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  • R Roger Wright

    Even worse - an Egyptian version:-) Nobody wants to read a diary by someone who has not seen the shadow of Bubba on the prison shower wall in front of them!
    Paul Watson, on BLOGS and privacy - 1/16/2003

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    "Call the CIA, the FBI, the NSA, the Secret Service! I've got one, I've got one!" Nice toy, but :wtf: can you do with such a thing?


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    • S Stan Shannon

      But Chris, this ruling is not an abuse of the Constitution. It may indicate needed reforms in our government, but it hardly represents a gross violation of the constitution. I would happily join in just about any revolution to overthrow the government you guys could come up with just for the hell of it. But I have serious doubts about how we could actually improve the system. We need both the Constitution and capitalism - they are the two sides of the same coin. "Any clod can have the facts, but having opinions is an art." Charles McCabe, San Francisco Chronicle

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      Stan Shannon wrote: this ruling is not an abuse of the Constitution no, and neither would be congress overturning the 2nd amendment - it would be perfect legal and withing congress' legal mandate to do so. would you sit by and say "yeah, that's fine. the other parts of the constitution say it's ok for them to pass this law banning anything that can fire a bullet" ? Stan Shannon wrote: But I have serious doubts about how we could actually improve the system. start with the basic constitution again; get rid of or fix the parts we know to be ambiguous or confusing - like the 2nd amendment (militia? well-regulated?); add the basic things we know we want that weren't in the original (voting rights for all, etc).. get rid of the electoral college or implement some kind of run-off scheme to fix the issues we had in 2000, etc.. there's a lot that could be done. but, no, it will never happen. -c


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        "Call the CIA, the FBI, the NSA, the Secret Service! I've got one, I've got one!" Nice toy, but :wtf: can you do with such a thing?


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        It's fun! Plus, I can eliminate every bug in a PC with one clip. Actually, though I've had a gun most of my life, I never once considered buying an assault rifle. Then the Peoples' Republic of California started the process of outlawing them (We just want to register them - no one is talking about taking them away from you! Yeah, right!). Anything they tell me I may not have, I want - it's a matter of principle. No government has any right to direct what I may own unless I specifically grant it that right, and in this case I do not. Nobody wants to read a diary by someone who has not seen the shadow of Bubba on the prison shower wall in front of them!
        Paul Watson, on BLOGS and privacy - 1/16/2003

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        • C Chris Losinger

          since the US Supreme court has decided that the phrase "limited times" in the US constitution means nothing and that Congress can, at the behest of Disney and pals, extend copyright terms indefinitely. so what? Snow White, Cinderella, Little Mermaid, Aladdin, Jungle Book, Beauty and the Beast, Hunchback of Notre Dame, Robin Hood, etc.. all of these are works that passed into the public domain (ie. their copyright expired) that Disney turned into movies. but, you should not expect to ever see a work based on a Disney movie (becuse that would violate their copyrights). likewise, you should never expect to see anything that has been created since 1920 pass into the public domain. http://dailynews.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&ncid=&e=4&u=/ap/20030115/ap_on_bi_ge/scotus_copyrights[^]


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          Chris Maunder
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          Big business controlling the legal system in the US?? :omg: Sorry - I forgot to add the <sarcasm> tags. Free speech, individual's rights and democracy seem to be a dwindling commodity in the US. cheers, Chris Maunder

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            "If nature has made any one thing less susceptible than all others of exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power called an idea, which an individual may exclusively possess as long as he keeps it to himself; but the moment it is divulged, it forces itself into the possession of everyone, and the receiver cannot dispossess himself of it. Its peculiar character, too, is that no one possesses the less, because every other possesses the whole of it. He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. That ideas should freely spread from one to another over the globe, for the moral and mutual instruction of man, and improvement of his condition, seems to have been peculiarly and benevolently designed by nature, when she made them, like fire, expansible over all space, without lessening their density at any point, and like the air in which we breathe, move, and have our physical being, incapable of confinement or exclusive appropriation. Inventions then cannot, in nature, be a subject of property." - Thomas Jefferson


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            You always give me something to ponder, Chris. "Any clod can have the facts, but having opinions is an art." Charles McCabe, San Francisco Chronicle

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              Stan Shannon wrote: this ruling is not an abuse of the Constitution no, and neither would be congress overturning the 2nd amendment - it would be perfect legal and withing congress' legal mandate to do so. would you sit by and say "yeah, that's fine. the other parts of the constitution say it's ok for them to pass this law banning anything that can fire a bullet" ? Stan Shannon wrote: But I have serious doubts about how we could actually improve the system. start with the basic constitution again; get rid of or fix the parts we know to be ambiguous or confusing - like the 2nd amendment (militia? well-regulated?); add the basic things we know we want that weren't in the original (voting rights for all, etc).. get rid of the electoral college or implement some kind of run-off scheme to fix the issues we had in 2000, etc.. there's a lot that could be done. but, no, it will never happen. -c


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              Chris Losinger wrote: no, and neither would be congress overturning the 2nd amendment - it would be perfect legal and withing congress' legal mandate to do so. would you sit by and say "yeah, that's fine. the other parts of the constitution say it's ok for them to pass this law banning anything that can fire a bullet" ? I would have no problem if that did that. They have the power to overturn any amendment. My only argument has been that until they do that they have no power to limit my ownership of firearms. And the Federal Judiciary should not try to do the heavy lifting for them as they did with Roe V. Wade. Chris Losinger wrote: start with the basic constitution again; get rid of or fix the parts we know to be ambiguous or confusing - like the 2nd amendment (militia? well-regulated?); add the basic things we know we want that weren't in the original (voting rights for all, etc).. get rid of the electoral college or implement some kind of run-off scheme to fix the issues we had in 2000, etc.. there's a lot that could be done. but, no, it will never happen. I don't disagree. But what if someone wants to throw in Nationalized health care or some such? It could turn into an absolute nightmare. My solution is to just break the country up into about five seperate countries with each new country having its own little constitutional convention. Our current size and strength buys us nothing but the hatred of the world. So lets just give up our hegemony and go our separate ways. "Any clod can have the facts, but having opinions is an art." Charles McCabe, San Francisco Chronicle

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                You always give me something to ponder, Chris. "Any clod can have the facts, but having opinions is an art." Charles McCabe, San Francisco Chronicle

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                isn't that paragraph absolutely brilliant? couldn't ask for a sharper mind to write the constitution. :beer: -c


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                • R Roger Wright

                  It's fun! Plus, I can eliminate every bug in a PC with one clip. Actually, though I've had a gun most of my life, I never once considered buying an assault rifle. Then the Peoples' Republic of California started the process of outlawing them (We just want to register them - no one is talking about taking them away from you! Yeah, right!). Anything they tell me I may not have, I want - it's a matter of principle. No government has any right to direct what I may own unless I specifically grant it that right, and in this case I do not. Nobody wants to read a diary by someone who has not seen the shadow of Bubba on the prison shower wall in front of them!
                  Paul Watson, on BLOGS and privacy - 1/16/2003

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                  Roger Wright wrote: I can eliminate every bug in a PC with one clip It sounds like a commercial for "Doom III" :) I hope the Peoples' Republic of California didn't outlaw chemical, biological or nuclear weapons :-D ...:)...:~ .... :omg:, did they :eek: ?! I like to shoot sometimes too , but I deeply think that a war weapon shouldn't be allowed to be sold to individuals. If somebody wants to use it, he/she has just to engage in the Army :)


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                    Roger Wright wrote: I can eliminate every bug in a PC with one clip It sounds like a commercial for "Doom III" :) I hope the Peoples' Republic of California didn't outlaw chemical, biological or nuclear weapons :-D ...:)...:~ .... :omg:, did they :eek: ?! I like to shoot sometimes too , but I deeply think that a war weapon shouldn't be allowed to be sold to individuals. If somebody wants to use it, he/she has just to engage in the Army :)


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                    KaЯl wrote: I deeply think that a war weapon shouldn't be allowed to be sold to individuals I agree, but the press and politicians looking for an emotional 'cause' they can use have badly distorted the facts. What is called an 'assault rifle' here is, in fact, a low-quality hunting rifle. Although they like to call them automatic weapons, they aren't - one pull of the trigger = one bullet. They don't fire any faster than a Remington, and they're generally poorly made, and less accurate. The difference that they use to play on peoples' emotions to get them banned is that they look scary - like a military gun. Nobody wants to read a diary by someone who has not seen the shadow of Bubba on the prison shower wall in front of them!
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                      KaЯl wrote: I deeply think that a war weapon shouldn't be allowed to be sold to individuals I agree, but the press and politicians looking for an emotional 'cause' they can use have badly distorted the facts. What is called an 'assault rifle' here is, in fact, a low-quality hunting rifle. Although they like to call them automatic weapons, they aren't - one pull of the trigger = one bullet. They don't fire any faster than a Remington, and they're generally poorly made, and less accurate. The difference that they use to play on peoples' emotions to get them banned is that they look scary - like a military gun. Nobody wants to read a diary by someone who has not seen the shadow of Bubba on the prison shower wall in front of them!
                      Paul Watson, on BLOGS and privacy - 1/16/2003

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                      You're totally right, that's why I prone a total ban on weapons and guns :-D In fact, you are much more anarchist than republican (not the GOP, but to be one of those who believe in the concept of Republic), aren't you ? :)


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