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    Ian Shlasko
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    CaptainSeeSharp: The cold war is over. We're not fighting communism anymore, so you can get off the "Capitalism will solve all of life's problems" bandwagon, and accept that improving society sometimes involves sharing the wealth. The vast majority of Muslims are not terrorists. Al Qaeda is a terrorist group, but using that to imply that all Muslims want to blow things up, is just like using the KKK to imply that all white people want to burn crosses and lynch blacks, or using Glenn Beck to imply that all Americans are loud-mouthed, racist #%(&*#s. President Obama is not the anti-christ. He is not a terrorist, and he is not trying to turn you into a little brainwashed zombie (Though it could be argued that you already are one). He was born in Hawaii, and he's just another politician, influenced by special interest groups and primarily focused on making everyone like him enough that they'll hire him again in 2012. You're free to like or dislike him as you so choose, and so are the rest of us. fat_boy: Global warming is real. It is influenced by human activity to some degree, and CO2 is just one of the many factors. Nearly the entire scientific community agrees on this. Pointing out a broken thermometer, or whining about someone's bad choice of words in an e-mail does not change this. The only questions are the magnitude of the change and of our influence, and what we should do about it. In general, here are a few thoughts for both of you (And other aspiring trolls) to consider... 1) Logical fallacies and other mud-slinging debate tactics may work in real-time, but they are more obvious when your audience has time to read and re-read your statements before responding. If you find that part of your argument has been defeated, admit it and move on. People will respect you more for it, and you will gain credibility. 2) Insulting people and calling them "cultists" or "obamanoids" or the usual four-letter words, is not a good way to bring them to your cause. In fact, it will probably do the opposite. 3) If you want to argue a position, first make sure you actually understand that position. This has been a public service announcement. We now return you to your regularly-scheduled trolling. End of line.

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      CaptainSeeSharp: The cold war is over. We're not fighting communism anymore, so you can get off the "Capitalism will solve all of life's problems" bandwagon, and accept that improving society sometimes involves sharing the wealth. The vast majority of Muslims are not terrorists. Al Qaeda is a terrorist group, but using that to imply that all Muslims want to blow things up, is just like using the KKK to imply that all white people want to burn crosses and lynch blacks, or using Glenn Beck to imply that all Americans are loud-mouthed, racist #%(&*#s. President Obama is not the anti-christ. He is not a terrorist, and he is not trying to turn you into a little brainwashed zombie (Though it could be argued that you already are one). He was born in Hawaii, and he's just another politician, influenced by special interest groups and primarily focused on making everyone like him enough that they'll hire him again in 2012. You're free to like or dislike him as you so choose, and so are the rest of us. fat_boy: Global warming is real. It is influenced by human activity to some degree, and CO2 is just one of the many factors. Nearly the entire scientific community agrees on this. Pointing out a broken thermometer, or whining about someone's bad choice of words in an e-mail does not change this. The only questions are the magnitude of the change and of our influence, and what we should do about it. In general, here are a few thoughts for both of you (And other aspiring trolls) to consider... 1) Logical fallacies and other mud-slinging debate tactics may work in real-time, but they are more obvious when your audience has time to read and re-read your statements before responding. If you find that part of your argument has been defeated, admit it and move on. People will respect you more for it, and you will gain credibility. 2) Insulting people and calling them "cultists" or "obamanoids" or the usual four-letter words, is not a good way to bring them to your cause. In fact, it will probably do the opposite. 3) If you want to argue a position, first make sure you actually understand that position. This has been a public service announcement. We now return you to your regularly-scheduled trolling. End of line.

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      Uh, thanks. I think. Do you think your post is going to change the behaviour of either of them? We can only hope, I guess. :)

      Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar] In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is. [Yogi Berra]

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        Uh, thanks. I think. Do you think your post is going to change the behaviour of either of them? We can only hope, I guess. :)

        Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar] In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is. [Yogi Berra]

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        Not a chance, but it needed to be said.

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          CaptainSeeSharp: The cold war is over. We're not fighting communism anymore, so you can get off the "Capitalism will solve all of life's problems" bandwagon, and accept that improving society sometimes involves sharing the wealth. The vast majority of Muslims are not terrorists. Al Qaeda is a terrorist group, but using that to imply that all Muslims want to blow things up, is just like using the KKK to imply that all white people want to burn crosses and lynch blacks, or using Glenn Beck to imply that all Americans are loud-mouthed, racist #%(&*#s. President Obama is not the anti-christ. He is not a terrorist, and he is not trying to turn you into a little brainwashed zombie (Though it could be argued that you already are one). He was born in Hawaii, and he's just another politician, influenced by special interest groups and primarily focused on making everyone like him enough that they'll hire him again in 2012. You're free to like or dislike him as you so choose, and so are the rest of us. fat_boy: Global warming is real. It is influenced by human activity to some degree, and CO2 is just one of the many factors. Nearly the entire scientific community agrees on this. Pointing out a broken thermometer, or whining about someone's bad choice of words in an e-mail does not change this. The only questions are the magnitude of the change and of our influence, and what we should do about it. In general, here are a few thoughts for both of you (And other aspiring trolls) to consider... 1) Logical fallacies and other mud-slinging debate tactics may work in real-time, but they are more obvious when your audience has time to read and re-read your statements before responding. If you find that part of your argument has been defeated, admit it and move on. People will respect you more for it, and you will gain credibility. 2) Insulting people and calling them "cultists" or "obamanoids" or the usual four-letter words, is not a good way to bring them to your cause. In fact, it will probably do the opposite. 3) If you want to argue a position, first make sure you actually understand that position. This has been a public service announcement. We now return you to your regularly-scheduled trolling. End of line.

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          Sheer class! :thumbsup:

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            CaptainSeeSharp: The cold war is over. We're not fighting communism anymore, so you can get off the "Capitalism will solve all of life's problems" bandwagon, and accept that improving society sometimes involves sharing the wealth. The vast majority of Muslims are not terrorists. Al Qaeda is a terrorist group, but using that to imply that all Muslims want to blow things up, is just like using the KKK to imply that all white people want to burn crosses and lynch blacks, or using Glenn Beck to imply that all Americans are loud-mouthed, racist #%(&*#s. President Obama is not the anti-christ. He is not a terrorist, and he is not trying to turn you into a little brainwashed zombie (Though it could be argued that you already are one). He was born in Hawaii, and he's just another politician, influenced by special interest groups and primarily focused on making everyone like him enough that they'll hire him again in 2012. You're free to like or dislike him as you so choose, and so are the rest of us. fat_boy: Global warming is real. It is influenced by human activity to some degree, and CO2 is just one of the many factors. Nearly the entire scientific community agrees on this. Pointing out a broken thermometer, or whining about someone's bad choice of words in an e-mail does not change this. The only questions are the magnitude of the change and of our influence, and what we should do about it. In general, here are a few thoughts for both of you (And other aspiring trolls) to consider... 1) Logical fallacies and other mud-slinging debate tactics may work in real-time, but they are more obvious when your audience has time to read and re-read your statements before responding. If you find that part of your argument has been defeated, admit it and move on. People will respect you more for it, and you will gain credibility. 2) Insulting people and calling them "cultists" or "obamanoids" or the usual four-letter words, is not a good way to bring them to your cause. In fact, it will probably do the opposite. 3) If you want to argue a position, first make sure you actually understand that position. This has been a public service announcement. We now return you to your regularly-scheduled trolling. End of line.

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            So I guess I'm just an aspiring troll. Well I thought my most recent attempt was a wonderful success, especially since it wasn't boring (unlike facebookfat_boy and CSS)

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              So I guess I'm just an aspiring troll. Well I thought my most recent attempt was a wonderful success, especially since it wasn't boring (unlike facebookfat_boy and CSS)

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              harold aptroot wrote:

              So I guess I'm just an aspiring troll.

              Keep your eyes on the prize, my boy, and someday... :laugh: :-D

              L u n a t i c F r i n g e

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                CaptainSeeSharp: The cold war is over. We're not fighting communism anymore, so you can get off the "Capitalism will solve all of life's problems" bandwagon, and accept that improving society sometimes involves sharing the wealth. The vast majority of Muslims are not terrorists. Al Qaeda is a terrorist group, but using that to imply that all Muslims want to blow things up, is just like using the KKK to imply that all white people want to burn crosses and lynch blacks, or using Glenn Beck to imply that all Americans are loud-mouthed, racist #%(&*#s. President Obama is not the anti-christ. He is not a terrorist, and he is not trying to turn you into a little brainwashed zombie (Though it could be argued that you already are one). He was born in Hawaii, and he's just another politician, influenced by special interest groups and primarily focused on making everyone like him enough that they'll hire him again in 2012. You're free to like or dislike him as you so choose, and so are the rest of us. fat_boy: Global warming is real. It is influenced by human activity to some degree, and CO2 is just one of the many factors. Nearly the entire scientific community agrees on this. Pointing out a broken thermometer, or whining about someone's bad choice of words in an e-mail does not change this. The only questions are the magnitude of the change and of our influence, and what we should do about it. In general, here are a few thoughts for both of you (And other aspiring trolls) to consider... 1) Logical fallacies and other mud-slinging debate tactics may work in real-time, but they are more obvious when your audience has time to read and re-read your statements before responding. If you find that part of your argument has been defeated, admit it and move on. People will respect you more for it, and you will gain credibility. 2) Insulting people and calling them "cultists" or "obamanoids" or the usual four-letter words, is not a good way to bring them to your cause. In fact, it will probably do the opposite. 3) If you want to argue a position, first make sure you actually understand that position. This has been a public service announcement. We now return you to your regularly-scheduled trolling. End of line.

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                In the Lounge this would have (I hope) garnered many :thumbsup: votes. It's so nice to see a rational and reasoned argument occasionally.

                Just say 'NO' to evaluated arguments for diadic functions! Ash

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                  In the Lounge this would have (I hope) garnered many :thumbsup: votes. It's so nice to see a rational and reasoned argument occasionally.

                  Just say 'NO' to evaluated arguments for diadic functions! Ash

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                  Enjoy it while it lasts... Probably in the next few hours, fat_boy will reply with a long post containing cherry-picked "facts" (Opinions of people he agrees with) to turn this thread into an AGW debate, and CSS will try to break his record for "Most insults in a single post" in his own reply.

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                    CaptainSeeSharp: The cold war is over. We're not fighting communism anymore, so you can get off the "Capitalism will solve all of life's problems" bandwagon, and accept that improving society sometimes involves sharing the wealth. The vast majority of Muslims are not terrorists. Al Qaeda is a terrorist group, but using that to imply that all Muslims want to blow things up, is just like using the KKK to imply that all white people want to burn crosses and lynch blacks, or using Glenn Beck to imply that all Americans are loud-mouthed, racist #%(&*#s. President Obama is not the anti-christ. He is not a terrorist, and he is not trying to turn you into a little brainwashed zombie (Though it could be argued that you already are one). He was born in Hawaii, and he's just another politician, influenced by special interest groups and primarily focused on making everyone like him enough that they'll hire him again in 2012. You're free to like or dislike him as you so choose, and so are the rest of us. fat_boy: Global warming is real. It is influenced by human activity to some degree, and CO2 is just one of the many factors. Nearly the entire scientific community agrees on this. Pointing out a broken thermometer, or whining about someone's bad choice of words in an e-mail does not change this. The only questions are the magnitude of the change and of our influence, and what we should do about it. In general, here are a few thoughts for both of you (And other aspiring trolls) to consider... 1) Logical fallacies and other mud-slinging debate tactics may work in real-time, but they are more obvious when your audience has time to read and re-read your statements before responding. If you find that part of your argument has been defeated, admit it and move on. People will respect you more for it, and you will gain credibility. 2) Insulting people and calling them "cultists" or "obamanoids" or the usual four-letter words, is not a good way to bring them to your cause. In fact, it will probably do the opposite. 3) If you want to argue a position, first make sure you actually understand that position. This has been a public service announcement. We now return you to your regularly-scheduled trolling. End of line.

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                    Much Sense do you speak, but calling someone a 'Brain Dead, shit eating, moronic bastard' is sometimes the only way to get it out of your system :) 0I hate the word 'C**t' but that's sometimes the best thing to shout when you are behind the steering wheel!

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                      CaptainSeeSharp: The cold war is over. We're not fighting communism anymore, so you can get off the "Capitalism will solve all of life's problems" bandwagon, and accept that improving society sometimes involves sharing the wealth. The vast majority of Muslims are not terrorists. Al Qaeda is a terrorist group, but using that to imply that all Muslims want to blow things up, is just like using the KKK to imply that all white people want to burn crosses and lynch blacks, or using Glenn Beck to imply that all Americans are loud-mouthed, racist #%(&*#s. President Obama is not the anti-christ. He is not a terrorist, and he is not trying to turn you into a little brainwashed zombie (Though it could be argued that you already are one). He was born in Hawaii, and he's just another politician, influenced by special interest groups and primarily focused on making everyone like him enough that they'll hire him again in 2012. You're free to like or dislike him as you so choose, and so are the rest of us. fat_boy: Global warming is real. It is influenced by human activity to some degree, and CO2 is just one of the many factors. Nearly the entire scientific community agrees on this. Pointing out a broken thermometer, or whining about someone's bad choice of words in an e-mail does not change this. The only questions are the magnitude of the change and of our influence, and what we should do about it. In general, here are a few thoughts for both of you (And other aspiring trolls) to consider... 1) Logical fallacies and other mud-slinging debate tactics may work in real-time, but they are more obvious when your audience has time to read and re-read your statements before responding. If you find that part of your argument has been defeated, admit it and move on. People will respect you more for it, and you will gain credibility. 2) Insulting people and calling them "cultists" or "obamanoids" or the usual four-letter words, is not a good way to bring them to your cause. In fact, it will probably do the opposite. 3) If you want to argue a position, first make sure you actually understand that position. This has been a public service announcement. We now return you to your regularly-scheduled trolling. End of line.

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                      Nice try, won't happen. ;P

                      That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_

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                      • I Ian Shlasko

                        CaptainSeeSharp: The cold war is over. We're not fighting communism anymore, so you can get off the "Capitalism will solve all of life's problems" bandwagon, and accept that improving society sometimes involves sharing the wealth. The vast majority of Muslims are not terrorists. Al Qaeda is a terrorist group, but using that to imply that all Muslims want to blow things up, is just like using the KKK to imply that all white people want to burn crosses and lynch blacks, or using Glenn Beck to imply that all Americans are loud-mouthed, racist #%(&*#s. President Obama is not the anti-christ. He is not a terrorist, and he is not trying to turn you into a little brainwashed zombie (Though it could be argued that you already are one). He was born in Hawaii, and he's just another politician, influenced by special interest groups and primarily focused on making everyone like him enough that they'll hire him again in 2012. You're free to like or dislike him as you so choose, and so are the rest of us. fat_boy: Global warming is real. It is influenced by human activity to some degree, and CO2 is just one of the many factors. Nearly the entire scientific community agrees on this. Pointing out a broken thermometer, or whining about someone's bad choice of words in an e-mail does not change this. The only questions are the magnitude of the change and of our influence, and what we should do about it. In general, here are a few thoughts for both of you (And other aspiring trolls) to consider... 1) Logical fallacies and other mud-slinging debate tactics may work in real-time, but they are more obvious when your audience has time to read and re-read your statements before responding. If you find that part of your argument has been defeated, admit it and move on. People will respect you more for it, and you will gain credibility. 2) Insulting people and calling them "cultists" or "obamanoids" or the usual four-letter words, is not a good way to bring them to your cause. In fact, it will probably do the opposite. 3) If you want to argue a position, first make sure you actually understand that position. This has been a public service announcement. We now return you to your regularly-scheduled trolling. End of line.

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                        Ian Shlasko wrote:

                        Global warming is real.

                        For the time being, though it has been absent for ten years.

                        Ian Shlasko wrote:

                        It is influenced by human activity to some degree

                        1`C per doubling if you want to know.

                        Ian Shlasko wrote:

                        CO2 is just one of the many factors

                        Most of which have a "very low level of scientific understanding" to quote the IPCC.

                        Ian Shlasko wrote:

                        Nearly the entire scientific community agrees on this

                        As do I.

                        Ian Shlasko wrote:

                        The only questions are the magnitude of the change and of our influence, and what we should do about it.

                        Oh, so you ARE a sceptic then! ;)

                        Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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                          Ian Shlasko wrote:

                          Global warming is real.

                          For the time being, though it has been absent for ten years.

                          Ian Shlasko wrote:

                          It is influenced by human activity to some degree

                          1`C per doubling if you want to know.

                          Ian Shlasko wrote:

                          CO2 is just one of the many factors

                          Most of which have a "very low level of scientific understanding" to quote the IPCC.

                          Ian Shlasko wrote:

                          Nearly the entire scientific community agrees on this

                          As do I.

                          Ian Shlasko wrote:

                          The only questions are the magnitude of the change and of our influence, and what we should do about it.

                          Oh, so you ARE a sceptic then! ;)

                          Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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                          I knew it[^]... Now for the next part of my prediction... As soon as he logs on...

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                            I knew it[^]... Now for the next part of my prediction... As soon as he logs on...

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                            Since I agreed with pretty much everything you wrote how can you respond so negatively?

                            Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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                              Since I agreed with pretty much everything you wrote how can you respond so negatively?

                              Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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                              Shhh... You fulfilled your part. Now it's CSS's turn to curse me out for speaking badly of his holy conspiracies. Actually, he'll probably avoid this thread now that he's been called out... That's his style.

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                                Shhh... You fulfilled your part. Now it's CSS's turn to curse me out for speaking badly of his holy conspiracies. Actually, he'll probably avoid this thread now that he's been called out... That's his style.

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                                I still want know how you can respond negatively when I agreed pretty much to everything you stated about CO2.

                                Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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                                  I still want know how you can respond negatively when I agreed pretty much to everything you stated about CO2.

                                  Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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                                  You're trying to turn this into another AGW debate, just as I predicted you would, and I'm not falling for it.

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                                    Much Sense do you speak, but calling someone a 'Brain Dead, shit eating, moronic bastard' is sometimes the only way to get it out of your system :) 0I hate the word 'C**t' but that's sometimes the best thing to shout when you are behind the steering wheel!

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                                    You been ot dat zider!


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                                      You're trying to turn this into another AGW debate, just as I predicted you would, and I'm not falling for it.

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                                      No, I am trying to understand why you recat negatively when someone agrees with you.

                                      Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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                                        No, I am trying to understand why you recat negatively when someone agrees with you.

                                        Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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                                        I don't care if you're agreeing or disagreeing. That's completely irrelevant, because I'm not letting you pull me into an AGW debate.

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                                          I don't care if you're agreeing or disagreeing. That's completely irrelevant, because I'm not letting you pull me into an AGW debate.

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                                          I agree, its a subject not worthy of debate, only ridicule. :laugh:

                                          Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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