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    I am looking into XForms. Anybody out there who can share some experience? How steep is the learning curve? What rendering engine do people use? Does it do what it's supposed to do? That kind of stuff... I am in particular interested in using XForms not for web forms, but for data-driven application development similar to what mozilla.org does with XUL. TIA, Bernd

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      I am looking into XForms. Anybody out there who can share some experience? How steep is the learning curve? What rendering engine do people use? Does it do what it's supposed to do? That kind of stuff... I am in particular interested in using XForms not for web forms, but for data-driven application development similar to what mozilla.org does with XUL. TIA, Bernd

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      You might be interested in this new article at CG "Developing Applications with a User-Customizable GUI Layout" http://codeguru.earthweb.com/advancedui/XMLGUI.html[^] It looks quite interesting, well thought out and well documented. I'd be interested to know what transpires with your development effort. Neville Franks, Author of ED for Windows. www.getsoft.com Make money with our new Affilate program

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        You might be interested in this new article at CG "Developing Applications with a User-Customizable GUI Layout" http://codeguru.earthweb.com/advancedui/XMLGUI.html[^] It looks quite interesting, well thought out and well documented. I'd be interested to know what transpires with your development effort. Neville Franks, Author of ED for Windows. www.getsoft.com Make money with our new Affilate program

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        Thanks for the link. Sadly, all alternatives to XForms I have seen, including XUL and the stuff you suggest, are nowhere close to what XForm promises (and nowhere close to the level of standardazation XForms have). It remains to be seen if XForms can deliver what I need (still several hundreds of pages of W3C doc to go through), but the technology certainly is superior to what Rusan proposes. Rusan, basically, converts an .RC file into XML (well - sort of, as a short summary). On top of that, XForms offer restrictions, event handling, correlations and relations between elements, a submission protocol, ... Bernd

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          Thanks for the link. Sadly, all alternatives to XForms I have seen, including XUL and the stuff you suggest, are nowhere close to what XForm promises (and nowhere close to the level of standardazation XForms have). It remains to be seen if XForms can deliver what I need (still several hundreds of pages of W3C doc to go through), but the technology certainly is superior to what Rusan proposes. Rusan, basically, converts an .RC file into XML (well - sort of, as a short summary). On top of that, XForms offer restrictions, event handling, correlations and relations between elements, a submission protocol, ... Bernd

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          I have read a little on XUL, but not on XForms. I'm also working on a very simply App that uses MSHTML for part of it's GUI, including live data editing. I'm very impressed with this approach at implementing GUI's for certain (simple) types of applications. Are there any Windows GUI XForms implementations around? Neville Franks, Author of ED for Windows. www.getsoft.com Make money with our new Affilate program

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            I have read a little on XUL, but not on XForms. I'm also working on a very simply App that uses MSHTML for part of it's GUI, including live data editing. I'm very impressed with this approach at implementing GUI's for certain (simple) types of applications. Are there any Windows GUI XForms implementations around? Neville Franks, Author of ED for Windows. www.getsoft.com Make money with our new Affilate program

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            Try google. There are a couple of implementations, including IE plug-ins. I haven't tried any yet. In howfar any of these implementations allow for XForm-driven standard Windows dialogs (as opposed to browser-based forms) remains to be seen. I am interested in that, too. What makes XForms superior to approaches like XUL is that no or little scripting is required. XUL, appart from being tied to Gecko, still requires JavaScript for event handling and inter-control dependencies. Having just said that; W3C specifications are a dull reading and I have another ~200 pages to go on the XForms 1.0 spec. Bernd

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