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    Vatican ordered coverup of child abuse[^]. How can anyone do this and live with themselves?

    Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^]

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      Vatican ordered coverup of child abuse[^]. How can anyone do this and live with themselves?

      Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^]

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      fjdiewornncalwe
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      [Disclaimer] This is just a thought on the subject, not a definitive statement based on research of any kind.... [\Disclaimer] Could it be that those who found themselves guilty of the same thoughts and/or actions and are now in authority protect those underneath them (pun not intended) who fall victim to the same? I agree with you, though. There can be nothing as tragic as this. And I mean, Nothing!!!

      I wasn't, now I am, then I won't be anymore.

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        Vatican ordered coverup of child abuse[^]. How can anyone do this and live with themselves?

        Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^]

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        Manfred Rudolf Bihy
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        Truth is they don't have to live with themselves, they live with one another. Hermits with skeletons like that in the closet are less likely to survive, if they have a conscience that is.

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          [Disclaimer] This is just a thought on the subject, not a definitive statement based on research of any kind.... [\Disclaimer] Could it be that those who found themselves guilty of the same thoughts and/or actions and are now in authority protect those underneath them (pun not intended) who fall victim to the same? I agree with you, though. There can be nothing as tragic as this. And I mean, Nothing!!!

          I wasn't, now I am, then I won't be anymore.

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          Manfred Rudolf Bihy
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          Marcus Kramer wrote:

          Could it be that those who found themselves guilty of the same thoughts and/or actions and are now in authority protect those underneath them (pun not intended) who fall victim to the same?

          A very typical pattern in any kind of abuse as regrettable as it is. :sigh:

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            Vatican ordered coverup of child abuse[^]. How can anyone do this and live with themselves?

            Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^]

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            You do realise that the age of consent in the Vatican is 12 years.

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              You do realise that the age of consent in the Vatican is 12 years.

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              If you got that from QI then it it wrong. If you got it from somewhere else then it is also wrong.

              Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends.

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                You do realise that the age of consent in the Vatican is 12 years.

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                Manfred Rudolf Bihy
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                Actually my preferrd ages are 18, 15 and 12, but then again I'm talking about whiskey. :-D

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                  You do realise that the age of consent in the Vatican is 12 years.

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                  fjdiewornncalwe
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                  The truly sad part is that consent isn't usually a consideration.

                  I wasn't, now I am, then I won't be anymore.

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                    Actually my preferrd ages are 18, 15 and 12, but then again I'm talking about whiskey. :-D

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                    fjdiewornncalwe
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                    Now that I can agree with.

                    I wasn't, now I am, then I won't be anymore.

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                      Now that I can agree with.

                      I wasn't, now I am, then I won't be anymore.

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                      Manfred Rudolf Bihy
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                      My latest acquisition was a Highland Park 15 years old (18 was out of stock) and I was very surprised how close it came the older (18 years) one! My favorites: Talikser 18, 10 (18 years old no longer available in Germany. I must have been to efficient :)) Highland Park 18, 15 Talisker 57° Glenmorangie Original Laphroaig 10 The Glenlivet 18, 12 Bruichladdich Water Glenfiddich 18

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                        If you got that from QI then it it wrong. If you got it from somewhere else then it is also wrong.

                        Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends.

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                        Dalek Dave
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                        That bastard Fry lied to me! :)

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                          Vatican ordered coverup of child abuse[^]. How can anyone do this and live with themselves?

                          Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^]

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                          Trollslayer wrote:

                          How can anyone do this and live with themselves?

                          Ever heard of the inquisition?

                          "It is a remarkable fact that despite the worldwide expenditure of perhaps US$50 billion since 1990, and the efforts of tens of thousands of scientists worldwide, no human climate signal has yet been detected that is distinct from natural variation." Bob Carter, Research Professor of Geology, James Cook University, Townsville

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                            That bastard Fry lied to me! :)

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                            Yeah he does that a lot. I think a lot of what they do on the show is garnered from the internet by various researchers who tend not to check 'interesting' stories once they stumble across them.

                            Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends.

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                              Vatican ordered coverup of child abuse[^]. How can anyone do this and live with themselves?

                              Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^]

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                              David1987
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                              That's really easy. It happens almost automatically, just keep breathing and eating and sleeping etc. OTOH, they are really stupid. Did they really think no one would ever find out?

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                                Vatican ordered coverup of child abuse[^]. How can anyone do this and live with themselves?

                                Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^]

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                                R Giskard Reventlov
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                                Trollslayer wrote:

                                How can anyone do this and live with themselves?

                                They become a priest and absolve themselves.

                                "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me

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                                  Trollslayer wrote:

                                  How can anyone do this and live with themselves?

                                  They become a priest and absolve themselves.

                                  "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me

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                                  Manfred Rudolf Bihy
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                                  Ego te absolvo! Ego me absolvo Ego me Ego Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

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                                    Trollslayer wrote:

                                    How can anyone do this and live with themselves?

                                    They become a priest and absolve themselves.

                                    "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me

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                                    Good old Catholic faith eh? You can do whatever you like, and then go to confession! :) The Protestants take it all too seriously by comparison, far too seriously. How about Jews, do you have any kind of confession? Of course personally being a morraly corrupt pagan I just use the good old "dont be an asshole" rule of thumb. Gives me an idea, we could replace all religions, all mores, all religious constricts, the Ten Commandments even, with just one: "Don't be an asshole". If we all stuck to that the place would run alot smoother...

                                    "It is a remarkable fact that despite the worldwide expenditure of perhaps US$50 billion since 1990, and the efforts of tens of thousands of scientists worldwide, no human climate signal has yet been detected that is distinct from natural variation." Bob Carter, Research Professor of Geology, James Cook University, Townsville

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                                      Good old Catholic faith eh? You can do whatever you like, and then go to confession! :) The Protestants take it all too seriously by comparison, far too seriously. How about Jews, do you have any kind of confession? Of course personally being a morraly corrupt pagan I just use the good old "dont be an asshole" rule of thumb. Gives me an idea, we could replace all religions, all mores, all religious constricts, the Ten Commandments even, with just one: "Don't be an asshole". If we all stuck to that the place would run alot smoother...

                                      "It is a remarkable fact that despite the worldwide expenditure of perhaps US$50 billion since 1990, and the efforts of tens of thousands of scientists worldwide, no human climate signal has yet been detected that is distinct from natural variation." Bob Carter, Research Professor of Geology, James Cook University, Townsville

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                                      The Three Commandments... 1) Don't be an Arsehole. 2) Don't Piss People Off. 3) Dont' Shit on your own doorstep.

                                      ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC League Table Link CCC Link[^]

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                                        The Three Commandments... 1) Don't be an Arsehole. 2) Don't Piss People Off. 3) Dont' Shit on your own doorstep.

                                        ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC League Table Link CCC Link[^]

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                                        Disagree. Some people are assholes and need pissing off. Regularly. As for shit and doorsteps, why shit anywhere?

                                        "It is a remarkable fact that despite the worldwide expenditure of perhaps US$50 billion since 1990, and the efforts of tens of thousands of scientists worldwide, no human climate signal has yet been detected that is distinct from natural variation." Bob Carter, Research Professor of Geology, James Cook University, Townsville

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                                          Disagree. Some people are assholes and need pissing off. Regularly. As for shit and doorsteps, why shit anywhere?

                                          "It is a remarkable fact that despite the worldwide expenditure of perhaps US$50 billion since 1990, and the efforts of tens of thousands of scientists worldwide, no human climate signal has yet been detected that is distinct from natural variation." Bob Carter, Research Professor of Geology, James Cook University, Townsville

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                                          fjdiewornncalwe
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                                          Because the Back Room would be a really boring place if it wasn't for that.

                                          I wasn't, now I am, then I won't be anymore.

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