New bludgeon for humanity, Now GW is untrendy, its BIODIVERSITY!
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We all knew that Ocean Acidificaiton was a backup plan in case GW/CC/GCD failed to impress us sufficiently to act, which is the case, but clearly OA (lets invent a TLA eh?) wasnt quite beefy enough. So, getting together they cranked up some computer models that promised us species disapearing at 10,000 times the normal rate while the UN quietly set in motion the new cause: BIODIVERSITY! Delegates from nearly 200 countries are being asked to agree to new 2020 targets after governments largely failed to meet a 2010 target of achieving a significant reduction in biological diversity losses, a goal set at the last biodiversity conference in 2002.[^] So, not only do we not get tha chance to take the fraudsters behind GW/CC/GCD to task, but they create new schemes to shaft us! Holy crap. When are we going to put an end to this lunacy?
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
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We all knew that Ocean Acidificaiton was a backup plan in case GW/CC/GCD failed to impress us sufficiently to act, which is the case, but clearly OA (lets invent a TLA eh?) wasnt quite beefy enough. So, getting together they cranked up some computer models that promised us species disapearing at 10,000 times the normal rate while the UN quietly set in motion the new cause: BIODIVERSITY! Delegates from nearly 200 countries are being asked to agree to new 2020 targets after governments largely failed to meet a 2010 target of achieving a significant reduction in biological diversity losses, a goal set at the last biodiversity conference in 2002.[^] So, not only do we not get tha chance to take the fraudsters behind GW/CC/GCD to task, but they create new schemes to shaft us! Holy crap. When are we going to put an end to this lunacy?
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
ah the same old crap just a new buzzword then?
As barmey as a sack of badgers Dude, if I knew what I was doing in life, I'd be rich, retired, dating a supermodel and laughing at the rest of you from the sidelines.
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ah the same old crap just a new buzzword then?
As barmey as a sack of badgers Dude, if I knew what I was doing in life, I'd be rich, retired, dating a supermodel and laughing at the rest of you from the sidelines.
And of course it will be mans consumption/industrial activity/population causing it. Just lilke the last scare. I tell you its the new Abrahamic religion. As with the others, its a religion of guilt, attonement requires sacrifice, limitation, humility.
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
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We all knew that Ocean Acidificaiton was a backup plan in case GW/CC/GCD failed to impress us sufficiently to act, which is the case, but clearly OA (lets invent a TLA eh?) wasnt quite beefy enough. So, getting together they cranked up some computer models that promised us species disapearing at 10,000 times the normal rate while the UN quietly set in motion the new cause: BIODIVERSITY! Delegates from nearly 200 countries are being asked to agree to new 2020 targets after governments largely failed to meet a 2010 target of achieving a significant reduction in biological diversity losses, a goal set at the last biodiversity conference in 2002.[^] So, not only do we not get tha chance to take the fraudsters behind GW/CC/GCD to task, but they create new schemes to shaft us! Holy crap. When are we going to put an end to this lunacy?
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
It's not new, in fact this was covered far better than anything on global warming was back when I was in school. Simply put, if a lot of shit dies, the environment is going to change. Which is pretty much stating the obvious, which has never stopped some people from claiming it's not true.
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It's not new, in fact this was covered far better than anything on global warming was back when I was in school. Simply put, if a lot of shit dies, the environment is going to change. Which is pretty much stating the obvious, which has never stopped some people from claiming it's not true.
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Why not read the link then come back to me.
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
Let's see, typical language intended to railroad you to their point, complete misuse of technocrat(at least as defined in the us, haven't seen it used elsewhere), and little more than dick waving. Oh wow, I'm totally convinced now. Biodiversity must be a huge problem, we should eliminate it! You may note, I was originally referring to what would cause the problem and what the results would be, two things completely left out of your article, which seems to focus entirely on the fact that it involves the UN and Science and thus must be wrong. I've said nothing about if it's happening, because I'm not keeping tabs on any Costa Rican beetle species and don't really know if any have been wiped out recently.
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Let's see, typical language intended to railroad you to their point, complete misuse of technocrat(at least as defined in the us, haven't seen it used elsewhere), and little more than dick waving. Oh wow, I'm totally convinced now. Biodiversity must be a huge problem, we should eliminate it! You may note, I was originally referring to what would cause the problem and what the results would be, two things completely left out of your article, which seems to focus entirely on the fact that it involves the UN and Science and thus must be wrong. I've said nothing about if it's happening, because I'm not keeping tabs on any Costa Rican beetle species and don't really know if any have been wiped out recently.
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Did you know mankind has created more species than he has directly wiped out?
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
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How many species of plant and animal has man created through selective breeding in the last 10000 years?
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
personally I doubt we have created many species just till this day we are discovering new breeds as well as killing breeds of animals and plants off.
As barmey as a sack of badgers Dude, if I knew what I was doing in life, I'd be rich, retired, dating a supermodel and laughing at the rest of you from the sidelines.
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How many species of plant and animal has man created through selective breeding in the last 10000 years?
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
Provide a few names of species created by man as distinct from breeds.
Regards David R --------------------------------------------------------------- "Every program eventually becomes rococo, and then rubble." - Alan Perlis The only valid measurement of code quality: WTFs/minute.
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personally I doubt we have created many species just till this day we are discovering new breeds as well as killing breeds of animals and plants off.
As barmey as a sack of badgers Dude, if I knew what I was doing in life, I'd be rich, retired, dating a supermodel and laughing at the rest of you from the sidelines.
Simon_Whale wrote:
as well as killing breeds of animals and plants off.
Thats why I stated directly. Various kinds of moose/deer, wolves, bears, marsupials and birds have been intentionally eradicated by man. I cant think of one plant man has intentionally wiped out. Compare that to the number of species of plants and animals man has created through agriculture over 10000 years. Dogs, cats, for example. All created by man. Yes we have manipulated the world for our benefit, but we havent decreased biodiversity intentionally. Yes we kiled off some animals by introducing others that competed with them, but that was by mistake, and I can only think of a few.
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
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We all knew that Ocean Acidificaiton was a backup plan in case GW/CC/GCD failed to impress us sufficiently to act, which is the case, but clearly OA (lets invent a TLA eh?) wasnt quite beefy enough. So, getting together they cranked up some computer models that promised us species disapearing at 10,000 times the normal rate while the UN quietly set in motion the new cause: BIODIVERSITY! Delegates from nearly 200 countries are being asked to agree to new 2020 targets after governments largely failed to meet a 2010 target of achieving a significant reduction in biological diversity losses, a goal set at the last biodiversity conference in 2002.[^] So, not only do we not get tha chance to take the fraudsters behind GW/CC/GCD to task, but they create new schemes to shaft us! Holy crap. When are we going to put an end to this lunacy?
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
fat_boy wrote:
Holy crap. When are we going to put an end to this lunacy?
When pigs fly and you stop posting this crap here.
That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_
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Simon_Whale wrote:
as well as killing breeds of animals and plants off.
Thats why I stated directly. Various kinds of moose/deer, wolves, bears, marsupials and birds have been intentionally eradicated by man. I cant think of one plant man has intentionally wiped out. Compare that to the number of species of plants and animals man has created through agriculture over 10000 years. Dogs, cats, for example. All created by man. Yes we have manipulated the world for our benefit, but we havent decreased biodiversity intentionally. Yes we kiled off some animals by introducing others that competed with them, but that was by mistake, and I can only think of a few.
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
fat_boy wrote:
Yes we kiled off some animals by introducing others that competed with them, but that was by mistake
Well, it must be ok then, since it was just an accident. Tony Hayward, is that you? :laugh:
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
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fat_boy wrote:
Yes we kiled off some animals by introducing others that competed with them, but that was by mistake
Well, it must be ok then, since it was just an accident. Tony Hayward, is that you? :laugh:
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
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How many species of plant and animal has man created through selective breeding in the last 10000 years?
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
Selective breeding of anaimals for agriculture is essentially husbandry and doesn't fall into the category of species creation. A Species can be defined as groups of actually or potentially interbreeding organisms that are reproductively isolated from other such groups. In other words, organisms are considered to belong to the same species if they can potentially reproduce with each other and have offspring that are healthy and fertile. Otherwise, they are considered to belong to different species. Hence breeds of domestic animals such as dogs, cats and cattle are one species within their own groups.... In general I've kept out of this argument as its almost religious in its fervour, however over the last 15 years as a diver I have see a marked alteration of what we can expect to see in and around the UK. We now see Sun Fish and Grey Triggers which can be classed as more tropical than not, Basking Sharks have moved further north. In more tropical climes I've seen a marked drop in both coral and reef fish in the Red Sea, and this is a region I visit anually. Now I'm not about to say what is causing this as there are several contributary factors, but we are loosing Biodiversity at quite a rapid rate.
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Is it just you or is it all Americans who debate like 12 year old?
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
Obviously you're not a South Park fan. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coon_2:_Hindsight[^]
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
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Obviously you're not a South Park fan. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coon_2:_Hindsight[^]
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels) -
We all knew that Ocean Acidificaiton was a backup plan in case GW/CC/GCD failed to impress us sufficiently to act, which is the case, but clearly OA (lets invent a TLA eh?) wasnt quite beefy enough. So, getting together they cranked up some computer models that promised us species disapearing at 10,000 times the normal rate while the UN quietly set in motion the new cause: BIODIVERSITY! Delegates from nearly 200 countries are being asked to agree to new 2020 targets after governments largely failed to meet a 2010 target of achieving a significant reduction in biological diversity losses, a goal set at the last biodiversity conference in 2002.[^] So, not only do we not get tha chance to take the fraudsters behind GW/CC/GCD to task, but they create new schemes to shaft us! Holy crap. When are we going to put an end to this lunacy?
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
Save me, Fat_Boy, Save me! Only you have the power to save us all. Thanks all the gods you've decided to spend your time here educating all us poor, poor deluded souls. Only you have the power and the knowledge. SAVE ME, FB!!!! SAVE ME!!!!
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Is it just you or is it all Americans who debate like 12 year old?
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
Oh, jesus, I can't pass that one up.... Hey, shithead!! Let's take a poll and find out who enjoys greater respect here, you or Ian. For intellect, for spelling, anything at all. I'll vote for Ian. How many do you think you'll get? Besides your own, that is. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: (Had to touch up the grammar - I was laughing too hard to get it right the first time.)
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