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  • L Lost User

    Yeah, so lets kill all the arabs. Every single one that objjects to Israels existence. Hmm, perhaps its a little more just to close Israel and return the Jews to the previous countries. Lets face it, its a social experiment backed by extremist christians, thats gone wrong. Time to close it down. Actually, when the US goes tits up, because of its economy, its not going to be able to bail out Israel anymore, and its going to get stuffed by someone sometime.

    "If climate has not "tipped" in over 4 billion years it's not going to tip now due to mankind." Richard S. Lindzen, Atmospheric Physicist, IPCC "It does not matter who you are, or how smart you are, or what title you have, or how many of you here are, and certainly not how many papers your side has published, if your prediction is wrong then your hypothesis is wrong. Period." Professor Richard Feynman

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    Well they're all idiots in the middle east, Israel included. But I'd say that at least for now, Israel is useful to do the dirty jobs such as bombing nuclear installations in shithole sand-filled countries and assassinating other idiots.

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      Well they're all idiots in the middle east, Israel included. But I'd say that at least for now, Israel is useful to do the dirty jobs such as bombing nuclear installations in shithole sand-filled countries and assassinating other idiots.

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      Lost User
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      Pakistan has got nukes. And its got an increasingly Islamic government. If Israel is so usefull why hasnt it attacked them?

      "If climate has not "tipped" in over 4 billion years it's not going to tip now due to mankind." Richard S. Lindzen, Atmospheric Physicist, IPCC "It does not matter who you are, or how smart you are, or what title you have, or how many of you here are, and certainly not how many papers your side has published, if your prediction is wrong then your hypothesis is wrong. Period." Professor Richard Feynman

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      • L Lost User

        Pakistan has got nukes. And its got an increasingly Islamic government. If Israel is so usefull why hasnt it attacked them?

        "If climate has not "tipped" in over 4 billion years it's not going to tip now due to mankind." Richard S. Lindzen, Atmospheric Physicist, IPCC "It does not matter who you are, or how smart you are, or what title you have, or how many of you here are, and certainly not how many papers your side has published, if your prediction is wrong then your hypothesis is wrong. Period." Professor Richard Feynman

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        David1987
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        Because it's too far away from them and/or they don't see Pakistan as an immediate threat? I don't know They bombed Syria's reactor, and they created Stuxnet, to give a few examples.

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        • L Lost User

          Leaving it up to the locals to do what they want. Why should we do anything with it? Why is it our responsibility? Why is it any of our business?

          "If climate has not "tipped" in over 4 billion years it's not going to tip now due to mankind." Richard S. Lindzen, Atmospheric Physicist, IPCC "It does not matter who you are, or how smart you are, or what title you have, or how many of you here are, and certainly not how many papers your side has published, if your prediction is wrong then your hypothesis is wrong. Period." Professor Richard Feynman

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          Lost User
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          WWI finished and you want the powers to just walk away, washing their hands of the remains of the Ottoman Empire. The Palestine Mandate was just one aspect of the remains of the Ottoman Empire. Go read up about that and then say what went wrong. I am not convinced that "the locals" would have (or could have) done better.

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            WWI finished and you want the powers to just walk away, washing their hands of the remains of the Ottoman Empire. The Palestine Mandate was just one aspect of the remains of the Ottoman Empire. Go read up about that and then say what went wrong. I am not convinced that "the locals" would have (or could have) done better.

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            Lost User
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            Richard A. Abbott wrote:

            , washing their hands of the remains of the Ottoman Empire.

            Whereas meddlling in their affairs has been a huge success. :) How could inaction have produced a worse outcome? The region is a powder keg and Lawrence was right, leave it to the Arabs, not cut it up between Britain and France.

            "If climate has not "tipped" in over 4 billion years it's not going to tip now due to mankind." Richard S. Lindzen, Atmospheric Physicist, IPCC "It does not matter who you are, or how smart you are, or what title you have, or how many of you here are, and certainly not how many papers your side has published, if your prediction is wrong then your hypothesis is wrong. Period." Professor Richard Feynman

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            • L Lost User

              What right do we have to take a chunk of someone elses country, rename it, and install a load of people claiming descendency from a tribe that lived somewhere in that region 2000 years ago? Its a joke ansd should never have been created. So the Jews havent got a home land. Tough. Thats their fault for wandering off millenia ago. Put an end to the middle east problem, put an end to Israel.

              "If climate has not "tipped" in over 4 billion years it's not going to tip now due to mankind." Richard S. Lindzen, Atmospheric Physicist, IPCC "It does not matter who you are, or how smart you are, or what title you have, or how many of you here are, and certainly not how many papers your side has published, if your prediction is wrong then your hypothesis is wrong. Period." Professor Richard Feynman

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              Corporal Agarn
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              It is surprising that a small [20,700 square kilometers (7,992 sq mi)] country can create so much controversy. Everybody hates Israel blaming their own problems on it. Why not try living with what you (other countries) are dealt for a while then see where the problem is.

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                It is surprising that a small [20,700 square kilometers (7,992 sq mi)] country can create so much controversy. Everybody hates Israel blaming their own problems on it. Why not try living with what you (other countries) are dealt for a while then see where the problem is.

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                Lost User
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                djj55 wrote:

                Everybody hates Israel blaming their own problems on it.

                No, mine are entirely of my own creation. :)

                "If climate has not "tipped" in over 4 billion years it's not going to tip now due to mankind." Richard S. Lindzen, Atmospheric Physicist, IPCC "It does not matter who you are, or how smart you are, or what title you have, or how many of you here are, and certainly not how many papers your side has published, if your prediction is wrong then your hypothesis is wrong. Period." Professor Richard Feynman

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                • L Lost User

                  What right do we have to take a chunk of someone elses country, rename it, and install a load of people claiming descendency from a tribe that lived somewhere in that region 2000 years ago? Its a joke ansd should never have been created. So the Jews havent got a home land. Tough. Thats their fault for wandering off millenia ago. Put an end to the middle east problem, put an end to Israel.

                  "If climate has not "tipped" in over 4 billion years it's not going to tip now due to mankind." Richard S. Lindzen, Atmospheric Physicist, IPCC "It does not matter who you are, or how smart you are, or what title you have, or how many of you here are, and certainly not how many papers your side has published, if your prediction is wrong then your hypothesis is wrong. Period." Professor Richard Feynman

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                  puromtec1
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                  I think you are missing the message of those who actively seek the destruction of Isreal. I can't look for quotes now, but the stated goal is actually world domination, where Isreal is merely a hurdle. And, one of very few functioning democracies in the middle-east.

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                    I think you are missing the message of those who actively seek the destruction of Isreal. I can't look for quotes now, but the stated goal is actually world domination, where Isreal is merely a hurdle. And, one of very few functioning democracies in the middle-east.

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                    Lost User
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                    democracy on stolen land?

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                    • L Lost User

                      democracy on stolen land?

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                      puromtec1
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                      huh? Stolen from who? Care to share some alternate reality?

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                        huh? Stolen from who? Care to share some alternate reality?

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                        Stolen from the Palestinians. Let the Zionsts establish Isreal in Germany, Austria, Poland, Romania or English or anywhere else European Jews came from, but not in Palestine.

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                        • L Lost User

                          Stolen from the Palestinians. Let the Zionsts establish Isreal in Germany, Austria, Poland, Romania or English or anywhere else European Jews came from, but not in Palestine.

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                          Bergholt Stuttley Johnson
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                          As the palestinians never had a country of there own it is very difficult to steal it, you should study the history, the land belonged to nearly everyone but the "palestinians" and was the United Kingdom of Israel for approximately 500 years, in fact the United Kingdom of Israel is the first documented owner of this land, so you could argue that it was orginally stolen from them. And rememeber that the Mandate for Palestine was split between the Arabs and the jewish/christian populations creating jordan syria and israel, yet I dont see the palestinians attacking Jordan or syria do you?

                          You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

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                            As the palestinians never had a country of there own it is very difficult to steal it, you should study the history, the land belonged to nearly everyone but the "palestinians" and was the United Kingdom of Israel for approximately 500 years, in fact the United Kingdom of Israel is the first documented owner of this land, so you could argue that it was orginally stolen from them. And rememeber that the Mandate for Palestine was split between the Arabs and the jewish/christian populations creating jordan syria and israel, yet I dont see the palestinians attacking Jordan or syria do you?

                            You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

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                            Lost User
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                            It is worse to occupy others lands and it is worst to justify the occupation. "United Kingdom of Israel" exists only in your imagination. Get yourself a dose of history. "Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time." - You proved it right.

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                              It is worse to occupy others lands and it is worst to justify the occupation. "United Kingdom of Israel" exists only in your imagination. Get yourself a dose of history. "Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time." - You proved it right.

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                              Bergholt Stuttley Johnson
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                              you should actually see if things existed before assuming they didnt, the United kingdom of Israel (alsdo the kingdom of israel and the kingdom of judah) was real and lasted 500 years ending about 586 bc (ish) so if its in MY imagination why is there references to it on sites I have no connection to? did you even bother to google it? it would now seem that you are the real stupidity after all! and you still have explaned why the Palestinians ONLY want the bit that the jews have and not Syria or Jordan! and this despite the fact that the jews were the majority in this area prior to ww1

                              You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

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                              • L Lost User

                                Stolen from the Palestinians. Let the Zionsts establish Isreal in Germany, Austria, Poland, Romania or English or anywhere else European Jews came from, but not in Palestine.

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                                puromtec1
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                                PLEASE...you are confused. Berg has correctly stated history for you. Get over it. I'll add also that (IIRC) the surrounding countries: Egypt, Syria and Jordan planned to simply divide Isreal if Isreal lost one of those wars they fought. Palistinian had no meaning to them.

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                                  PLEASE...you are confused. Berg has correctly stated history for you. Get over it. I'll add also that (IIRC) the surrounding countries: Egypt, Syria and Jordan planned to simply divide Isreal if Isreal lost one of those wars they fought. Palistinian had no meaning to them.

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                                  Lost User
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                                  you mean to say that Egypt, Syria and Jordan have stolen Palestinian lands, so it is okay for Israel to steal too? I have done extensive research on the Palestinian cause, please don't teach me history. The only Jews who are entitled to live in Palestine are the native Arab Jews, not the European Jews.

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                                    you mean to say that Egypt, Syria and Jordan have stolen Palestinian lands, so it is okay for Israel to steal too? I have done extensive research on the Palestinian cause, please don't teach me history. The only Jews who are entitled to live in Palestine are the native Arab Jews, not the European Jews.

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                                    Bergholt Stuttley Johnson
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                                    The jews didnt steal it, a sizable number lived there already and then the League of nations and later the United Nations agreed (notice that word) to give them it for a homeland, so the Jews stole nothing, you may be able to argue that they received stolen property but then again that land was stolen from the Turks not any palestinians. The arguement is why are the Palestinians not lobbing rockets into Jorden and Syria as they obtained the land in exactly the same way as Israel. As for teaching you history it would seem that someone needs to as you are factually incorrect in nearly ever statement you make. and why are european jews not welcome in a land? surely it is upto to the country concered as to wether someone is allowed in or should europe and the US kick out all the arabs etc! You may disagree as to morality of creating Israel but legally there is no issues, the allied powers in ww1 beat the Turks this gives them the right to decide what happens with the land - this is the way it has always been done

                                    You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

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                                    • B Bergholt Stuttley Johnson

                                      The jews didnt steal it, a sizable number lived there already and then the League of nations and later the United Nations agreed (notice that word) to give them it for a homeland, so the Jews stole nothing, you may be able to argue that they received stolen property but then again that land was stolen from the Turks not any palestinians. The arguement is why are the Palestinians not lobbing rockets into Jorden and Syria as they obtained the land in exactly the same way as Israel. As for teaching you history it would seem that someone needs to as you are factually incorrect in nearly ever statement you make. and why are european jews not welcome in a land? surely it is upto to the country concered as to wether someone is allowed in or should europe and the US kick out all the arabs etc! You may disagree as to morality of creating Israel but legally there is no issues, the allied powers in ww1 beat the Turks this gives them the right to decide what happens with the land - this is the way it has always been done

                                      You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

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                                      Lost User
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                                      My statements seem "incorrect" to you because it does not suit you. May be you are one of those who live in that stolen land. I never said European Jews are not welcome in any land. They're most welcome to establish Israhell in Germany, Austria, Poland, Romania and other parts where they originally belong to and where they were killed by the Christians. Yes, it is upto the country concerned and the country in question here is Palestine and not Israhell. "this is the way it has always been done" - so it must be okay if arab countries unite together and exterminate Israhell.

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                                      • B Bergholt Stuttley Johnson

                                        The jews didnt steal it, a sizable number lived there already and then the League of nations and later the United Nations agreed (notice that word) to give them it for a homeland, so the Jews stole nothing, you may be able to argue that they received stolen property but then again that land was stolen from the Turks not any palestinians. The arguement is why are the Palestinians not lobbing rockets into Jorden and Syria as they obtained the land in exactly the same way as Israel. As for teaching you history it would seem that someone needs to as you are factually incorrect in nearly ever statement you make. and why are european jews not welcome in a land? surely it is upto to the country concered as to wether someone is allowed in or should europe and the US kick out all the arabs etc! You may disagree as to morality of creating Israel but legally there is no issues, the allied powers in ww1 beat the Turks this gives them the right to decide what happens with the land - this is the way it has always been done

                                        You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

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                                        puromtec1
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                                        Didn't the Turks sell it to Great Britain who then made it into a Jewish state for those persecuted by Nazis and other anti-semites across Europe?

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                                        • L Lost User

                                          My statements seem "incorrect" to you because it does not suit you. May be you are one of those who live in that stolen land. I never said European Jews are not welcome in any land. They're most welcome to establish Israhell in Germany, Austria, Poland, Romania and other parts where they originally belong to and where they were killed by the Christians. Yes, it is upto the country concerned and the country in question here is Palestine and not Israhell. "this is the way it has always been done" - so it must be okay if arab countries unite together and exterminate Israhell.

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                                          puromtec1
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                                          Shameel wrote:

                                          they were killed by the Christians.

                                          That is silly. That is the same as saying the jews were killed by the depressed. Or, the jews were killed by the 6 foot tall men. You have committed the inductive fallacy in your attempt to disparage Christians. I could equally say the Christians died to free Europe from the Nazis. You have a lot of personal issues of hate, I see. Go ahead and tell me and Berg about your past. Maybe we can help sort you out. And, don't think you can bullshit me.

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