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  • D Dhyanga

    let suppose i have table like this:

    id name key
    1 sam sam1
    2 joy joy2

    name and key are inserted by user. Now whenever i am inserting new value, I need to check whelther I have that key exists or not. If yes, do nothing and if no, insert it. I know how to do it in dot net page but can I do this in sql query itself ? If yes, can anyone please help me..

    suchita

    modified on Wednesday, June 29, 2011 9:32 AM

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    UNCRushFan
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    Yes. You could try:

    IF NOT EXISTS (SELECT DISTINCT keyname FROM <table_name>)
    BEGIN
    INSERT INTO.....
    END

    As an aside: this may not be the case because I can only see two rows of sample data, but if the [keyname] value is a concatenation of [name] + [id] and [id] is an identity column, then you should always have a unique value in [keyname]. Hope that helps.

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    • D Dhyanga

      let suppose i have table like this:

      id name key
      1 sam sam1
      2 joy joy2

      name and key are inserted by user. Now whenever i am inserting new value, I need to check whelther I have that key exists or not. If yes, do nothing and if no, insert it. I know how to do it in dot net page but can I do this in sql query itself ? If yes, can anyone please help me..

      suchita

      modified on Wednesday, June 29, 2011 9:32 AM

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      Mycroft Holmes
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      If uncrush is right then one has to ask why you are creating the KeyName field, it is redundant. When I have to check for existing keys, I return the record instead of using exists, then test if I got a record, that way I have all the information about the record. I always put this type of work into a stored procedure that returns the record, the UI may not even know if the records was inserted ot not.

      Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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      • D Dhyanga

        let suppose i have table like this:

        id name key
        1 sam sam1
        2 joy joy2

        name and key are inserted by user. Now whenever i am inserting new value, I need to check whelther I have that key exists or not. If yes, do nothing and if no, insert it. I know how to do it in dot net page but can I do this in sql query itself ? If yes, can anyone please help me..

        suchita

        modified on Wednesday, June 29, 2011 9:32 AM

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        Chris Meech
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        Not knowing what database you are using, but you could also put a UNIQUE CONSTRAINT on the keyname column. :)

        Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar] In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is. [Yogi Berra] posting about Crystal Reports here is like discussing gay marriage on a catholic church’s website.[Nishant Sivakumar]

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        • D Dhyanga

          let suppose i have table like this:

          id name key
          1 sam sam1
          2 joy joy2

          name and key are inserted by user. Now whenever i am inserting new value, I need to check whelther I have that key exists or not. If yes, do nothing and if no, insert it. I know how to do it in dot net page but can I do this in sql query itself ? If yes, can anyone please help me..

          suchita

          modified on Wednesday, June 29, 2011 9:32 AM

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          PIEBALDconsult
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          SayamiSuchi wrote:

          keyname ... inserted by user

          Then why should it be unique? :confused: If there's something that needs to be unique, then it should be created/set by the system not the user. You already have id, what more do you need?

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            Not knowing what database you are using, but you could also put a UNIQUE CONSTRAINT on the keyname column. :)

            Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar] In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is. [Yogi Berra] posting about Crystal Reports here is like discussing gay marriage on a catholic church’s website.[Nishant Sivakumar]

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            Mycroft Holmes
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            I dislike using these, they tempt the developer into programming by error, try and add the dupe and trap the error. Whereas checking first makes the constraint redundant an does not generate an error.

            Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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            • P PIEBALDconsult

              SayamiSuchi wrote:

              keyname ... inserted by user

              Then why should it be unique? :confused: If there's something that needs to be unique, then it should be created/set by the system not the user. You already have id, what more do you need?

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              J4amieC
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              PIEBALDconsult wrote:

              If there's something that needs to be unique, then it should be created/set by the system not the user

              So next time you signup for an online service your username will be papsd9308skjfd9kdi32.

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              • M Mycroft Holmes

                I dislike using these, they tempt the developer into programming by error, try and add the dupe and trap the error. Whereas checking first makes the constraint redundant an does not generate an error.

                Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                Lost User
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                I disagree, on the same terms that I do not check whether a file is readonly/accesible/existing when I delete it.

                Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss:

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                • P PIEBALDconsult

                  SayamiSuchi wrote:

                  keyname ... inserted by user

                  Then why should it be unique? :confused: If there's something that needs to be unique, then it should be created/set by the system not the user. You already have id, what more do you need?

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                  Lost User
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                  Take a list of usernames. Usernames should be unique, but there's usually an identity. The identity is for the system, the username for the user. Same goes for a filename; they need be unique, but you don't let the system choose it.

                  Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss:

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                  • L Lost User

                    Take a list of usernames. Usernames should be unique, but there's usually an identity. The identity is for the system, the username for the user. Same goes for a filename; they need be unique, but you don't let the system choose it.

                    Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss:

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                    PIEBALDconsult
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                    Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                    filename; they need be unique

                    Not necessarily.

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                    • J J4amieC

                      PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                      If there's something that needs to be unique, then it should be created/set by the system not the user

                      So next time you signup for an online service your username will be papsd9308skjfd9kdi32.

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                      PIEBALDconsult
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                      Yeah, pretty much, at least I won't have to waste a half hour trying things and trying things always having it tell me it exists. Think of Animal House -- "Your name is Flounder. Your name is Pinto." Simple, saves the user a lot of needless trouble.

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                      • P PIEBALDconsult

                        Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                        filename; they need be unique

                        Not necessarily.

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                        Your new contract is located on the Z-share, and is called "contract.doc". Aw, there are two more files with the same name in there. :z

                        Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss:

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                        • M Mycroft Holmes

                          I dislike using these, they tempt the developer into programming by error, try and add the dupe and trap the error. Whereas checking first makes the constraint redundant an does not generate an error.

                          Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                          Chris Meech
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                          Again depending upon the database and how the constraint operation is implemented, there may also be performance gains by using the constraint instead of coding it into a program. But your mileage may vary extensively. :)

                          Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar] In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is. [Yogi Berra] posting about Crystal Reports here is like discussing gay marriage on a catholic church’s website.[Nishant Sivakumar]

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                          • L Lost User

                            I disagree, on the same terms that I do not check whether a file is readonly/accesible/existing when I delete it.

                            Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss:

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                            Mycroft Holmes
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                            Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                            on the same terms that I do not check whether a file is readonly/accesible/existing when I delete it

                            If I am coding file I/O I certainly do!

                            Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                            • L Lost User

                              Your new contract is located on the Z-share, and is called "contract.doc". Aw, there are two more files with the same name in there. :z

                              Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss:

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                              PIEBALDconsult
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                              That wouldn't be in the database, would it?

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                              • P PIEBALDconsult

                                That wouldn't be in the database, would it?

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                                That wouldn't matter, would it? :) Some people generally check every option, others trust in a form of exception-handling.

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                                  That wouldn't matter, would it? :) Some people generally check every option, others trust in a form of exception-handling.

                                  Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss:

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                                  PIEBALDconsult
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                                  Yes, it would.

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                                  • P PIEBALDconsult

                                    Yes, it would.

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                                    Why does it matter to you? Do you make a difference between deleting a file from disk and a file from a database, from an exception-handling viewpoint? :) It's a personal preference; lots of experienced programmers tend to check specific whether a file (or record) exists and whether they've got the appropriate rights to delete it (from disk or database). I prefer to rely on exception-handling, has always worked quite well for me. Do you try-except, or do you return a customized boolean that consists of Yes, No and EFileNotFound?

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                                      Why does it matter to you? Do you make a difference between deleting a file from disk and a file from a database, from an exception-handling viewpoint? :) It's a personal preference; lots of experienced programmers tend to check specific whether a file (or record) exists and whether they've got the appropriate rights to delete it (from disk or database). I prefer to rely on exception-handling, has always worked quite well for me. Do you try-except, or do you return a customized boolean that consists of Yes, No and EFileNotFound?

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                                      PIEBALDconsult
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                                      I'm pretty sure none of that has anything to do with the original question.

                                      Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                                      a difference between deleting a file from disk and a file from a database

                                      Yes. The database will likely return "0 records affected". The file system may simply say "ok, it's gone" even if it didn't exist. Either way, I don't care, just aslong as it's gone.

                                      Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                                      whether they've got the appropriate rights to delete it

                                      That's a case where looking first may give inacurate information and you could wind up having to handle an Exception anyway, so I prefer to just try it and see.

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                                      • P PIEBALDconsult

                                        I'm pretty sure none of that has anything to do with the original question.

                                        Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                                        a difference between deleting a file from disk and a file from a database

                                        Yes. The database will likely return "0 records affected". The file system may simply say "ok, it's gone" even if it didn't exist. Either way, I don't care, just aslong as it's gone.

                                        Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                                        whether they've got the appropriate rights to delete it

                                        That's a case where looking first may give inacurate information and you could wind up having to handle an Exception anyway, so I prefer to just try it and see.

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                                        PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                                        I'm pretty sure none of that has anything to do with the original question.

                                        True.

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                                        • D Dhyanga

                                          let suppose i have table like this:

                                          id name key
                                          1 sam sam1
                                          2 joy joy2

                                          name and key are inserted by user. Now whenever i am inserting new value, I need to check whelther I have that key exists or not. If yes, do nothing and if no, insert it. I know how to do it in dot net page but can I do this in sql query itself ? If yes, can anyone please help me..

                                          suchita

                                          modified on Wednesday, June 29, 2011 9:32 AM

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                                          Hello SayamiSuchi, This problem can be solved in many ways. Method 1: As has already been answered by UNCRushFan

                                          IF NOT EXISTS (SELECT DISTINCT keyname FROM <table_name>)
                                          BEGIN
                                          INSERT INTO.....
                                          END

                                          Method 2: Another traditional way [ Count(ColumnName) approach ]

                                          Declare @tblSource table([ID] int identity,[Name] varchar(20),[Key] varchar(10))
                                          insert into @tblSource Select 'Sam', 'Sam1' Union all Select 'Joy','Joy2'
                                          --Select * from @tblSource

                                          Declare @key as varchar(10)
                                          set @key = 'Joy2'

                                          if(( Select count([KEY]) from @tblSource where [key] = @key) = 1)
                                          begin
                                          insert into @tblSource Select 'NewName', 'NewKey'
                                          end

                                          Select * from @tblSource

                                          Method 3: Merge statement of Sql Server 2008 Consider the below statement first

                                          Declare @tblSource table([ID] int identity,[Name] varchar(20),[Key] varchar(10))
                                          insert into @tblSource Select 'Sam', 'Sam1' Union all Select 'Joy','Joy2'

                                          Declare @tblDestination table([ID] int identity,[Name] varchar(20),[Key] varchar(10))

                                          MERGE INTO @tblDestination AS Target
                                          USING (SELECT [Name],[Key] FROM @tblSource) AS Source
                                          ON Target.[Key] = Source.[Key]
                                          WHEN NOT MATCHED BY TARGET THEN
                                          INSERT (Name, [Key]) VALUES (Source.Name, Source.[Key]);

                                          Select * from @tblDestination

                                          I have a source table and a destination table. I am inserting the record in the destination table by checking whether the Key of the source table exists in the destination or not. In this case no key will be found in the destination and hence the output will be

                                          ID Name Key
                                          1 Sam Sam1
                                          2 Joy Joy2

                                          Now let us insert a record (with an already existing key) in the source table as

                                          insert into @tblSource Select 'Joy','Joy2'

                                          At this time the records in the source table will be

                                          ID Name Key
                                          1 Sam Sam1
                                          2 Joy Joy2
                                          3 Joy Joy2

                                          Now if we run the above Merge statement query

                                          MERGE INTO @tblDestination AS Target
                                          USING (SELECT [Name],[Key] FROM @tblSource) AS Source
                                          ON Target.[Key] = Source.[Key]
                                          WHEN NOT MATCHED BY TARGET THEN
                                          INSERT (Name, [Key]) VALUES (Source.Name, Source.[Key]);
                                          Select * from @tblDestination

                                          The output in the destination table will be

                                          ID Name Key
                                          1 Sam Sam1
                                          2 Joy Joy2

                                          because the key is already present in the destination table and hence it has been ignored. But if we have the source table as

                                          insert into @tblSource Select 'NewName',

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