Objections to Christianity
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Why does God hate gays and prostitutes? Does he? When Jesus was walking on planet Earth he used to spend his time talking to prostitutes and other social outcasts. he had more time for them than for religious people. Why are Christians such hypocrites? Yes, why? Did you know that that Jesus got so upset with religious hypocrites that he started throwing the furniture about in their religious buildings?
Interesting topic to debate. I love to hate organized religion, it's one of my passions. Not today though. It gets me all riled up when I go off on my bible burning crusades. I will leave you with these two items to ponder. (1) Jesus was a Jew not a Christian. (2)King James had a lot to do with our modern Bible and not God.
Just along for the ride. "the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
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Why does God hate gays and prostitutes? Does he? When Jesus was walking on planet Earth he used to spend his time talking to prostitutes and other social outcasts. he had more time for them than for religious people. Why are Christians such hypocrites? Yes, why? Did you know that that Jesus got so upset with religious hypocrites that he started throwing the furniture about in their religious buildings?
CS2011 wrote:
Why does God hate gays and prostitutes?
Since God is a man made conept, and in the Abrahamic religions, he is a guilt ridden neurotic, then naturally, anyone who actually has fun must be destroyed. Removing the responsibility of parenthood form the sexual act clearly makes it too much fun! (Its why they hate abortion and durexes too)
CS2011 wrote:
**Why are Christians such hypocrites?
**Because it is almost impossible to stop oneself wanting to have fun!
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Why does God hate gays and prostitutes? Does he? When Jesus was walking on planet Earth he used to spend his time talking to prostitutes and other social outcasts. he had more time for them than for religious people. Why are Christians such hypocrites? Yes, why? Did you know that that Jesus got so upset with religious hypocrites that he started throwing the furniture about in their religious buildings?
CS2011 wrote:
Why does God hate gays and prostitutes?
Because that's how his character was written. Call it artistic license.
CS2011 wrote:
Why are Christians such hypocrites?
Because they base their lives on a fairy tale... A fairy tale that isn't even internally consistent. Any more questions?
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Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels) -
CS2011 wrote:
Why does God hate gays and prostitutes?
Because that's how his character was written. Call it artistic license.
CS2011 wrote:
Why are Christians such hypocrites?
Because they base their lives on a fairy tale... A fairy tale that isn't even internally consistent. Any more questions?
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Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)Ian Shlasko wrote:
Any more questions?
Ahhh questions... questions not compatible with religion or faith. ;P
Well, who doesn't release stuff like that ? Microsoft software is just as bad. Christian Graus That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_
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Well caught: was going to FTFY.
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CS2011 wrote:
Why does God hate gays and prostitutes?
Because that's how his character was written. Call it artistic license.
CS2011 wrote:
Why are Christians such hypocrites?
Because they base their lives on a fairy tale... A fairy tale that isn't even internally consistent. Any more questions?
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels) -
Ian Shlasko wrote:
A fairy tale that isn't even internally consistent.
Next you'll be telling me that not all Star Trek episodes agree with each other.
They couldn't even keep the ranks consistent :)
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Everything around you is evidence of a God. You, yourself, are evidence that a God exists.
A word of advice... Don't get into this argument with Dave. Not only is he right, but he KNOWS he's right, and he knows how to argue the point. You have no evidence other than a 2000-year-old storybook. You will lose this debate.
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Everything around you is evidence of a God. You, yourself, are evidence that a God exists.
ryanb31 wrote:
Everything around you is evidence of a God.
Really? Interesting. Your offer of proof of this bold statement?
ryanb31 wrote:
You, yourself, are evidence that a God exists.
I refer you to the question above since, unless you can offer proof of your initial assertion then your subsequent claim is fictional, at best.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
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ryanb31 wrote:
Everything around you is evidence of a God.
Really? Interesting. Your offer of proof of this bold statement?
ryanb31 wrote:
You, yourself, are evidence that a God exists.
I refer you to the question above since, unless you can offer proof of your initial assertion then your subsequent claim is fictional, at best.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
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ryanb31 wrote:
What proof is there that God does not exist?
That question.
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ryanb31 wrote:
What proof is there that God does not exist?
To prove that there is no God, I would have take the evidence for the existence of a God, and disprove it. But I see no evidence for the existence of a God, so the burden of proof is on you.
Be dogmatic, not thoughtful. It's easier, and you get bumper stickers.- Anon.
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ryanb31 wrote:
What proof is there that God does not exist?
To prove that there is no God, I would have take the evidence for the existence of a God, and disprove it. But I see no evidence for the existence of a God, so the burden of proof is on you.
Be dogmatic, not thoughtful. It's easier, and you get bumper stickers.- Anon.
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I gave you proof. You just ignore it. Ignoring it does not make it go away. Using you "logic", for me to prove there is a God I would have to disprove any proof you have that He does not exist. So, in your words, "the burden of [no] proof is on you."
Ok, here we go... Look around you. Can you see, hear, smell, taste, or feel (As in touch, not as in emotion) "god"? Not "evidence of god", but "god" itself? Can you take a picture, or somehow record its existence to show to someone else? No, you can't. Pointing to a chair and saying "that's god" doesn't provide evidence, any more than me pointing at that same chair and saying "that's a turnip" would provide evidence of it being a turnip. So if the existence of such an entity isn't obvious to any observer, the burden is on you to prove it. Now if you want to use the old "faith" argument, which we atheists have heard plenty of times before... That "god" intentionally doesn't provide any proof, and you have to believe anyway... That's fine. If you want to believe that, go right ahead. You can believe anything you want. Just don't expect to convince the rest of us.
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Ok, here we go... Look around you. Can you see, hear, smell, taste, or feel (As in touch, not as in emotion) "god"? Not "evidence of god", but "god" itself? Can you take a picture, or somehow record its existence to show to someone else? No, you can't. Pointing to a chair and saying "that's god" doesn't provide evidence, any more than me pointing at that same chair and saying "that's a turnip" would provide evidence of it being a turnip. So if the existence of such an entity isn't obvious to any observer, the burden is on you to prove it. Now if you want to use the old "faith" argument, which we atheists have heard plenty of times before... That "god" intentionally doesn't provide any proof, and you have to believe anyway... That's fine. If you want to believe that, go right ahead. You can believe anything you want. Just don't expect to convince the rest of us.
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)I know I can't convince you. I have talked to way too many people like you. I just think it is interesting how you can look all around you and believe it all came from nothing. Have you ever studied the universe? Have you ever studied a seed or even the human body? If there is no God, why do you obey any laws? Why do you get out of bed in the morning? Why do you go to work? Why do you do anything? What's the point? You can't see wind and I bet you believe in wind. Why? Because of the evidence that it exists. Because of the impact and effect it has on things. I'll bet you have never seen an electron but I am sure you believe in them. If you look, you can see evidence of God everywhere, including in the mirror. Whether you like it or not, you are proof that God exists. Instead of denying it and pretend it is not there, you ought to try embracing that. I do respect your right to believe what you want, I just can't understand why you would want to believe the way you do.
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I know I can't convince you. I have talked to way too many people like you. I just think it is interesting how you can look all around you and believe it all came from nothing. Have you ever studied the universe? Have you ever studied a seed or even the human body? If there is no God, why do you obey any laws? Why do you get out of bed in the morning? Why do you go to work? Why do you do anything? What's the point? You can't see wind and I bet you believe in wind. Why? Because of the evidence that it exists. Because of the impact and effect it has on things. I'll bet you have never seen an electron but I am sure you believe in them. If you look, you can see evidence of God everywhere, including in the mirror. Whether you like it or not, you are proof that God exists. Instead of denying it and pretend it is not there, you ought to try embracing that. I do respect your right to believe what you want, I just can't understand why you would want to believe the way you do.
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I know I can't convince you. I have talked to way too many people like you. I just think it is interesting how you can look all around you and believe it all came from nothing. Have you ever studied the universe? Have you ever studied a seed or even the human body? If there is no God, why do you obey any laws? Why do you get out of bed in the morning? Why do you go to work? Why do you do anything? What's the point? You can't see wind and I bet you believe in wind. Why? Because of the evidence that it exists. Because of the impact and effect it has on things. I'll bet you have never seen an electron but I am sure you believe in them. If you look, you can see evidence of God everywhere, including in the mirror. Whether you like it or not, you are proof that God exists. Instead of denying it and pretend it is not there, you ought to try embracing that. I do respect your right to believe what you want, I just can't understand why you would want to believe the way you do.
ryanb31 wrote:
I just think it is interesting how you can look all around you and believe it all came from nothing.
Everything comes from something, right back to the beginning of the universe. As for what happened "before" the Big Bang, which caused everything after it, we simply don't know. It doesn't make sense to assign some sort of all-powerful creator to hide our ignorance.
ryanb31 wrote:
If there is no God, why do you obey any laws?
- Some, because of the so-called "Golden Rule"... Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. I don't kill or steal because I wouldn't want others to do that to me. 2) For those I don't agree with, I consider it a necessary compromise. Civilized society requires a common set of laws, or else we'd have anarchy and chaos.
ryanb31 wrote:
Why do you get out of bed in the morning? Why do you go to work? Why do you do anything? What's the point?
See, that's the trouble with religious people... You need some cosmic reason to continue your life. The purpose of life is to live. That's it. There's no greater meaning except for the one you create for yourself. My purpose for living is to contribute to the betterment of the human race, any way I can. You need to find your own reason.
ryanb31 wrote:
You can't see wind and I bet you believe in wind. Why? Because of the evidence that it exists. Because of the impact and effect it has on things.
I can feel wind against my skin. I can see things blowing in the wind. I can perform an experiment to measure the acceleration and force due to wind. I can use some colored gas to see the wind's movements. It's quite easy to verify that it's there.
ryanb31 wrote:
I'll bet you have never seen an electron but I am sure you believe in them.
I don't have to believe in them. I can perform any number of scientific experiments to prove that they exist.
ryanb31 wrote:
If you look, you can see evidence of God everywhere, including in the mirror. Whether you like it or not, you are proof that God exists. Instead of denying it and pretend it is not there, you ought to try embracing tha
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ryanb31 wrote:
I just think it is interesting how you can look all around you and believe it all came from nothing.
Everything comes from something, right back to the beginning of the universe. As for what happened "before" the Big Bang, which caused everything after it, we simply don't know. It doesn't make sense to assign some sort of all-powerful creator to hide our ignorance.
ryanb31 wrote:
If there is no God, why do you obey any laws?
- Some, because of the so-called "Golden Rule"... Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. I don't kill or steal because I wouldn't want others to do that to me. 2) For those I don't agree with, I consider it a necessary compromise. Civilized society requires a common set of laws, or else we'd have anarchy and chaos.
ryanb31 wrote:
Why do you get out of bed in the morning? Why do you go to work? Why do you do anything? What's the point?
See, that's the trouble with religious people... You need some cosmic reason to continue your life. The purpose of life is to live. That's it. There's no greater meaning except for the one you create for yourself. My purpose for living is to contribute to the betterment of the human race, any way I can. You need to find your own reason.
ryanb31 wrote:
You can't see wind and I bet you believe in wind. Why? Because of the evidence that it exists. Because of the impact and effect it has on things.
I can feel wind against my skin. I can see things blowing in the wind. I can perform an experiment to measure the acceleration and force due to wind. I can use some colored gas to see the wind's movements. It's quite easy to verify that it's there.
ryanb31 wrote:
I'll bet you have never seen an electron but I am sure you believe in them.
I don't have to believe in them. I can perform any number of scientific experiments to prove that they exist.
ryanb31 wrote:
If you look, you can see evidence of God everywhere, including in the mirror. Whether you like it or not, you are proof that God exists. Instead of denying it and pretend it is not there, you ought to try embracing tha
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I know I can't convince you. I have talked to way too many people like you. I just think it is interesting how you can look all around you and believe it all came from nothing. Have you ever studied the universe? Have you ever studied a seed or even the human body? If there is no God, why do you obey any laws? Why do you get out of bed in the morning? Why do you go to work? Why do you do anything? What's the point? You can't see wind and I bet you believe in wind. Why? Because of the evidence that it exists. Because of the impact and effect it has on things. I'll bet you have never seen an electron but I am sure you believe in them. If you look, you can see evidence of God everywhere, including in the mirror. Whether you like it or not, you are proof that God exists. Instead of denying it and pretend it is not there, you ought to try embracing that. I do respect your right to believe what you want, I just can't understand why you would want to believe the way you do.
So if there was no god, you would go around murdering people, not go to sleep no matter how tired you are, and refuse to do anything even though that contradicts what I just wrote? What's the point, you ask? Indeed there is none. But no "point" is required. As for the rest, well.. if you have a theory, such as one asserting the existence of god, here's a basic plan to gain acception for your theory: 1) See whether it agrees with all past data. If there is a significant inconsistency, then your theory is flawed. 2) Set up an experiment that has an outcome your theory can predict, then see if your prediction was correct. If it wasn't, there is a problem with your theory or your experiment. If you want to prove that god exists, that is what you must do. And mind Occams Razor, if the outcome of your experiment is more easily explained without asserting the existence of "beings that break commonly accepted laws of nature", then your experiment is not enough to prove your theory in any meaningful way. What you have done so far is assert that god exists, and list some emotional arguments (in other words, inherently invalid arguments) as "proof". That won't convince anyone, except perhaps you, so I'll do something like that too: And finally, don't let your arrogance blind you. So god supposedly created an infinite universe, then waits 14 billion years, and then suddenly he takes an interest in some insignificant life form on an insignificant planet? Out of all the infinity of the universe, god chose just US, to do a couple of things and then apparently abandon us again (seriously, what has he done lately? allow wars an famine to happen? good job, sir)? As we say on the interwebs, SEEMS LEGIT