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  • M Marc Clifton

    OK, I was fairly tolerant at first. But no longer. The last three articles posted are pure crap. Time to gather a posse. Who wants to be the Sheriff??? Please, someone, kill these villians: http://www.codeproject.com/useritems/tealateala.asp[^] http://www.codeproject.com/useritems/AutoSizeDataGrid.asp[^] http://www.codeproject.com/useritems/builditemincontextmenu.asp[^] What a waste of bits. Marc Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
    sensitivity and ethnic diversity means celebrating difference, not hiding from it. - Christian Graus

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    Michael P Butler
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    I'm sure that Chris and the team are working on the problem. Perhaps if people started offering constructive criticism on the articles rather than the rather childish stuff that certain people post, then these newbies will learn. These crap articles don't tend to say around for long anyway, the editing team is pretty swift at cleaning up the crap. Perhaps instead of always complaining, we should come up with an improved submission method wizard and help Chris implement it. I'm sure together we can come up with something that doesn't get abused. Michael Fat bottomed girls You make the rockin' world go round -- Queen

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      We could add a "Report this article" link on every article and if the article suck we click on it to report that it sucks? The link will send statistics to Chris or the editors and they will see if articles get many reports or not and can decide if the article should be deleted? How about that? Rickard Andersson@Suza Computing C# and C++ programmer from SWEDEN! UIN: 50302279 E-Mail: nikado@pc.nu Speciality: I love C#, ASP.NET and C++!

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      Sven Axelsson
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      That's actually a good idea, but it ought to require a comment why the article was reported that is also posted as a comment to the article itself. In this it would require the person reporting to provide constructive criticism on article content (or lack thereof).

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        That's actually a good idea, but it ought to require a comment why the article was reported that is also posted as a comment to the article itself. In this it would require the person reporting to provide constructive criticism on article content (or lack thereof).

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        Sven Axelsson wrote: but it ought to require a comment why the article was reported Yes! When you click the link, a new page asppears with a textbox where you write your comment to and then send the report! Sven Axelsson wrote: also posted as a comment to the article itself Not necessary I think, there is a message board on each article and there can you write your ccriticism to the stupid article writer. Rickard Andersson@Suza Computing C# and C++ programmer from SWEDEN! UIN: 50302279 E-Mail: nikado@pc.nu Speciality: I love C#, ASP.NET and C++!

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          Sven Axelsson wrote: but it ought to require a comment why the article was reported Yes! When you click the link, a new page asppears with a textbox where you write your comment to and then send the report! Sven Axelsson wrote: also posted as a comment to the article itself Not necessary I think, there is a message board on each article and there can you write your ccriticism to the stupid article writer. Rickard Andersson@Suza Computing C# and C++ programmer from SWEDEN! UIN: 50302279 E-Mail: nikado@pc.nu Speciality: I love C#, ASP.NET and C++!

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          Rickard Andersson wrote: Sven Axelsson wrote: also posted as a comment to the article itself Not necessary I think, there is a message board on each article and there can you write your ccriticism to the stupid article writer. If you have to provide a (useful) comment when reporting an article, it would be a good idea to post that comment to the message board at the same time to save you the trouble of writing the same thing twice. But I'm sure Chris thought of this already.

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          • M Megan Forbes

            Marc Clifton wrote: have a downloadable source code 3. have a downloadable project What about my security articles? :(( They (well, 1 is live, the other 3/4 complete) are on methods to keep crackers from having a party on your web server / application. There is no code for this, just descriptions of methods. I am sure I am not the only one who writes such articles which are not code orientated? :~ These are very good points: :) 5. have text surrounding the code examples 6. probably should be in English (or at least only in languages that the subject language compilers are released in ) These rules (and others?) should not be publicly known, and you should get an automatic rejection email with explanation if you fail to do this. Are email addresses required/validated when you become a member (I can't re-member [ooh, bad pun]). Other ideas include grammar and spell checking. - especially this one! :cool:


            I knew it would end badly when I first met Chris in a Canberra alleyway and he said 'try some - it won't hurt you'..... - Christian Graus on Code Project outages Damned nice for remote servers where using Enterprise Manager is like wadding through treacle while covered in velcro, upside down -Paul Watson on SQL Server Query Analyser

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            What about my security articles? I was wondering about this kind of article. I guess there's always going to be exceptions to the rule. Two things come to mind--these kind of articles can't be submitted using the submission wizard. Also, perhaps this rule can be relaxed once you're no longer a bronze member. I dunno. Marc Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
            sensitivity and ethnic diversity means celebrating difference, not hiding from it. - Christian Graus

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              Rickard Andersson wrote: Sven Axelsson wrote: also posted as a comment to the article itself Not necessary I think, there is a message board on each article and there can you write your ccriticism to the stupid article writer. If you have to provide a (useful) comment when reporting an article, it would be a good idea to post that comment to the message board at the same time to save you the trouble of writing the same thing twice. But I'm sure Chris thought of this already.

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              But whu must the article writer know that his article sucks or what the message says? Rickard Andersson@Suza Computing C# and C++ programmer from SWEDEN! UIN: 50302279 E-Mail: nikado@pc.nu Speciality: I love C#, ASP.NET and C++!

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                But whu must the article writer know that his article sucks or what the message says? Rickard Andersson@Suza Computing C# and C++ programmer from SWEDEN! UIN: 50302279 E-Mail: nikado@pc.nu Speciality: I love C#, ASP.NET and C++!

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                Common courtesy says that if you think someone sucks and want to take action against him, you will tell him so up front and not just behind his back.

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                • M Michael P Butler

                  I'm sure that Chris and the team are working on the problem. Perhaps if people started offering constructive criticism on the articles rather than the rather childish stuff that certain people post, then these newbies will learn. These crap articles don't tend to say around for long anyway, the editing team is pretty swift at cleaning up the crap. Perhaps instead of always complaining, we should come up with an improved submission method wizard and help Chris implement it. I'm sure together we can come up with something that doesn't get abused. Michael Fat bottomed girls You make the rockin' world go round -- Queen

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                  Michael P Butler wrote: we should come up with an improved submission method wizard Here's an idea. Let's include a checkbox labelled "This article sucks, has no viable content, and is merely an attempt to waste space on this site and your time cleaning it up. Ha ha! I got you!" ------- signature starts "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio. ------- signature ends

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                    Common courtesy says that if you think someone sucks and want to take action against him, you will tell him so up front and not just behind his back.

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                    Rickard Andersson20
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                    I see now what you mean! Yes, that's a must! Rickard Andersson@Suza Computing C# and C++ programmer from SWEDEN! UIN: 50302279 E-Mail: nikado@pc.nu Speciality: I love C#, ASP.NET and C++!

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                    • M Marc Clifton

                      OK, I was fairly tolerant at first. But no longer. The last three articles posted are pure crap. Time to gather a posse. Who wants to be the Sheriff??? Please, someone, kill these villians: http://www.codeproject.com/useritems/tealateala.asp[^] http://www.codeproject.com/useritems/AutoSizeDataGrid.asp[^] http://www.codeproject.com/useritems/builditemincontextmenu.asp[^] What a waste of bits. Marc Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
                      sensitivity and ethnic diversity means celebrating difference, not hiding from it. - Christian Graus

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                      Chris Maunder
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                      We've been through this before and it's a fine balance between making it easy for people to share their articles and ensuring that the system isn't abused. Each time CodeProject is abused the barrier to entry gets increased by one notch which is something nobody wants. For the moment I'm going to keep things as-is until I can rewrite the system. The editors know that if an article is unsalvagable or offensive then they can (and should) delete it immediately. cheers, Chris Maunder

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                        Michael P Butler wrote: we should come up with an improved submission method wizard Here's an idea. Let's include a checkbox labelled "This article sucks, has no viable content, and is merely an attempt to waste space on this site and your time cleaning it up. Ha ha! I got you!" ------- signature starts "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio. ------- signature ends

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                        <slaps forehead> brilliant. cheers, Chris Maunder

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                        • M Marc Clifton

                          OK, I was fairly tolerant at first. But no longer. The last three articles posted are pure crap. Time to gather a posse. Who wants to be the Sheriff??? Please, someone, kill these villians: http://www.codeproject.com/useritems/tealateala.asp[^] http://www.codeproject.com/useritems/AutoSizeDataGrid.asp[^] http://www.codeproject.com/useritems/builditemincontextmenu.asp[^] What a waste of bits. Marc Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
                          sensitivity and ethnic diversity means celebrating difference, not hiding from it. - Christian Graus

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                          Don't we have a ranking system? and comments section? People just have to realize that with a wealth of free information comes the possibility that you might have to waste a few minutes reading crap. BW "Computers are useless. They only give you answers." - Pablo Picasso

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                            I wonder if we could automate this. For example, your first article must: 1. have an image 2. have a downloadable source code 3. have a downloadable project 4. have 3 code examples (

                            ...code...

                            ) 5. have text surrounding the code examples 6. probably should be in English 7. probably shouldn't have any wacky symbols. 8. The links for 1, 2, and 3 should work. #2 should include some recognizable file extension #3 should include some recognizable file extension Neither #2 or #3 should be too hard to implement, I would think. It seems that some fairly simple program could go through and validate these rules. I'll even volunteer to write it! (I wonder if that gets anyone's attention) These rules (and others?) should not be publicly known, and you should get an automatic rejection email with explanation if you fail to do this. Are email addresses required/validated when you become a member (I can't re-member [ooh, bad pun]). Other ideas include grammar and spell checking. Marc Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
                            sensitivity and ethnic diversity means celebrating difference, not hiding from it. - Christian Graus

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                            That is a stupid idea! I can think of loads of articles that wouldn't need to fulfill those requirements. :~


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                              That is a stupid idea! I can think of loads of articles that wouldn't need to fulfill those requirements. :~


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                              Marc Clifton
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                              That is a stupid idea! :-D Hey, my first stupid idea in 40 years! Not a bad track record, eh? Marc Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
                              sensitivity and ethnic diversity means celebrating difference, not hiding from it. - Christian Graus

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                                Don't we have a ranking system? and comments section? People just have to realize that with a wealth of free information comes the possibility that you might have to waste a few minutes reading crap. BW "Computers are useless. They only give you answers." - Pablo Picasso

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                                Marc Clifton
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                                Well, I think of it more like a TV or radio. I'd just rather turn it off. Marc Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
                                sensitivity and ethnic diversity means celebrating difference, not hiding from it. - Christian Graus

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