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The Arctic could be ice free in 5-6 years time. `

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  • L Lost User

    But do they have to do it at our expense?

    "If climate has not "tipped" in over 4 billion years it's not going to tip now due to mankind." Richard S. Lindzen, Atmospheric Physicist, IPCC "It does not matter who you are, or how smart you are, or what title you have, or how many of you here are, and certainly not how many papers your side has published, if your prediction is wrong then your hypothesis is wrong. Period." Professor Richard Feynman

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    They probably don't have to, but do you think they care at whose expense they eat?

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      They probably don't have to, but do you think they care at whose expense they eat?

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      Be nice if they could do some usefull research though. I am all for protecting the environment and the planet, but perhaps they could devote themselves to developing new energy sources instead of coming up with silly scare stoires?

      "If climate has not "tipped" in over 4 billion years it's not going to tip now due to mankind." Richard S. Lindzen, Atmospheric Physicist, IPCC "It does not matter who you are, or how smart you are, or what title you have, or how many of you here are, and certainly not how many papers your side has published, if your prediction is wrong then your hypothesis is wrong. Period." Professor Richard Feynman

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        :) I was just looking at an old post and accidentally came across it. Given we are aproaching the date of the supposed calamity, I thought it interesting to reflect back on the statement, and the facts today. Of course we wil see more and more of these alarmists statements exposed for what they are as time passes. :)

        "If climate has not "tipped" in over 4 billion years it's not going to tip now due to mankind." Richard S. Lindzen, Atmospheric Physicist, IPCC "It does not matter who you are, or how smart you are, or what title you have, or how many of you here are, and certainly not how many papers your side has published, if your prediction is wrong then your hypothesis is wrong. Period." Professor Richard Feynman

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        As time marches forward, we learn and understand that much more than we previously did. And that can challenge accepted scientific theories, or place doubts on developing theories. Timescales in a chaotic system may never be as precise as we would like. And, we all are capable of producing alarmist statements that can mount to nothing more than hot air. :)

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          As time marches forward, we learn and understand that much more than we previously did. And that can challenge accepted scientific theories, or place doubts on developing theories. Timescales in a chaotic system may never be as precise as we would like. And, we all are capable of producing alarmist statements that can mount to nothing more than hot air. :)

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          Indeed.

          "If climate has not "tipped" in over 4 billion years it's not going to tip now due to mankind." Richard S. Lindzen, Atmospheric Physicist, IPCC "It does not matter who you are, or how smart you are, or what title you have, or how many of you here are, and certainly not how many papers your side has published, if your prediction is wrong then your hypothesis is wrong. Period." Professor Richard Feynman

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          • L Lost User

            Sssh! Dont confuse the alarmists with facts! :)

            "If climate has not "tipped" in over 4 billion years it's not going to tip now due to mankind." Richard S. Lindzen, Atmospheric Physicist, IPCC "It does not matter who you are, or how smart you are, or what title you have, or how many of you here are, and certainly not how many papers your side has published, if your prediction is wrong then your hypothesis is wrong. Period." Professor Richard Feynman

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            In the words of Homer Simpson... "Hah, Facts! You can prove anything with facts"

            ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] Trolls[^]

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              In the words of Homer Simpson... "Hah, Facts! You can prove anything with facts"

              ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] Trolls[^]

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              Smithers Jones
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              He also said: "Oh, people can come up with statistics to prove anything. 14% of people know that." :)

              "I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by." (DNA)

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              • D David1987

                They probably don't have to, but do you think they care at whose expense they eat?

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                :thumbsup:

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                  In the words of Homer Simpson... "Hah, Facts! You can prove anything with facts"

                  ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] Trolls[^]

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                  Le centriste
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                  I know a fact: I will get drunk before the last bit of ice melts.

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                    I know a fact: I will get drunk before the last bit of ice melts.

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                    A dead cert I will be joining you ! :)

                    ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] Trolls[^]

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                      A dead cert I will be joining you ! :)

                      ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] Trolls[^]

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                      • L Lost User

                        Back in 2007, Richard Abbot posted htis typical scare story. Scientists in the US have presented one of the most dramatic forecasts yet for the disappearance of Arctic sea ice. Their latest modelling studies indicate northern polar waters could be ice-free in summers within just 5-6 years. [^] So, now its 4 years later and...

                        "If climate has not "tipped" in over 4 billion years it's not going to tip now due to mankind." Richard S. Lindzen, Atmospheric Physicist, IPCC "It does not matter who you are, or how smart you are, or what title you have, or how many of you here are, and certainly not how many papers your side has published, if your prediction is wrong then your hypothesis is wrong. Period." Professor Richard Feynman

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                        This[^] should be of interest to you. EDIT: Forget it, just saw you already posted it!

                        People are more violently opposed to fur than leather because it's safer to harass rich women than motorcycle gangs

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                          This[^] should be of interest to you. EDIT: Forget it, just saw you already posted it!

                          People are more violently opposed to fur than leather because it's safer to harass rich women than motorcycle gangs

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                          Yeah, its swinging around a fair bit. What I find interesting is that these swings, both up and down, in the last fe years, are equal to to the supposed rise in 100 years, 0.7 `C. So if CO2 is such a big player, just what the hell is it that can do the same thing 100 times quicker! It must be a REALLY big player, whcih kind of puts CO2 way in the back.

                          "If climate has not "tipped" in over 4 billion years it's not going to tip now due to mankind." Richard S. Lindzen, Atmospheric Physicist, IPCC "It does not matter who you are, or how smart you are, or what title you have, or how many of you here are, and certainly not how many papers your side has published, if your prediction is wrong then your hypothesis is wrong. Period." Professor Richard Feynman

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