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  • D David Stone

    First, read the story:

    Once upon a time there was a young woman named Abigail. She was very much in love with a young man named Gregory, who lived on the opposite bank of a river teeming with hungry man- and woman-eating alligators. She wanted to cross the river to be with him, but unfortunately, the bridge across the river had been washed out. So Abigail went to ask Sinbad, a river boat captain, to take her across. "There's only one condition," he said. "First, you will have to sleep with me." Of course, she refused. She went to her friend Ivan, explained her situation, and asked for help. "Not me," he said. "I don't want to get involved in your problem." Seeing no other way, Abigail went back to Sinbad and met his conditions. True to his word, Sinbad then took her across the river to see Gregory. Gregory was very happy to see Abigail, and they spent an idyllic afternoon together. But when Abigail told him what she had done to get the use of Sinbad's boat, Gregory said, "What kind of woman are you to do such a thing?" And he left in a huff, saying he never wanted to see her again. Abigail went off crying and found Slug and told him everything that had happened. Slug, feeling sorry for Abigail, went and found Gregory and beat him to a pulp while Abigail looked on laughing.

    Now, list the five characters in order, from the most despicable to the least. (1=worst, 5=best)

    Hey, what can I say? I'm a chick magnet...a babe conductor...a logarithm for the ladies. -Strong Bad from HomeStarRunner.com Essential Tips for Web Developers

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    Konstantin Vasserman
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    1. Slug (violence) 2. Abigail (supporting violence) 3. Sinbad (taking advantage of someone in trouble) 4. Ivan (refusing help to someone in trouble) 5. Gregory (unforgiving)

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      Colin Davies wrote: This story has been around for a while, and has been used in "sociology" type education to show how different groups find the different characters values to be different and vote for them accordingly. On a forum such as the soapbox, I think it says more about the people that take part in an attempt to rationalise such a ridiculous scenario and subsequently analyze their results. :wtf: Debbie

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      Paul Watson
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      The story was a psychological test. Hence it dabbles in the ridiculous to find the root motivations of those who take it. Plus of course you are analysing what you call idiots for doing the same thing... hmmm ;)

      Paul Watson
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      • C Christian Graus

        Everyone is giving this a go, so I'll join in. Sinbad Ivan Gregory Abigail Slug So what does that tell you about me ? Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002
        C# will attract all comers, where VB is for IT Journalists and managers - Michael P Butler 05-12-2002
        Again, you can screw up a C/C++ program just as easily as a VB program. OK, maybe not as easily, but it's certainly doable. - Jamie Nordmeyer - 15-Nov-2002

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        Paul Watson
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        Christian Graus wrote: So what does that tell you about me ? That you place sexual purity over humanity, tolerance and giving natures. Though you do place humanity and tolerance over thuggery, which is good. Just my opinion, you asked :)

        Paul Watson
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        • P Paul Watson

          The story was a psychological test. Hence it dabbles in the ridiculous to find the root motivations of those who take it. Plus of course you are analysing what you call idiots for doing the same thing... hmmm ;)

          Paul Watson
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          Paul Watson wrote: Plus of course you are analysing what you call idiots for doing the same thing... hmmm Errr, re-read my reply: I didn't call them idiots! I merely queried their motivation, linear thinking and desire to make lists. That may make them anally retentive, perhaps, :rolleyes:, but not (necessarily) idiots...unless you know otherwise, of course.:~ Debbie

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          • D David Stone

            First, read the story:

            Once upon a time there was a young woman named Abigail. She was very much in love with a young man named Gregory, who lived on the opposite bank of a river teeming with hungry man- and woman-eating alligators. She wanted to cross the river to be with him, but unfortunately, the bridge across the river had been washed out. So Abigail went to ask Sinbad, a river boat captain, to take her across. "There's only one condition," he said. "First, you will have to sleep with me." Of course, she refused. She went to her friend Ivan, explained her situation, and asked for help. "Not me," he said. "I don't want to get involved in your problem." Seeing no other way, Abigail went back to Sinbad and met his conditions. True to his word, Sinbad then took her across the river to see Gregory. Gregory was very happy to see Abigail, and they spent an idyllic afternoon together. But when Abigail told him what she had done to get the use of Sinbad's boat, Gregory said, "What kind of woman are you to do such a thing?" And he left in a huff, saying he never wanted to see her again. Abigail went off crying and found Slug and told him everything that had happened. Slug, feeling sorry for Abigail, went and found Gregory and beat him to a pulp while Abigail looked on laughing.

            Now, list the five characters in order, from the most despicable to the least. (1=worst, 5=best)

            Hey, what can I say? I'm a chick magnet...a babe conductor...a logarithm for the ladies. -Strong Bad from HomeStarRunner.com Essential Tips for Web Developers

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            KaRl
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            Ivan, because he betrayed a friend in need Abigail, because she took pleasure from her lover's beating Slug, because he used violence without being even involved in the story Gregory, for its lack of comprehension Sinbad, 'cause he's the one left

            Angels banished from heaven have no choice but to become demons Cowboy Bebop

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            • D David Stone

              First, read the story:

              Once upon a time there was a young woman named Abigail. She was very much in love with a young man named Gregory, who lived on the opposite bank of a river teeming with hungry man- and woman-eating alligators. She wanted to cross the river to be with him, but unfortunately, the bridge across the river had been washed out. So Abigail went to ask Sinbad, a river boat captain, to take her across. "There's only one condition," he said. "First, you will have to sleep with me." Of course, she refused. She went to her friend Ivan, explained her situation, and asked for help. "Not me," he said. "I don't want to get involved in your problem." Seeing no other way, Abigail went back to Sinbad and met his conditions. True to his word, Sinbad then took her across the river to see Gregory. Gregory was very happy to see Abigail, and they spent an idyllic afternoon together. But when Abigail told him what she had done to get the use of Sinbad's boat, Gregory said, "What kind of woman are you to do such a thing?" And he left in a huff, saying he never wanted to see her again. Abigail went off crying and found Slug and told him everything that had happened. Slug, feeling sorry for Abigail, went and found Gregory and beat him to a pulp while Abigail looked on laughing.

              Now, list the five characters in order, from the most despicable to the least. (1=worst, 5=best)

              Hey, what can I say? I'm a chick magnet...a babe conductor...a logarithm for the ladies. -Strong Bad from HomeStarRunner.com Essential Tips for Web Developers

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              1 - Sinbad 2 - Abigail 3 - Slug 4 - Ivan 5 - Gregory -Sean ---- Shag a Lizard

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                Are the Alligators considered to be characters ? the minion

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                the minion wrote: Are the Alligators considered to be characters ? Only if they ate a clock, and they still tick. And they chase after little flying boys, with fairies, the boy not the alligator. Oh wait... that was a crocodile. So sorry, no, your alligators are not characters then. Maybe if they were pigs..... *ramble* *ramble* *ramble*

                Paul Watson
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                Cape Town, South Africa

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                  1 - Sinbad 2 - Abigail 3 - Slug 4 - Ivan 5 - Gregory -Sean ---- Shag a Lizard

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                  Sean Cundiff wrote: 1 - Sinbad Why are so many people putting Sinbad at the top of their dispecable list? Just curious.

                  Paul Watson
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                    Sean Cundiff wrote: 1 - Sinbad Why are so many people putting Sinbad at the top of their dispecable list? Just curious.

                    Paul Watson
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                    Paul Watson wrote: Why are so many people putting Sinbad at the top of their dispecable list? Just curious. My take is that he is taking advantage of an other's mis-fortune. Fill me with your knowledge, your wisdom, your coffee.

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                      Sean Cundiff wrote: 1 - Sinbad Why are so many people putting Sinbad at the top of their dispecable list? Just curious.

                      Paul Watson
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                      Sean Cundiff
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                      1 - Sinbad ...because I believe sex should be given freely, not coerced. He's asking for something that isn't his to ask for. 2 - Abigail ...because she's a hypocrite, and I hate hypocrites. If she truly didn't want to give up her 'sexual purity' she simply should not have done it. [Hey honey, I really wanted to spend time with you this weekend, but I had to sleep with your twin sister to get a ride. Aren't you glad I'm here? :) ] 3 - Slug ...for committing an act of violence on behalf of something that did not and should not concern him. 4 - Ivan ...for not helping out when he could, thereby 'pushing' Abigail towards a decision that she should not have had to make (even though she is fully responsible for her own actions). 5 - Gregory ...what in the world did he do?? His girlfriend cheated on him and he got the crap beat out of him because he wouldn't put up with her infidelity. -Sean ---- Shag a Lizard

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                      • P Paul Watson

                        Christian Graus wrote: So what does that tell you about me ? That you place sexual purity over humanity, tolerance and giving natures. Though you do place humanity and tolerance over thuggery, which is good. Just my opinion, you asked :)

                        Paul Watson
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                        Cape Town, South Africa

                        My photoSIG portfolio[^]

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                        Paul Watson wrote: Though you do place humanity and tolerance over thuggery, which is good. :laugh: That's good....

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                        • C Chris Austin

                          Paul Watson wrote: Why are so many people putting Sinbad at the top of their dispecable list? Just curious. My take is that he is taking advantage of an other's mis-fortune. Fill me with your knowledge, your wisdom, your coffee.

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                          Chris Austin wrote: My take is that he is taking advantage of an other's mis-fortune. Isn't this called "Business" ? :rolleyes:

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                            1 - Sinbad ...because I believe sex should be given freely, not coerced. He's asking for something that isn't his to ask for. 2 - Abigail ...because she's a hypocrite, and I hate hypocrites. If she truly didn't want to give up her 'sexual purity' she simply should not have done it. [Hey honey, I really wanted to spend time with you this weekend, but I had to sleep with your twin sister to get a ride. Aren't you glad I'm here? :) ] 3 - Slug ...for committing an act of violence on behalf of something that did not and should not concern him. 4 - Ivan ...for not helping out when he could, thereby 'pushing' Abigail towards a decision that she should not have had to make (even though she is fully responsible for her own actions). 5 - Gregory ...what in the world did he do?? His girlfriend cheated on him and he got the crap beat out of him because he wouldn't put up with her infidelity. -Sean ---- Shag a Lizard

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                            peterchen
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                            Sinbad named his price. He didn't cheat in any way. Slug: he was the only one not caring about himself, but doing something he considered right for someone else. Abigail: Who says she gave it up lightly? Who says she claimed to keep her own purity over the joy of meeting Gregory? Ivan: a looser, IMO. But then: What should he have done, short of beating the crap out of Sinbad? Gregory: depending on _how she told him - wans't he just to much obsessed with "she's mine, and that includes her hole", and less with the time they were spending together? Not attacking you - just noticing how different things can be...

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                              Chris Austin wrote: My take is that he is taking advantage of an other's mis-fortune. Isn't this called "Business" ? :rolleyes:

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                              It's not the way I do business:rolleyes: Fill me with your knowledge, your wisdom, your coffee.

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