ships sea-worthy. This Wikipedia link will explain more about petrochemicals and their health care and pharmaceutical use Petrochemicals[^]

                    I want to die like my grandfather- asleep, not like the passengers in his car, screaming!

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                    • L LloydA111

                      Dalek Dave wrote:

                      People keep using the limiting oil argument as as argument over fuel.

                      Personally, I think that if we really were running out of oil, the goverment/oil industry would keep it quiet until a better alternative was found, to prevent panic etc. Although I could be wrong ;P


                      "People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid."

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                      Gonzoox
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                      Probably we are not running out of oil, just becoming harder to extract

                      I want to die like my grandfather- asleep, not like the passengers in his car, screaming!

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                      • L Lost User

                        I now have this image of Anna running round Bourenmouth after cars that smell of fish and chips. Either you get it or you don't. :laugh:

                        Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^]

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                        Nagy Vilmos
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                        After all those fumes, I thionk Anna will!


                        Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. or "Drink. Get drunk. Fall over." - P O'H

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                          Some medicines, such as penicillin, are made by organisms, but most are manufactured from chemicals, and many of these are made from petroleum products. Acetylsalicylic acid, or ASA, is the active ingredient in many of the well-known, over-the-counter pain relievers. ASA is manufactured from petrochemicals. One of the first uses of oil, dating back thousands of years, was as medicine. Other early uses included illumination and as a boat resin to help keep ships sea-worthy. This Wikipedia link will explain more about petrochemicals and their health care and pharmaceutical use Petrochemicals[^]

                          I want to die like my grandfather- asleep, not like the passengers in his car, screaming!

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                          GenJerDan
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                          I leave for a week and come back to find this kind of nonsense? "Thousands of years"? Sheesh. Everyone knows oil wasn't discovered until 1962, by a man out hunting in the Ozarks.

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                            I leave for a week and come back to find this kind of nonsense? "Thousands of years"? Sheesh. Everyone knows oil wasn't discovered until 1962, by a man out hunting in the Ozarks.

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                            wolfbinary
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                            Was his name Jed Clampet?

                            That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_

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                              Was his name Jed Clampet?

                              That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_

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                              GenJerDan
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                              Not sure of the spelling, but I believe that's the one. It's been so long since I took an American History course, my memory is a bit foggy on the details.

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                                Not sure of the spelling, but I believe that's the one. It's been so long since I took an American History course, my memory is a bit foggy on the details.

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                                Does anyone else remember the spoof 'The Bel-Air Arabs', on the old SNL? Gilda Radner as Granny... can't remember the rest. One line from the theme song stuck with me, though... 'And then one day he was out shooting at some Jews, and up through the ground came bubbling crude...' :laugh:

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