yet another new feature idea ... not a complaint, not a rant
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Today I was writing a response, on the Lounge, to Magister Vocabularius Dave Dalek, and I noticed, after sending, that my response was appended to the thread in such a way that it occurred on the next page after the post by Dave I had responded to. As I once again observed CP's elegant pop-up tree-view inheritance-visualizer lines in action, while hovering over the title of my just-added response ... a thought: What if you could click on that tree-view line and snap back to the root post on that branch of the tree ? Yes, I'd rate this a fanciful, even ephemeral, suggestion. My guess is to implement/maintain such a feature against all current browsers would be prohibitively costly in terms of time, energy, testing. To be even more extremely impractical: I can envision being able to context-click on one of the inheritance-visualizer lines and get a special menu ... yeah: I know context-click menus are reserved for browser specific uses. So fugedda-about that one, just a spark deserves extinguishment. But, just thought it won't 'hurt anything' to throw it in the mix here :) best, Bill p.s. one reason I shifted over to Google Chrome (Canary) for daily browsing is the great feature of being able to double-click select a word, and the context-menu click to open a new tab with a Google-search performed on that word.
"Use the word 'cybernetics,' Norbert, because nobody knows what it means. This will always put you at an advantage in arguments." Claude Shannon (Information Theory scientist): letter to Norbert Weiner of M.I.T., circa 1940
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Today I was writing a response, on the Lounge, to Magister Vocabularius Dave Dalek, and I noticed, after sending, that my response was appended to the thread in such a way that it occurred on the next page after the post by Dave I had responded to. As I once again observed CP's elegant pop-up tree-view inheritance-visualizer lines in action, while hovering over the title of my just-added response ... a thought: What if you could click on that tree-view line and snap back to the root post on that branch of the tree ? Yes, I'd rate this a fanciful, even ephemeral, suggestion. My guess is to implement/maintain such a feature against all current browsers would be prohibitively costly in terms of time, energy, testing. To be even more extremely impractical: I can envision being able to context-click on one of the inheritance-visualizer lines and get a special menu ... yeah: I know context-click menus are reserved for browser specific uses. So fugedda-about that one, just a spark deserves extinguishment. But, just thought it won't 'hurt anything' to throw it in the mix here :) best, Bill p.s. one reason I shifted over to Google Chrome (Canary) for daily browsing is the great feature of being able to double-click select a word, and the context-menu click to open a new tab with a Google-search performed on that word.
"Use the word 'cybernetics,' Norbert, because nobody knows what it means. This will always put you at an advantage in arguments." Claude Shannon (Information Theory scientist): letter to Norbert Weiner of M.I.T., circa 1940
BillWoodruff wrote:
Magister Vocabularius Dave Dalek
Excellent Latin. Despotis Glossa Daleko Davia would be the ancient Greek version.
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] Trolls[^]
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Today I was writing a response, on the Lounge, to Magister Vocabularius Dave Dalek, and I noticed, after sending, that my response was appended to the thread in such a way that it occurred on the next page after the post by Dave I had responded to. As I once again observed CP's elegant pop-up tree-view inheritance-visualizer lines in action, while hovering over the title of my just-added response ... a thought: What if you could click on that tree-view line and snap back to the root post on that branch of the tree ? Yes, I'd rate this a fanciful, even ephemeral, suggestion. My guess is to implement/maintain such a feature against all current browsers would be prohibitively costly in terms of time, energy, testing. To be even more extremely impractical: I can envision being able to context-click on one of the inheritance-visualizer lines and get a special menu ... yeah: I know context-click menus are reserved for browser specific uses. So fugedda-about that one, just a spark deserves extinguishment. But, just thought it won't 'hurt anything' to throw it in the mix here :) best, Bill p.s. one reason I shifted over to Google Chrome (Canary) for daily browsing is the great feature of being able to double-click select a word, and the context-menu click to open a new tab with a Google-search performed on that word.
"Use the word 'cybernetics,' Norbert, because nobody knows what it means. This will always put you at an advantage in arguments." Claude Shannon (Information Theory scientist): letter to Norbert Weiner of M.I.T., circa 1940
BillWoodruff wrote:
the great feature of being able to double-click select a word, and the context-menu click to open a new tab with a Google-search performed on that word.
You can do that in Firefox too. I also had an extension that allows you to select a word, right click and search in Wikipedia, although Wikipedia tends to be in the first few Google hits anyway, so why bother. And I have just tried in IE, and apparently you can Bing the selected word. Whatever that may be :)
Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends.
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BillWoodruff wrote:
Magister Vocabularius Dave Dalek
Excellent Latin. Despotis Glossa Daleko Davia would be the ancient Greek version.
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] Trolls[^]
And my translation would be Dalek Dave user of big and elaborate words
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BillWoodruff wrote:
the great feature of being able to double-click select a word, and the context-menu click to open a new tab with a Google-search performed on that word.
You can do that in Firefox too. I also had an extension that allows you to select a word, right click and search in Wikipedia, although Wikipedia tends to be in the first few Google hits anyway, so why bother. And I have just tried in IE, and apparently you can Bing the selected word. Whatever that may be :)
Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends.
ChrisElston wrote:
Bing the selected word
Since when did Mr Crosby start doing your internet searches for you ?
When I was a coder, we worked on algorithms. Today, we memorize APIs for countless libraries — those libraries have the algorithms - Eric Allman
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And my translation would be Dalek Dave user of big and elaborate words
Lobster Thermidor aux crevettes with a Mornay sauce, served in a Provençale manner with shallots and aubergines, garnished with truffle pate, brandy and a fried egg on top and Spam - Monty Python Spam Sketch
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Thats one I had to look up
Lobster Thermidor aux crevettes with a Mornay sauce, served in a Provençale manner with shallots and aubergines, garnished with truffle pate, brandy and a fried egg on top and Spam - Monty Python Spam Sketch
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Thats one I had to look up
Lobster Thermidor aux crevettes with a Mornay sauce, served in a Provençale manner with shallots and aubergines, garnished with truffle pate, brandy and a fried egg on top and Spam - Monty Python Spam Sketch
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And my translation would be Dalek Dave user of big and elaborate words
Lobster Thermidor aux crevettes with a Mornay sauce, served in a Provençale manner with shallots and aubergines, garnished with truffle pate, brandy and a fried egg on top and Spam - Monty Python Spam Sketch
Simon_Whale wrote:
user of big and elaborate words
Dalek Dave wrote:
I love language!
... language ... vocabulary for etymology's sake ... a passion as long as I can remember ... which is back about 760 lunar cycles when I was dandled on me un-sainted muther's knee as she read to me from Bullfinch's Mythology, and I drooled, and gave proof of future greatness by repeating "ga-ga." And, to season the hasty-pudding of adjectival glossolalisms ensconced herein: I give you ... drum-roll ... godwottery : English slang, reputedly invented at Oxford, circa 1930, to describe what western Americans of the 19th. century, the same ones who, probably, "called a spade a spade," (and not "an instance of the 'spade' class") might have spoken of "high-falutin' lingo" while spitting plug-tobacco juice into the sawdust on bar-room floor (JSOP country). best, Bill p.s. @DD: Have you read any of Steven Pinker's books; i.e., "Language Instinct," "Stuff of Thought" ?
"Use the word 'cybernetics,' Norbert, because nobody knows what it means. This will always put you at an advantage in arguments." Claude Shannon (Information Theory scientist): letter to Norbert Weiner of M.I.T., circa 1940
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Today I was writing a response, on the Lounge, to Magister Vocabularius Dave Dalek, and I noticed, after sending, that my response was appended to the thread in such a way that it occurred on the next page after the post by Dave I had responded to. As I once again observed CP's elegant pop-up tree-view inheritance-visualizer lines in action, while hovering over the title of my just-added response ... a thought: What if you could click on that tree-view line and snap back to the root post on that branch of the tree ? Yes, I'd rate this a fanciful, even ephemeral, suggestion. My guess is to implement/maintain such a feature against all current browsers would be prohibitively costly in terms of time, energy, testing. To be even more extremely impractical: I can envision being able to context-click on one of the inheritance-visualizer lines and get a special menu ... yeah: I know context-click menus are reserved for browser specific uses. So fugedda-about that one, just a spark deserves extinguishment. But, just thought it won't 'hurt anything' to throw it in the mix here :) best, Bill p.s. one reason I shifted over to Google Chrome (Canary) for daily browsing is the great feature of being able to double-click select a word, and the context-menu click to open a new tab with a Google-search performed on that word.
"Use the word 'cybernetics,' Norbert, because nobody knows what it means. This will always put you at an advantage in arguments." Claude Shannon (Information Theory scientist): letter to Norbert Weiner of M.I.T., circa 1940
One thing that is on the list is a "Go to Parent" link, but I guess you're after a "Go to Thread Start" link (as opposed to the "View Thread" which takes you into thread view). Having the hover line be clickable is do-able but painful, since it's merely a drawing on a canvas element, and not actually a HTML object. But it's doable. However, I think it would be a hidden UI treat and hence not used that much, whereas a link would be more clear.
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
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One thing that is on the list is a "Go to Parent" link, but I guess you're after a "Go to Thread Start" link (as opposed to the "View Thread" which takes you into thread view). Having the hover line be clickable is do-able but painful, since it's merely a drawing on a canvas element, and not actually a HTML object. But it's doable. However, I think it would be a hidden UI treat and hence not used that much, whereas a link would be more clear.
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
the message type icon just sits there: click=parent, ctrl/click=threadStart. :doh:
Luc Pattyn [My Articles] Nil Volentibus Arduum iSad
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One thing that is on the list is a "Go to Parent" link, but I guess you're after a "Go to Thread Start" link (as opposed to the "View Thread" which takes you into thread view). Having the hover line be clickable is do-able but painful, since it's merely a drawing on a canvas element, and not actually a HTML object. But it's doable. However, I think it would be a hidden UI treat and hence not used that much, whereas a link would be more clear.
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
@Chris & @Luc Your suggestions ... link, and re-use of icon ... seem so obvious, so practical ! Whilst the idea of adding yet another graphic-doodad to the CP Forums-UI may be about as welcome as another tick on a dog, I'll go ahead and insert foot in mouth: ... link to 46k .jpg file sketch of a CP Forum message window with some navigation arrows in a diamond-configuration added:[^]. I personally like the idea of four little arrows doing the obvious: right: next post on current thread (sibling: root node of next thread if no next sibling) left: previous post on current thread (sibling: parent of current post if no previous sibling) up: parent of current post (if current post is top-level: ?) down: top of next thread (first sibling of parent down: if current post is top-level ?) I suppose if you wanted to get really fancy, you could use the control, or alt-keys as a modifier. Issues ? Accessibility for disabled ? Imagining work other people could do is so much more fun than working :) best, Bill
"Use the word 'cybernetics,' Norbert, because nobody knows what it means. This will always put you at an advantage in arguments." Claude Shannon (Information Theory scientist): letter to Norbert Weiner of M.I.T., circa 1940
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One thing that is on the list is a "Go to Parent" link, but I guess you're after a "Go to Thread Start" link (as opposed to the "View Thread" which takes you into thread view). Having the hover line be clickable is do-able but painful, since it's merely a drawing on a canvas element, and not actually a HTML object. But it's doable. However, I think it would be a hidden UI treat and hence not used that much, whereas a link would be more clear.
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
What I would like to have is the possibility to hide long parts of a thread that goes off-topic. I assume the old classic plus or minus sign in front of the message isn't used for design reasons. But how about making it a feature you can shut on or off, like the profile popups?
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@Chris & @Luc Your suggestions ... link, and re-use of icon ... seem so obvious, so practical ! Whilst the idea of adding yet another graphic-doodad to the CP Forums-UI may be about as welcome as another tick on a dog, I'll go ahead and insert foot in mouth: ... link to 46k .jpg file sketch of a CP Forum message window with some navigation arrows in a diamond-configuration added:[^]. I personally like the idea of four little arrows doing the obvious: right: next post on current thread (sibling: root node of next thread if no next sibling) left: previous post on current thread (sibling: parent of current post if no previous sibling) up: parent of current post (if current post is top-level: ?) down: top of next thread (first sibling of parent down: if current post is top-level ?) I suppose if you wanted to get really fancy, you could use the control, or alt-keys as a modifier. Issues ? Accessibility for disabled ? Imagining work other people could do is so much more fun than working :) best, Bill
"Use the word 'cybernetics,' Norbert, because nobody knows what it means. This will always put you at an advantage in arguments." Claude Shannon (Information Theory scientist): letter to Norbert Weiner of M.I.T., circa 1940
Have you tried the ctrl+ arrow keys? They come pretty close to what you describe there (only the up arrow works a bit different I think) Unless I'm not understanding you correctly (seems to happen a lot today, pff I need some sleep ;P )
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the message type icon just sits there: click=parent, ctrl/click=threadStart. :doh:
Luc Pattyn [My Articles] Nil Volentibus Arduum iSad
Too obscure for the average user.
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
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What I would like to have is the possibility to hide long parts of a thread that goes off-topic. I assume the old classic plus or minus sign in front of the message isn't used for design reasons. But how about making it a feature you can shut on or off, like the profile popups?
Now that's an interesting idea. I like it.
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
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@Chris & @Luc Your suggestions ... link, and re-use of icon ... seem so obvious, so practical ! Whilst the idea of adding yet another graphic-doodad to the CP Forums-UI may be about as welcome as another tick on a dog, I'll go ahead and insert foot in mouth: ... link to 46k .jpg file sketch of a CP Forum message window with some navigation arrows in a diamond-configuration added:[^]. I personally like the idea of four little arrows doing the obvious: right: next post on current thread (sibling: root node of next thread if no next sibling) left: previous post on current thread (sibling: parent of current post if no previous sibling) up: parent of current post (if current post is top-level: ?) down: top of next thread (first sibling of parent down: if current post is top-level ?) I suppose if you wanted to get really fancy, you could use the control, or alt-keys as a modifier. Issues ? Accessibility for disabled ? Imagining work other people could do is so much more fun than working :) best, Bill
"Use the word 'cybernetics,' Norbert, because nobody knows what it means. This will always put you at an advantage in arguments." Claude Shannon (Information Theory scientist): letter to Norbert Weiner of M.I.T., circa 1940
Interesting and innovative, but I fear the icon is too small and fiddly, especially for touch screens. How about at the bottom we have: Reply . Email Thread . Parent Link . bookmark The Ctrl+Arrow shortcuts are there to speed up navigation (though I do need to fix them on the Mac)
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
