Why is Office XP so LAME!!!
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ARRGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I just upgraded from Office 2000 to XP. OMG. Can they make Outlook any slower? Have they heard of multithreading? Is it truly possible to make a spreadsheet program have a 150Mb footprint yet not allow it to open two files simulataneously that have the same name? Do they, to put it bluntly, use this stuff before they send it out? I went from Office 2000 on a PIII 450 with 128Mb with 500Mb free drive space. It was slow, but totally useable. I now have Office XP on a P4 1.8GHz, 512MB, and there's 50Gb of swap space if it wants it. XP is *slower* on my new machine than 2000 was on my old machine. <pant, pant, pant> ARRGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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ARRGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I just upgraded from Office 2000 to XP. OMG. Can they make Outlook any slower? Have they heard of multithreading? Is it truly possible to make a spreadsheet program have a 150Mb footprint yet not allow it to open two files simulataneously that have the same name? Do they, to put it bluntly, use this stuff before they send it out? I went from Office 2000 on a PIII 450 with 128Mb with 500Mb free drive space. It was slow, but totally useable. I now have Office XP on a P4 1.8GHz, 512MB, and there's 50Gb of swap space if it wants it. XP is *slower* on my new machine than 2000 was on my old machine. <pant, pant, pant> ARRGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
You should have typed this post in word, imported it to Excel, emailed it to yourself and then made a power point presentation of just to prove a point... not sure what point but it would have at least made a good story to tell your kids one day. FYI I realise Nelson Email Organizer[^] is extra dosh but is absolutely, 100% worth the money. Yes it runs on top of Outlook (Outlook is in the background, no taskbar or anything though) but it is damned fast, the search is incredible (if I had to name one feature of Office that is the worst, the Outlook mail search would be it) and it really helps in organising your email. The only time I use Outlook directly now is to access Public Folders, which hopefully NEO will support soon. p.s. Isn't your post breaking some kind of contract you might have signed with MS? ;) Thou shalt not diss our products, om.
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaColin Davies wrote: ...can you imagine a John Simmons stalker !
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You should have typed this post in word, imported it to Excel, emailed it to yourself and then made a power point presentation of just to prove a point... not sure what point but it would have at least made a good story to tell your kids one day. FYI I realise Nelson Email Organizer[^] is extra dosh but is absolutely, 100% worth the money. Yes it runs on top of Outlook (Outlook is in the background, no taskbar or anything though) but it is damned fast, the search is incredible (if I had to name one feature of Office that is the worst, the Outlook mail search would be it) and it really helps in organising your email. The only time I use Outlook directly now is to access Public Folders, which hopefully NEO will support soon. p.s. Isn't your post breaking some kind of contract you might have signed with MS? ;) Thou shalt not diss our products, om.
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaColin Davies wrote: ...can you imagine a John Simmons stalker !
Paul Watson wrote: Isn't your post breaking some kind of contract you might have signed with MS? Thou shalt not diss our products, om. No - I'm not allowed to dis MS products before they are released. Once they are released they are fair game. Did I mention how cool VS.NET 2003 was? :cool: cheers, Chris Maunder
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ARRGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I just upgraded from Office 2000 to XP. OMG. Can they make Outlook any slower? Have they heard of multithreading? Is it truly possible to make a spreadsheet program have a 150Mb footprint yet not allow it to open two files simulataneously that have the same name? Do they, to put it bluntly, use this stuff before they send it out? I went from Office 2000 on a PIII 450 with 128Mb with 500Mb free drive space. It was slow, but totally useable. I now have Office XP on a P4 1.8GHz, 512MB, and there's 50Gb of swap space if it wants it. XP is *slower* on my new machine than 2000 was on my old machine. <pant, pant, pant> ARRGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Outlook has always been the dog of Office for me, but I noticed quite a dramatic improvement in loading time and response time for operations like new messages, sending messages, etc, when I upgraded to Office XP. That said, it does seem to slow down considerably when my *.pst file gets over 500MB. Maybe it's time to clear out all your CP messages Chris? :suss: As to Excel, nowadays I only use it to keep shopping lists of CDs I've got to buy in the comming weeks. If it wasn't included with the rest of Office I wouldn't bother buying it at all. But you're right though, that could be very annoying - it must have a reason though, surely? What about the other programs? Well okay I mean Word, Access and Visio only, seeing as I have not installed PowerPoint since Office 97 and my Frontpage 2002 trial was uninstalled on day 29.5 of 30. Visio doesn't noticeably operate any faster (or slower), and I use that a lot, and Access is as quick as it ever was, but Word, well Word 2002 has slowed right down for me. The start up time from cold is about ten seconds (even Outlook will load and be responsive in about five). I can't see why, but it has always been slow on whichever machine I have ever used it on. :confused: :((
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ARRGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I just upgraded from Office 2000 to XP. OMG. Can they make Outlook any slower? Have they heard of multithreading? Is it truly possible to make a spreadsheet program have a 150Mb footprint yet not allow it to open two files simulataneously that have the same name? Do they, to put it bluntly, use this stuff before they send it out? I went from Office 2000 on a PIII 450 with 128Mb with 500Mb free drive space. It was slow, but totally useable. I now have Office XP on a P4 1.8GHz, 512MB, and there's 50Gb of swap space if it wants it. XP is *slower* on my new machine than 2000 was on my old machine. <pant, pant, pant> ARRGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
I knew there was a reason I moved to Win2k etc. instead of eXtra Problems.... OK, loads of them :suss: Would you like to meet my teddy bear ?
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ARRGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I just upgraded from Office 2000 to XP. OMG. Can they make Outlook any slower? Have they heard of multithreading? Is it truly possible to make a spreadsheet program have a 150Mb footprint yet not allow it to open two files simulataneously that have the same name? Do they, to put it bluntly, use this stuff before they send it out? I went from Office 2000 on a PIII 450 with 128Mb with 500Mb free drive space. It was slow, but totally useable. I now have Office XP on a P4 1.8GHz, 512MB, and there's 50Gb of swap space if it wants it. XP is *slower* on my new machine than 2000 was on my old machine. <pant, pant, pant> ARRGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Outlook XP is SLOW! Especially when sending email. That was my original complaint many moons ago. As for the speed issue, I've noticed that my PIII 650, 512MB PC100, 30GB HD, XP Pro computer at home is often FASTER at performing various tasks than my P4 2.2GHz, 512MB PC800 RAMBUS, 80GB HD, XP pro computer at work. My theory is that it has something to do with the P4's longer pipeline. -Sean ---- Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Albert Einstein. I saw a woman wearing a sweatshirt with 'Guess' on it. I said, "Thyroid problem?" -- Emo Philips. Love is two minutes, 52 seconds of squishing noises. -- Johnny Rotten.
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ARRGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I just upgraded from Office 2000 to XP. OMG. Can they make Outlook any slower? Have they heard of multithreading? Is it truly possible to make a spreadsheet program have a 150Mb footprint yet not allow it to open two files simulataneously that have the same name? Do they, to put it bluntly, use this stuff before they send it out? I went from Office 2000 on a PIII 450 with 128Mb with 500Mb free drive space. It was slow, but totally useable. I now have Office XP on a P4 1.8GHz, 512MB, and there's 50Gb of swap space if it wants it. XP is *slower* on my new machine than 2000 was on my old machine. <pant, pant, pant> ARRGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Weird.. Office XP runs flawlessly on my machine. Actually, I think Outlook XP is faster now than Outlook 2k. Did you mess something up perhaps? :rolleyes: -- standing so tall, the ground behind no trespassers, on every floor a garden swing, and another door she makes it clear, that everything is hers A place of abode, not far from here, Ms. Van de Veer
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I knew there was a reason I moved to Win2k etc. instead of eXtra Problems.... OK, loads of them :suss: Would you like to meet my teddy bear ?
Trollslayer wrote: I knew there was a reason I moved to Win2k etc. He is talking about Office not Windows. WinXP is actually a bit better than Win2k :) - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"
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ARRGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I just upgraded from Office 2000 to XP. OMG. Can they make Outlook any slower? Have they heard of multithreading? Is it truly possible to make a spreadsheet program have a 150Mb footprint yet not allow it to open two files simulataneously that have the same name? Do they, to put it bluntly, use this stuff before they send it out? I went from Office 2000 on a PIII 450 with 128Mb with 500Mb free drive space. It was slow, but totally useable. I now have Office XP on a P4 1.8GHz, 512MB, and there's 50Gb of swap space if it wants it. XP is *slower* on my new machine than 2000 was on my old machine. <pant, pant, pant> ARRGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Outlook XP without any updates/servicepacks is really slow it you let it "integrate" with messenger. If you turn off that feature, it's actually kinda fast :) - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"
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Weird.. Office XP runs flawlessly on my machine. Actually, I think Outlook XP is faster now than Outlook 2k. Did you mess something up perhaps? :rolleyes: -- standing so tall, the ground behind no trespassers, on every floor a garden swing, and another door she makes it clear, that everything is hers A place of abode, not far from here, Ms. Van de Veer
I think it's the rules processing. I have about 30 rules to filter out submissions, ads, personal, bounces, biz, spam and junk and it takes about 1 second to process each message. While it's doing this the UI is completely locked. Add in 10,000 emails and you have a bad, bad situation. I'd added all patches, disabled IM integration. I found the solution though: delete XP and install OFfice2K. It now works like a dream ;) cheers, Chris Maunder
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I think it's the rules processing. I have about 30 rules to filter out submissions, ads, personal, bounces, biz, spam and junk and it takes about 1 second to process each message. While it's doing this the UI is completely locked. Add in 10,000 emails and you have a bad, bad situation. I'd added all patches, disabled IM integration. I found the solution though: delete XP and install OFfice2K. It now works like a dream ;) cheers, Chris Maunder
Aha.. I have 20-30 rules myself, but I don't get 10k emails a day. More like 50, maybe 100 a really really busy day. -- standing so tall, the ground behind no trespassers, on every floor a garden swing, and another door she makes it clear, that everything is hers A place of abode, not far from here, Ms. Van de Veer
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I think it's the rules processing. I have about 30 rules to filter out submissions, ads, personal, bounces, biz, spam and junk and it takes about 1 second to process each message. While it's doing this the UI is completely locked. Add in 10,000 emails and you have a bad, bad situation. I'd added all patches, disabled IM integration. I found the solution though: delete XP and install OFfice2K. It now works like a dream ;) cheers, Chris Maunder
Actually, when I think about it, Outlook XP is pretty darn STUPID when it comes to rules. I've found that rules never work first thing in the morning - everything ends up in Inbox. Very annoying indeed. I've also noticed that if I get too many emails at once, the rules filter isn't fast enough and "forgets" some emails. :wtf: -- standing so tall, the ground behind no trespassers, on every floor a garden swing, and another door she makes it clear, that everything is hers A place of abode, not far from here, Ms. Van de Veer