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  • D David Stone

    First, read the story:

    Once upon a time there was a young woman named Abigail. She was very much in love with a young man named Gregory, who lived on the opposite bank of a river teeming with hungry man- and woman-eating alligators. She wanted to cross the river to be with him, but unfortunately, the bridge across the river had been washed out. So Abigail went to ask Sinbad, a river boat captain, to take her across. "There's only one condition," he said. "First, you will have to sleep with me." Of course, she refused. She went to her friend Ivan, explained her situation, and asked for help. "Not me," he said. "I don't want to get involved in your problem." Seeing no other way, Abigail went back to Sinbad and met his conditions. True to his word, Sinbad then took her across the river to see Gregory. Gregory was very happy to see Abigail, and they spent an idyllic afternoon together. But when Abigail told him what she had done to get the use of Sinbad's boat, Gregory said, "What kind of woman are you to do such a thing?" And he left in a huff, saying he never wanted to see her again. Abigail went off crying and found Slug and told him everything that had happened. Slug, feeling sorry for Abigail, went and found Gregory and beat him to a pulp while Abigail looked on laughing.

    Now, list the five characters in order, from the most despicable to the least. (1=worst, 5=best)

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    Are the Alligators considered to be characters ? the minion

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      1- Sarah Michelle Geller 2- Lara Flynn Boyle 3- That chick from Sex in the City 4- Hillary Clinton 5- Venus Williams oh... YOUR story... sorry.. try again... 1- Abigail 2- Gregory 3- Slug 4- Ivan 5- Sinbad Though it was a close thing between Gregory and Abigail. BTW, are you trying to say something about the current world political situation by using this story as an analogy and then getting us to rate the people/countries and then you will retaliate by linking up the names (e.g. Ivan = France or something) and showing how hypocritical we all are?* Or is it just an honest story? * Man, is that a long sentence or what! And all those ands! Amazing.

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      Paul Watson wrote: Ivan = France I think he'd be Russian. This story has been around for a while, and has been used in "sociology" type education to show how different groups find the different characters values to be different and vote for them accordingly. I think its common to find women prefer Abigail to Gregory, and men vice verca. Regardz Colin J Davies

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        Paul Watson wrote: Ivan = France I think he'd be Russian. This story has been around for a while, and has been used in "sociology" type education to show how different groups find the different characters values to be different and vote for them accordingly. I think its common to find women prefer Abigail to Gregory, and men vice verca. Regardz Colin J Davies

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        You are the intrepid one, always willing to leap into the fray! A serious character flaw, I might add, but entertaining. Said by Roger Wright about me.

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        Colin Davies wrote: This story has been around for a while, and has been used in "sociology" type education to show how different groups find the different characters values to be different and vote for them accordingly. Ahhh, thanks :) Colin Davies wrote: I think he'd be Russian True but I could not place Russia in my people/country idea.

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        • D David Stone

          First, read the story:

          Once upon a time there was a young woman named Abigail. She was very much in love with a young man named Gregory, who lived on the opposite bank of a river teeming with hungry man- and woman-eating alligators. She wanted to cross the river to be with him, but unfortunately, the bridge across the river had been washed out. So Abigail went to ask Sinbad, a river boat captain, to take her across. "There's only one condition," he said. "First, you will have to sleep with me." Of course, she refused. She went to her friend Ivan, explained her situation, and asked for help. "Not me," he said. "I don't want to get involved in your problem." Seeing no other way, Abigail went back to Sinbad and met his conditions. True to his word, Sinbad then took her across the river to see Gregory. Gregory was very happy to see Abigail, and they spent an idyllic afternoon together. But when Abigail told him what she had done to get the use of Sinbad's boat, Gregory said, "What kind of woman are you to do such a thing?" And he left in a huff, saying he never wanted to see her again. Abigail went off crying and found Slug and told him everything that had happened. Slug, feeling sorry for Abigail, went and found Gregory and beat him to a pulp while Abigail looked on laughing.

          Now, list the five characters in order, from the most despicable to the least. (1=worst, 5=best)

          Hey, what can I say? I'm a chick magnet...a babe conductor...a logarithm for the ladies. -Strong Bad from HomeStarRunner.com Essential Tips for Web Developers

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          Everyone is giving this a go, so I'll join in. Sinbad Ivan Gregory Abigail Slug So what does that tell you about me ? Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002
          C# will attract all comers, where VB is for IT Journalists and managers - Michael P Butler 05-12-2002
          Again, you can screw up a C/C++ program just as easily as a VB program. OK, maybe not as easily, but it's certainly doable. - Jamie Nordmeyer - 15-Nov-2002

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          • P Paul Watson

            1- Sarah Michelle Geller 2- Lara Flynn Boyle 3- That chick from Sex in the City 4- Hillary Clinton 5- Venus Williams oh... YOUR story... sorry.. try again... 1- Abigail 2- Gregory 3- Slug 4- Ivan 5- Sinbad Though it was a close thing between Gregory and Abigail. BTW, are you trying to say something about the current world political situation by using this story as an analogy and then getting us to rate the people/countries and then you will retaliate by linking up the names (e.g. Ivan = France or something) and showing how hypocritical we all are?* Or is it just an honest story? * Man, is that a long sentence or what! And all those ands! Amazing.

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            Christian Graus
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            Why Abigail at the top ? Why Sinbad at the bottom ? Do you have it in reverse order ? Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002
            C# will attract all comers, where VB is for IT Journalists and managers - Michael P Butler 05-12-2002
            Again, you can screw up a C/C++ program just as easily as a VB program. OK, maybe not as easily, but it's certainly doable. - Jamie Nordmeyer - 15-Nov-2002

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              Why Abigail at the top ? Why Sinbad at the bottom ? Do you have it in reverse order ? Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002
              C# will attract all comers, where VB is for IT Journalists and managers - Michael P Butler 05-12-2002
              Again, you can screw up a C/C++ program just as easily as a VB program. OK, maybe not as easily, but it's certainly doable. - Jamie Nordmeyer - 15-Nov-2002

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              Christian Graus wrote: Do you have it in reverse order ? No. Abigail is the most dispecable IMO. Sinbad the least.

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                Christian Graus wrote: Do you have it in reverse order ? No. Abigail is the most dispecable IMO. Sinbad the least.

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                On what basis ? Not arguing, just interested. Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002
                C# will attract all comers, where VB is for IT Journalists and managers - Michael P Butler 05-12-2002
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                  Paul Watson wrote: Ivan = France I think he'd be Russian. This story has been around for a while, and has been used in "sociology" type education to show how different groups find the different characters values to be different and vote for them accordingly. I think its common to find women prefer Abigail to Gregory, and men vice verca. Regardz Colin J Davies

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                  You are the intrepid one, always willing to leap into the fray! A serious character flaw, I might add, but entertaining. Said by Roger Wright about me.

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                  Colin Davies wrote: This story has been around for a while, and has been used in "sociology" type education to show how different groups find the different characters values to be different and vote for them accordingly. On a forum such as the soapbox, I think it says more about the people that take part in an attempt to rationalise such a ridiculous scenario and subsequently analyze their results. :wtf: Debbie

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                    On what basis ? Not arguing, just interested. Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002
                    C# will attract all comers, where VB is for IT Journalists and managers - Michael P Butler 05-12-2002
                    Again, you can screw up a C/C++ program just as easily as a VB program. OK, maybe not as easily, but it's certainly doable. - Jamie Nordmeyer - 15-Nov-2002

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                    Christian Graus wrote: On what basis ? The river boat captain is a lonely guy. He spends his time plying the waters, probably hardly ever meeting pretty young things. He probably also does not know much better, seeing sex as sex and not love. To him it is not such a big deel. The story uses sex as a trigger word too. It could easily be replaced by something worse (like him requiring her to kill an enemy of his for safe passage) but then people would not react so badly, because it is not sex. All in all he is not being nasty about it or doing something trully awful. She can easily refuse and find another way. She on the other hand does know better about sex, yet she caves in and uses her body to get across the river. She did not argue much with him either, or offer anything else. The clincher though for her is that she, being rebuffed by her lover, hires a known thug to beat him up and then stands there ENJOYING the scene. She gets pleasure out of seeing another human beaten to a pulp, and not just a stranger, but someone she loved her slighted her. I would trust the captain far more than her. At least he is open and honest and true to himself. She is not. That is my thinking anyway :) And Ivan is a looser because he cares about nothing but himself, won't help others or get involved or sacrifice himself for someone else. Sure he is honest about it, but still not nice. That is why he is worse than Sinbad.

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                    • D David Stone

                      First, read the story:

                      Once upon a time there was a young woman named Abigail. She was very much in love with a young man named Gregory, who lived on the opposite bank of a river teeming with hungry man- and woman-eating alligators. She wanted to cross the river to be with him, but unfortunately, the bridge across the river had been washed out. So Abigail went to ask Sinbad, a river boat captain, to take her across. "There's only one condition," he said. "First, you will have to sleep with me." Of course, she refused. She went to her friend Ivan, explained her situation, and asked for help. "Not me," he said. "I don't want to get involved in your problem." Seeing no other way, Abigail went back to Sinbad and met his conditions. True to his word, Sinbad then took her across the river to see Gregory. Gregory was very happy to see Abigail, and they spent an idyllic afternoon together. But when Abigail told him what she had done to get the use of Sinbad's boat, Gregory said, "What kind of woman are you to do such a thing?" And he left in a huff, saying he never wanted to see her again. Abigail went off crying and found Slug and told him everything that had happened. Slug, feeling sorry for Abigail, went and found Gregory and beat him to a pulp while Abigail looked on laughing.

                      Now, list the five characters in order, from the most despicable to the least. (1=worst, 5=best)

                      Hey, what can I say? I'm a chick magnet...a babe conductor...a logarithm for the ladies. -Strong Bad from HomeStarRunner.com Essential Tips for Web Developers

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                      1. Slug (violence) 2. Abigail (supporting violence) 3. Sinbad (taking advantage of someone in trouble) 4. Ivan (refusing help to someone in trouble) 5. Gregory (unforgiving)

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                        Colin Davies wrote: This story has been around for a while, and has been used in "sociology" type education to show how different groups find the different characters values to be different and vote for them accordingly. On a forum such as the soapbox, I think it says more about the people that take part in an attempt to rationalise such a ridiculous scenario and subsequently analyze their results. :wtf: Debbie

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                        The story was a psychological test. Hence it dabbles in the ridiculous to find the root motivations of those who take it. Plus of course you are analysing what you call idiots for doing the same thing... hmmm ;)

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                          Everyone is giving this a go, so I'll join in. Sinbad Ivan Gregory Abigail Slug So what does that tell you about me ? Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002
                          C# will attract all comers, where VB is for IT Journalists and managers - Michael P Butler 05-12-2002
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                          Christian Graus wrote: So what does that tell you about me ? That you place sexual purity over humanity, tolerance and giving natures. Though you do place humanity and tolerance over thuggery, which is good. Just my opinion, you asked :)

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                            The story was a psychological test. Hence it dabbles in the ridiculous to find the root motivations of those who take it. Plus of course you are analysing what you call idiots for doing the same thing... hmmm ;)

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                            Paul Watson wrote: Plus of course you are analysing what you call idiots for doing the same thing... hmmm Errr, re-read my reply: I didn't call them idiots! I merely queried their motivation, linear thinking and desire to make lists. That may make them anally retentive, perhaps, :rolleyes:, but not (necessarily) idiots...unless you know otherwise, of course.:~ Debbie

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                              First, read the story:

                              Once upon a time there was a young woman named Abigail. She was very much in love with a young man named Gregory, who lived on the opposite bank of a river teeming with hungry man- and woman-eating alligators. She wanted to cross the river to be with him, but unfortunately, the bridge across the river had been washed out. So Abigail went to ask Sinbad, a river boat captain, to take her across. "There's only one condition," he said. "First, you will have to sleep with me." Of course, she refused. She went to her friend Ivan, explained her situation, and asked for help. "Not me," he said. "I don't want to get involved in your problem." Seeing no other way, Abigail went back to Sinbad and met his conditions. True to his word, Sinbad then took her across the river to see Gregory. Gregory was very happy to see Abigail, and they spent an idyllic afternoon together. But when Abigail told him what she had done to get the use of Sinbad's boat, Gregory said, "What kind of woman are you to do such a thing?" And he left in a huff, saying he never wanted to see her again. Abigail went off crying and found Slug and told him everything that had happened. Slug, feeling sorry for Abigail, went and found Gregory and beat him to a pulp while Abigail looked on laughing.

                              Now, list the five characters in order, from the most despicable to the least. (1=worst, 5=best)

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                              Ivan, because he betrayed a friend in need Abigail, because she took pleasure from her lover's beating Slug, because he used violence without being even involved in the story Gregory, for its lack of comprehension Sinbad, 'cause he's the one left

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                              • D David Stone

                                First, read the story:

                                Once upon a time there was a young woman named Abigail. She was very much in love with a young man named Gregory, who lived on the opposite bank of a river teeming with hungry man- and woman-eating alligators. She wanted to cross the river to be with him, but unfortunately, the bridge across the river had been washed out. So Abigail went to ask Sinbad, a river boat captain, to take her across. "There's only one condition," he said. "First, you will have to sleep with me." Of course, she refused. She went to her friend Ivan, explained her situation, and asked for help. "Not me," he said. "I don't want to get involved in your problem." Seeing no other way, Abigail went back to Sinbad and met his conditions. True to his word, Sinbad then took her across the river to see Gregory. Gregory was very happy to see Abigail, and they spent an idyllic afternoon together. But when Abigail told him what she had done to get the use of Sinbad's boat, Gregory said, "What kind of woman are you to do such a thing?" And he left in a huff, saying he never wanted to see her again. Abigail went off crying and found Slug and told him everything that had happened. Slug, feeling sorry for Abigail, went and found Gregory and beat him to a pulp while Abigail looked on laughing.

                                Now, list the five characters in order, from the most despicable to the least. (1=worst, 5=best)

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                                1 - Sinbad 2 - Abigail 3 - Slug 4 - Ivan 5 - Gregory -Sean ---- Shag a Lizard

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                                  Are the Alligators considered to be characters ? the minion

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                                  the minion wrote: Are the Alligators considered to be characters ? Only if they ate a clock, and they still tick. And they chase after little flying boys, with fairies, the boy not the alligator. Oh wait... that was a crocodile. So sorry, no, your alligators are not characters then. Maybe if they were pigs..... *ramble* *ramble* *ramble*

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                                    1 - Sinbad 2 - Abigail 3 - Slug 4 - Ivan 5 - Gregory -Sean ---- Shag a Lizard

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                                    Sean Cundiff wrote: 1 - Sinbad Why are so many people putting Sinbad at the top of their dispecable list? Just curious.

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                                      Sean Cundiff wrote: 1 - Sinbad Why are so many people putting Sinbad at the top of their dispecable list? Just curious.

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                                      Paul Watson wrote: Why are so many people putting Sinbad at the top of their dispecable list? Just curious. My take is that he is taking advantage of an other's mis-fortune. Fill me with your knowledge, your wisdom, your coffee.

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                                        Sean Cundiff wrote: 1 - Sinbad Why are so many people putting Sinbad at the top of their dispecable list? Just curious.

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                                        1 - Sinbad ...because I believe sex should be given freely, not coerced. He's asking for something that isn't his to ask for. 2 - Abigail ...because she's a hypocrite, and I hate hypocrites. If she truly didn't want to give up her 'sexual purity' she simply should not have done it. [Hey honey, I really wanted to spend time with you this weekend, but I had to sleep with your twin sister to get a ride. Aren't you glad I'm here? :) ] 3 - Slug ...for committing an act of violence on behalf of something that did not and should not concern him. 4 - Ivan ...for not helping out when he could, thereby 'pushing' Abigail towards a decision that she should not have had to make (even though she is fully responsible for her own actions). 5 - Gregory ...what in the world did he do?? His girlfriend cheated on him and he got the crap beat out of him because he wouldn't put up with her infidelity. -Sean ---- Shag a Lizard

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                                          Christian Graus wrote: So what does that tell you about me ? That you place sexual purity over humanity, tolerance and giving natures. Though you do place humanity and tolerance over thuggery, which is good. Just my opinion, you asked :)

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                                          Paul Watson wrote: Though you do place humanity and tolerance over thuggery, which is good. :laugh: That's good....

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