The Holocene extinciton period
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fat_boy wrote:
What abuses?
Since the Industrial Revolution, peoples around the world have blighted the landscape (strip mining for example), polluted the land, rivers and oceans as well as the air you breathe and the food you consume. You need only Google for examples. (make it a scholarly search - you'll get better results from more trustworthy sources) After us humans have departed this planet, this planet will recover, it always has, but it takes time - more than just a few generations. But whilst we are here, we should really do a better job of looking after it, as if we don't, nobody will.
Blighted the landscape? Have you never heard of the Siberian Traps? (Or the Deccan Traps for that matter). That caused more destruction desolation than mankind ever has. What if The Yellowstone Super Volcano went up tomorrow, would that not be a natural destruction of fertile ground and natural resources? Ice ages? The Oxygen Catastrophe? The Iron Catastrophe? Bolide Impact? Local GRB? Conintental Drifts? Haline Inversion? Supernovae? Evolution of Disease? These are all natural and all would do more damage than man could ever do. The earth is a speck of dust, and is not alive, merely in a state of dynamic equilibrium. You should read Stephen J Gould, very enlightening.
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Richard A. Abbott wrote:
blighted the landscape
volcanoes, avalanches, land slides, floods, earthquakes, all blight the landscape. As for pollution. Yes, we have, but increasingly we bring in laws to halt it. So we are less of a blight onm the planet than before? :)
Richard A. Abbott wrote:
After us humans have departed this planet, this planet will recover
Shame for all those endangered species we are saving. If we go they are fucked.
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
fat_boy wrote:
If we go they are f***ed.
Not a good argument, 99.99999999999% of all species that ever existed are extinct.
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fat_boy wrote:
If we go they are f***ed.
Not a good argument, 99.99999999999% of all species that ever existed are extinct.
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Whatever you say, its true. THe world is better off under our stewardship (if such a thinkg is in any way important) since as you say 99% of species have already gone, so why worry about a few more.
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
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Whatever you say, its true. THe world is better off under our stewardship (if such a thinkg is in any way important) since as you say 99% of species have already gone, so why worry about a few more.
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
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That is such absoloute crap. Ever seen a colony of sea birds on a rock/cliff? Its uterly covered in bird shit. The ground so turned over by centuries of nest digging that barely a single plant grows. Whats going through the mind of a bear when it rips apart a bees nest for the honey? Does it take every other hive to ensure its got a good future supply? Its only natural predation and the scarcity of their prey that keeps numbers in check.
Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:
Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding environment but you humans do not.
More crap, and by the way YOU are a human too. The only species that CARES for the environemnt is humans! Whens the last time you saw a dog trying to save an endangered species? Instinctive balance! Where do you get this bolocks? Balanc in nature is acchieved by the relative numbers of predators and quantity of naturally available food. Man though has learnt to protect himself from his predators and produce his own food. ANd fo rthis you condemn us as some kind of parasite? Intelligence is a disease? Well then why dont you be stupid and go and live in the jungle. See how long you last.
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
You seem to think that linking to a page or video automatically makes the poster agree with EVERYTHING is says :) Curiously, that would make you agree with all of the GW pages you criticize. :laugh:
Cheers, विक्रम (Got my troika of CCCs!) After all is said and done, much is said and little is done.
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Blighted the landscape? Have you never heard of the Siberian Traps? (Or the Deccan Traps for that matter). That caused more destruction desolation than mankind ever has. What if The Yellowstone Super Volcano went up tomorrow, would that not be a natural destruction of fertile ground and natural resources? Ice ages? The Oxygen Catastrophe? The Iron Catastrophe? Bolide Impact? Local GRB? Conintental Drifts? Haline Inversion? Supernovae? Evolution of Disease? These are all natural and all would do more damage than man could ever do. The earth is a speck of dust, and is not alive, merely in a state of dynamic equilibrium. You should read Stephen J Gould, very enlightening.
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC League Table Link CCC Link[^]
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Richard A. Abbott wrote:
blighted the landscape
volcanoes, avalanches, land slides, floods, earthquakes, all blight the landscape. As for pollution. Yes, we have, but increasingly we bring in laws to halt it. So we are less of a blight onm the planet than before? :)
Richard A. Abbott wrote:
After us humans have departed this planet, this planet will recover
Shame for all those endangered species we are saving. If we go they are fucked.
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
fat_boy wrote:
volcanoes, avalanches, land slides, floods, earthquakes, all blight the landscape.
Yes, but they are natural, just like the earthquake a couple hours ago (Japan South Islands)
fat_boy wrote:
we bring in laws to halt it
Better late than never.
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You seem to think that linking to a page or video automatically makes the poster agree with EVERYTHING is says :) Curiously, that would make you agree with all of the GW pages you criticize. :laugh:
Cheers, विक्रम (Got my troika of CCCs!) After all is said and done, much is said and little is done.
I am sorry my response was so strong to your last post. Its not that I men to be rude, or that I dislike you, its just that I see so much modern muddle headedness in what you write. Did you link to a page? I dont recall noticing.
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
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fat_boy wrote:
volcanoes, avalanches, land slides, floods, earthquakes, all blight the landscape.
Yes, but they are natural, just like the earthquake a couple hours ago (Japan South Islands)
fat_boy wrote:
we bring in laws to halt it
Better late than never.
Richard A. Abbott wrote:
Yes, but they are natural
And mankind, and animla, and part of nature, who grew up on this planet, cant use the natural resources for himself because it is in some way natutal, but it is OK for a volcano ti destroy entire islands, or even continents because that IS natural?
Richard A. Abbott wrote:
Better late than never.
Yes. And we ARE getting better. I am auite serious. We are the best animal this planet ever saw, and its better off with us looking after it.
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
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Dalek Dave wrote:
You, for example will die and that will be the end of the your line.
The only thing you have going for you is that you have a few Euros laying around, and after that's all used up the girls wont have anything to do with you, especially after they find out you cant afford viagra anymore. I don't even have to shave, comb my hair, or take a shower, or act very sociable. In fact when I look rugged, and haven't taken a shower in a couple days and not wearing deodorant, and act serious girls seem to like me more (though some really don't).
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