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  • P PIEBALDconsult

    SayamiSuchi wrote:

    keyname ... inserted by user

    Then why should it be unique? :confused: If there's something that needs to be unique, then it should be created/set by the system not the user. You already have id, what more do you need?

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    J4amieC
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    PIEBALDconsult wrote:

    If there's something that needs to be unique, then it should be created/set by the system not the user

    So next time you signup for an online service your username will be papsd9308skjfd9kdi32.

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    • M Mycroft Holmes

      I dislike using these, they tempt the developer into programming by error, try and add the dupe and trap the error. Whereas checking first makes the constraint redundant an does not generate an error.

      Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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      I disagree, on the same terms that I do not check whether a file is readonly/accesible/existing when I delete it.

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      • P PIEBALDconsult

        SayamiSuchi wrote:

        keyname ... inserted by user

        Then why should it be unique? :confused: If there's something that needs to be unique, then it should be created/set by the system not the user. You already have id, what more do you need?

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        Take a list of usernames. Usernames should be unique, but there's usually an identity. The identity is for the system, the username for the user. Same goes for a filename; they need be unique, but you don't let the system choose it.

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          Take a list of usernames. Usernames should be unique, but there's usually an identity. The identity is for the system, the username for the user. Same goes for a filename; they need be unique, but you don't let the system choose it.

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          PIEBALDconsult
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          Eddy Vluggen wrote:

          filename; they need be unique

          Not necessarily.

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            PIEBALDconsult wrote:

            If there's something that needs to be unique, then it should be created/set by the system not the user

            So next time you signup for an online service your username will be papsd9308skjfd9kdi32.

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            PIEBALDconsult
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            Yeah, pretty much, at least I won't have to waste a half hour trying things and trying things always having it tell me it exists. Think of Animal House -- "Your name is Flounder. Your name is Pinto." Simple, saves the user a lot of needless trouble.

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            • P PIEBALDconsult

              Eddy Vluggen wrote:

              filename; they need be unique

              Not necessarily.

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              Your new contract is located on the Z-share, and is called "contract.doc". Aw, there are two more files with the same name in there. :z

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                I dislike using these, they tempt the developer into programming by error, try and add the dupe and trap the error. Whereas checking first makes the constraint redundant an does not generate an error.

                Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                Again depending upon the database and how the constraint operation is implemented, there may also be performance gains by using the constraint instead of coding it into a program. But your mileage may vary extensively. :)

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                • L Lost User

                  I disagree, on the same terms that I do not check whether a file is readonly/accesible/existing when I delete it.

                  Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss:

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                  Mycroft Holmes
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                  Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                  on the same terms that I do not check whether a file is readonly/accesible/existing when I delete it

                  If I am coding file I/O I certainly do!

                  Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                    Your new contract is located on the Z-share, and is called "contract.doc". Aw, there are two more files with the same name in there. :z

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                    PIEBALDconsult
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                    That wouldn't be in the database, would it?

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                    • P PIEBALDconsult

                      That wouldn't be in the database, would it?

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                      That wouldn't matter, would it? :) Some people generally check every option, others trust in a form of exception-handling.

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                        That wouldn't matter, would it? :) Some people generally check every option, others trust in a form of exception-handling.

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                        PIEBALDconsult
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                        Yes, it would.

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                        • P PIEBALDconsult

                          Yes, it would.

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                          Why does it matter to you? Do you make a difference between deleting a file from disk and a file from a database, from an exception-handling viewpoint? :) It's a personal preference; lots of experienced programmers tend to check specific whether a file (or record) exists and whether they've got the appropriate rights to delete it (from disk or database). I prefer to rely on exception-handling, has always worked quite well for me. Do you try-except, or do you return a customized boolean that consists of Yes, No and EFileNotFound?

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                            Why does it matter to you? Do you make a difference between deleting a file from disk and a file from a database, from an exception-handling viewpoint? :) It's a personal preference; lots of experienced programmers tend to check specific whether a file (or record) exists and whether they've got the appropriate rights to delete it (from disk or database). I prefer to rely on exception-handling, has always worked quite well for me. Do you try-except, or do you return a customized boolean that consists of Yes, No and EFileNotFound?

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                            PIEBALDconsult
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                            I'm pretty sure none of that has anything to do with the original question.

                            Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                            a difference between deleting a file from disk and a file from a database

                            Yes. The database will likely return "0 records affected". The file system may simply say "ok, it's gone" even if it didn't exist. Either way, I don't care, just aslong as it's gone.

                            Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                            whether they've got the appropriate rights to delete it

                            That's a case where looking first may give inacurate information and you could wind up having to handle an Exception anyway, so I prefer to just try it and see.

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                            • P PIEBALDconsult

                              I'm pretty sure none of that has anything to do with the original question.

                              Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                              a difference between deleting a file from disk and a file from a database

                              Yes. The database will likely return "0 records affected". The file system may simply say "ok, it's gone" even if it didn't exist. Either way, I don't care, just aslong as it's gone.

                              Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                              whether they've got the appropriate rights to delete it

                              That's a case where looking first may give inacurate information and you could wind up having to handle an Exception anyway, so I prefer to just try it and see.

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                              PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                              I'm pretty sure none of that has anything to do with the original question.

                              True.

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                              • D Dhyanga

                                let suppose i have table like this:

                                id name key
                                1 sam sam1
                                2 joy joy2

                                name and key are inserted by user. Now whenever i am inserting new value, I need to check whelther I have that key exists or not. If yes, do nothing and if no, insert it. I know how to do it in dot net page but can I do this in sql query itself ? If yes, can anyone please help me..

                                suchita

                                modified on Wednesday, June 29, 2011 9:32 AM

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                                Hello SayamiSuchi, This problem can be solved in many ways. Method 1: As has already been answered by UNCRushFan

                                IF NOT EXISTS (SELECT DISTINCT keyname FROM <table_name>)
                                BEGIN
                                INSERT INTO.....
                                END

                                Method 2: Another traditional way [ Count(ColumnName) approach ]

                                Declare @tblSource table([ID] int identity,[Name] varchar(20),[Key] varchar(10))
                                insert into @tblSource Select 'Sam', 'Sam1' Union all Select 'Joy','Joy2'
                                --Select * from @tblSource

                                Declare @key as varchar(10)
                                set @key = 'Joy2'

                                if(( Select count([KEY]) from @tblSource where [key] = @key) = 1)
                                begin
                                insert into @tblSource Select 'NewName', 'NewKey'
                                end

                                Select * from @tblSource

                                Method 3: Merge statement of Sql Server 2008 Consider the below statement first

                                Declare @tblSource table([ID] int identity,[Name] varchar(20),[Key] varchar(10))
                                insert into @tblSource Select 'Sam', 'Sam1' Union all Select 'Joy','Joy2'

                                Declare @tblDestination table([ID] int identity,[Name] varchar(20),[Key] varchar(10))

                                MERGE INTO @tblDestination AS Target
                                USING (SELECT [Name],[Key] FROM @tblSource) AS Source
                                ON Target.[Key] = Source.[Key]
                                WHEN NOT MATCHED BY TARGET THEN
                                INSERT (Name, [Key]) VALUES (Source.Name, Source.[Key]);

                                Select * from @tblDestination

                                I have a source table and a destination table. I am inserting the record in the destination table by checking whether the Key of the source table exists in the destination or not. In this case no key will be found in the destination and hence the output will be

                                ID Name Key
                                1 Sam Sam1
                                2 Joy Joy2

                                Now let us insert a record (with an already existing key) in the source table as

                                insert into @tblSource Select 'Joy','Joy2'

                                At this time the records in the source table will be

                                ID Name Key
                                1 Sam Sam1
                                2 Joy Joy2
                                3 Joy Joy2

                                Now if we run the above Merge statement query

                                MERGE INTO @tblDestination AS Target
                                USING (SELECT [Name],[Key] FROM @tblSource) AS Source
                                ON Target.[Key] = Source.[Key]
                                WHEN NOT MATCHED BY TARGET THEN
                                INSERT (Name, [Key]) VALUES (Source.Name, Source.[Key]);
                                Select * from @tblDestination

                                The output in the destination table will be

                                ID Name Key
                                1 Sam Sam1
                                2 Joy Joy2

                                because the key is already present in the destination table and hence it has been ignored. But if we have the source table as

                                insert into @tblSource Select 'NewName',

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