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  • L Lost User

    As we all know, there is unemployment. But still certain members of parliament are trying to get more women to work, by (for example) subsidizing day care. Why? What good would it do? Wouldn't that just result in an even higher unemployment rate?

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    GenJerDan
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    harold aptroot wrote:

    But still certain members of parliament are trying to get more women to work, by (for example) subsidizing day care.

    Silly. Just put the kids to work, too. Added benefit: manuals for cheap merchandise from the UK will not need translating into garbled English.

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    • L Lost User

      As we all know, there is unemployment. But still certain members of parliament are trying to get more women to work, by (for example) subsidizing day care. Why? What good would it do? Wouldn't that just result in an even higher unemployment rate?

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      Bad day to ask the English that our government has today announced measures to sack/lay off/delete/expunge at least 500,000 publicly employed workers while at the same time introducing draconian measures to force the unemployed and the sick back into work. All in the name of creating more jobs.

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      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

        There are times when I really wish that any government could be as organised as you make them out. Unfortunately, I have yet to see any government that could successfully run a bath, let alone plan a vast and subtle conspiracy to demoralise, denigrate and dominate citizens.

        Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together.

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        That is what you tell yourself to make you feel safer, but in reality the government controls just about every part of your life. They aren't stupid, If they were stupid they wouldn't be in power.

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        • C CaptainSeeSharp

          That is what you tell yourself to make you feel safer, but in reality the government controls just about every part of your life. They aren't stupid, If they were stupid they wouldn't be in power.

          Invisible Empire: A New World Order Defined (High Quality 2:14:01)[^] Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] The Truthbox[^]

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          CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

          If they were stupid they wouldn't be in power

          Have you ever met a politician? Getting the shoes on the right feet is a major challenge!

          Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together.

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          • C CaptainSeeSharp

            That is what you tell yourself to make you feel safer, but in reality the government controls just about every part of your life. They aren't stupid, If they were stupid they wouldn't be in power.

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            Then explain Geert Wilders. He wasn't even smart enough to do VWO. I'm surprised he knows how to breathe.

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            • P pseudonym67

              Bad day to ask the English that our government has today announced measures to sack/lay off/delete/expunge at least 500,000 publicly employed workers while at the same time introducing draconian measures to force the unemployed and the sick back into work. All in the name of creating more jobs.

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              Given that 30% of my council tax goes to pensions...

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              • L Lost User

                As we all know, there is unemployment. But still certain members of parliament are trying to get more women to work, by (for example) subsidizing day care. Why? What good would it do? Wouldn't that just result in an even higher unemployment rate?

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                Jorgen Andersson
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                It's about the votes. And remember, it doesn't need to make sense to you, but it probably makes sense to the ones that are affected.

                "When did ignorance become a point of view" - Dilbert

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                • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff
                  1. Provide employment for Day Care Workers - good thing. 2) Get more short skirts into offices - good thing. 3) Um...

                  Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together.

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                  OriginalGriff wrote:

                  1. Get more short skirts into offices - good thing.

                  As politically incorrect as it is... I agree...

                  I wasn't, now I am, then I won't be anymore.

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                    CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                    women must work to make ends meat

                    Why? Are they going to be sausage makers?

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                    Please oh Please take my five... :laugh:

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                    • C CaptainSeeSharp

                      That is what you tell yourself to make you feel safer, but in reality the government controls just about every part of your life. They aren't stupid, If they were stupid they wouldn't be in power.

                      Invisible Empire: A New World Order Defined (High Quality 2:14:01)[^] Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] The Truthbox[^]

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                      You don't need to be intelligent to be a lying, manipulative weasel. In fact from what I've seen it helps if you aren't. Of course thanks to Mr. Dunning and Mr. Kruger we have an explanation as to why they may think they are, but typically they aren't. Take Palin for example. It doesn't take a rocket scientist(or even an English major) to tell you that comparing yourself to Shakespeare because you make up words is a remarkably bad idea, but she did.

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                      • J Jorgen Andersson

                        It's about the votes. And remember, it doesn't need to make sense to you, but it probably makes sense to the ones that are affected.

                        "When did ignorance become a point of view" - Dilbert

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                        Ok I guess that makes sense

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                          You don't need to be intelligent to be a lying, manipulative weasel. In fact from what I've seen it helps if you aren't. Of course thanks to Mr. Dunning and Mr. Kruger we have an explanation as to why they may think they are, but typically they aren't. Take Palin for example. It doesn't take a rocket scientist(or even an English major) to tell you that comparing yourself to Shakespeare because you make up words is a remarkably bad idea, but she did.

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                          Believe me, they are not stupid. They know how to get elected, they know what they are doing.

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                          • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                            CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                            If they were stupid they wouldn't be in power

                            Have you ever met a politician? Getting the shoes on the right feet is a major challenge!

                            Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together.

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                            They know what they are doing, once they get into office they pass the laws that the really smart people want them to pass, politicians are are actors.

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                            • L Lost User

                              Given that 30% of my council tax goes to pensions...

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                              You will be expecting that to go up then? What with all those people no longer paying council tax. They wont be eligible for it on the dole. All the people being laid off from private enterprise no longer paying council tax as they've been laid off because not as many people are buying their products/paying for their services. Oh and just because the government have cut the amount of money they pay to local councils and the money has to come from somewhere.

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                              • C CaptainSeeSharp

                                They know what they are doing, once they get into office they pass the laws that the really smart people want them to pass, politicians are are actors.

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                                CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                                politicians are are actors

                                Precisely, and are only as intelligent as their script.

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                                • C CaptainSeeSharp

                                  They know what they are doing, once they get into office they pass the laws that the really smart people want them to pass, politicians are are actors.

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                                  CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                                  they pass the laws that the really smart people want them to pass

                                  Have they passed the laws you want them to pass? No, therefore you are not a really smart person, therefore you are most likely incorrect!

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                                    CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                                    they pass the laws that the really smart people want them to pass

                                    Have they passed the laws you want them to pass? No, therefore you are not a really smart person, therefore you are most likely incorrect!

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                                    It is time for your shearing.

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                                    • C CaptainSeeSharp

                                      They know what they are doing, once they get into office they pass the laws that the really smart people want them to pass, politicians are are actors.

                                      Invisible Empire: A New World Order Defined (High Quality 2:14:01)[^] Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] The Truthbox[^]

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                                      OriginalGriff
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                                      So now you are saying that the government isn't in charge, they are just obeying the instructions of the "really smart" people?

                                      Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together.

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                                      • C CaptainSeeSharp

                                        They know what they are doing, once they get into office they pass the laws that the really smart people want them to pass, politicians are are actors.

                                        Invisible Empire: A New World Order Defined (High Quality 2:14:01)[^] Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] The Truthbox[^]

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                                        CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                                        they pass the laws that the really smart people want them to pass

                                        Wouldn't that generally be considered a good thing? Or would you prefer them to pass laws that the really dumb people want them to pass?

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                                        • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                          They are in the UK - for example part-timers are not eligible for overtime pay until they have worked the same number of hours as a full time employee would have. So you can employ two PT to cover the same hours (say 15 + 15) as a FT worker (say 30), but if they do extra hours, each PT can get basic wage until they have worked 30 hours - lots cheaper for the employer. There are others differences but they basically all add up to benefits for the company, not the worker.

                                          Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together.

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                                          Yeah, I am from the UK, what you say is true. I wasnt sure if its the same in Holland though, but if so its a possible cause. There are some big difference between the UK and the continent with this kind of thing.

                                          Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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