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  • D David Wulff

    The War, 1994, staring Elijah Wood as stu and Kevin costner as the father. One of the most underrated films out there, which is a real shame because it is one of the best and most emotionally moving dramas you are ever likely to find (and that's held true for almost ten years now). The simple description on the IMDB site doesn't do the story justice: there is the good old coming of age drama aspect - which is in itself wonderfully done - but also the emotional effect of the father on Stu and how that in turn affects his relationship with the Lipnicki's during the big war scene towards the end. It also has some fights against racial prejudices in there too, and plays them very well indeed. The tagline "What's worth fighting for?" is potrayed most excellently, whislt always holding true to the belief that when you fight for selfish reasons you are instead fighting with yourself and destroying what good you have in your life. As I said, an excellent and very moving piece of cinema, which has been brilliantly cast with quite possibly two of the best character actors out there today (Wood and Costner). If you haven't seen it rent it now. If you have a pulse it will have you in tears more than once. http://us.imdb.com/Title?0111667[^] http://us.imdb.com/CommentsShow?0111667[^]

    David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk

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    David Wulff wrote: The War, 1994, staring Elijah Wood as stu and Kevin costner as the father. And the kid out of American Gothic... don't forget him :) This was on TV a couple of weeks ago, possibly on the channel that should not be mentioned. The missus started watching it when she went to bed and was most upset that she'd missed the end by falling asleep. So I guess I'll see it some day, like it or not ;P Paul Pleasently caving in, I come undone - Queens of the Stone Age, No One Knows

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      Looking at the thread below, I got to thinking. People often talk about classic movies and trash movies, but what about those movies that aren't really good enough to be classics but are certainly up there in the top 10%. Many movies slip under the radar for no reason I can see and nobody ever talks about them. The Negotiator would come top of the list for me, that almost is good enough to be considered classic. Stigmata, Stir of Echoes, Idle Hands, One Night at McCool's spring readily to mind. Go seems to have a small cult following but a lot of people have never heard of it. Any more thoughts? Paul Pleasently caving in, I come undone - Queens of the Stone Age, No One Knows

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      children of a lesser god Just the title is *awesome*

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      • P Paul Watson

        Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: I'll probably lose the following two days Isn't that the point? :~ ;) Oh, and What Dreams May Come was great (not just for the girls IMO) and Monsters Inc. rocks. Shrek is better though...

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        I don't mind losing a couple of days except when I have a stinking headache and feel sick for the duration! Hangovers and me do not get on. X| Shrek is excellent...I crack up everytime I see it! :laugh: Anna :rose: www.annasplace.me.uk

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          David Wulff wrote: The War, 1994, staring Elijah Wood as stu and Kevin costner as the father. And the kid out of American Gothic... don't forget him :) This was on TV a couple of weeks ago, possibly on the channel that should not be mentioned. The missus started watching it when she went to bed and was most upset that she'd missed the end by falling asleep. So I guess I'll see it some day, like it or not ;P Paul Pleasently caving in, I come undone - Queens of the Stone Age, No One Knows

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          Paul Riley wrote: And the kid out of American Gothic... don't forget him Which was that? I'm sorry, but I only follow a handful or so of actors and that rings no bells. :~ Paul Riley wrote: This was on TV a couple of weeks ago, possibly on the channel that should not be mentioned Yeah, it was on the "one channel that rules them all and in the darkness binds them". :-D Paul Riley wrote: So I guess I'll see it some day, like it or not You'll like it I hope, incase I haven't all ready told you it is pretty darned good don't ya know... :rolleyes:

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            Paul Riley wrote: And the kid out of American Gothic... don't forget him Which was that? I'm sorry, but I only follow a handful or so of actors and that rings no bells. :~ Paul Riley wrote: This was on TV a couple of weeks ago, possibly on the channel that should not be mentioned Yeah, it was on the "one channel that rules them all and in the darkness binds them". :-D Paul Riley wrote: So I guess I'll see it some day, like it or not You'll like it I hope, incase I haven't all ready told you it is pretty darned good don't ya know... :rolleyes:

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            David Wulff wrote: Which was that? I'm sorry, but I only follow a handful or so of actors and that rings no bells. Lucas Black (II) .... Ebb Lipnicki I only know this because the missus was rambling on about some kid that she recognised and couldn't figure out what from. So I went through the cast list and picked it up straight away. I loved American Gothic... big fan. Paul Pleasently caving in, I come undone - Queens of the Stone Age, No One Knows

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              children of a lesser god Just the title is *awesome*

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              peterchen wrote: children of a lesser god YES! Good call. Paul Pleasently caving in, I come undone - Queens of the Stone Age, No One Knows

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                Roger Allen wrote: The Princess Bride! I love it still. It may be sentimental crap but ahhhhh, brilliant! Great film, but again it's pretty popular. #87 on IMDb's top 200, not far below my personal favourite Blade Runner. I don't know anyone who's seen Princess Bride and not loved it. [edit]Besides, Krull has to be the mosst underrated sentimental fantasy film ( "it's not the weapon that defeats the monster, it's love" "So what? It's a f***ing cool weapon" :laugh: )[/edit] I'm trying to get some ideas for films I might just have completely missed here :laugh:. Paul Pleasently caving in, I come undone - Queens of the Stone Age, No One Knows

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                Paul Riley wrote: Besides, Krull has to be the mosst underrated sentimental fantasy film You are kidding, right??? With Sean Connery and Charlotte Rampling? (Yes, I know, I thought it might be good with them in it). That one has to be on one of my naffest films ever list. Damn, just realised that was Zardos, or something like that, I'm on the wrong thread:-O Debbie

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                  Paul Riley wrote: Besides, Krull has to be the mosst underrated sentimental fantasy film You are kidding, right??? With Sean Connery and Charlotte Rampling? (Yes, I know, I thought it might be good with them in it). That one has to be on one of my naffest films ever list. Damn, just realised that was Zardos, or something like that, I'm on the wrong thread:-O Debbie

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                  Debs wrote: You are kidding, right??? With Sean Connery and Charlotte Rampling? No, no, as you realised that's Zardoz. That's another "so bad that you can't stop laughing and that in some way makes it entertainment" movie. Krull is Ken Marshall and Lysette Anthony (and about a hundred other people you'd recognise) following their phrophecised destiny and kicking evil slayers (who are non-evil people possessed by something squealy that looks a lot like a giant woodlouse) to get to the evil monster (which is just a huge blob that roars a lot and breathes fire but is so big that it can't actually reach anything with it). Simple but surprisingly effective and has the added interest value that good guys can die. As mentioned, it does get a little too philosophical at the end, but it's still a classic, if you like that sort of dark fantasy with dodgy production values (Ladyhawke, Dark Crystal, Jason and the Argonauts) and ignore the fact that it was one of a spate of similar films that tried to ride on the coat tails of Star Wars and sadly failed. Paul Pleasently caving in, I come undone - Queens of the Stone Age, No One Knows

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                    Debs wrote: You are kidding, right??? With Sean Connery and Charlotte Rampling? No, no, as you realised that's Zardoz. That's another "so bad that you can't stop laughing and that in some way makes it entertainment" movie. Krull is Ken Marshall and Lysette Anthony (and about a hundred other people you'd recognise) following their phrophecised destiny and kicking evil slayers (who are non-evil people possessed by something squealy that looks a lot like a giant woodlouse) to get to the evil monster (which is just a huge blob that roars a lot and breathes fire but is so big that it can't actually reach anything with it). Simple but surprisingly effective and has the added interest value that good guys can die. As mentioned, it does get a little too philosophical at the end, but it's still a classic, if you like that sort of dark fantasy with dodgy production values (Ladyhawke, Dark Crystal, Jason and the Argonauts) and ignore the fact that it was one of a spate of similar films that tried to ride on the coat tails of Star Wars and sadly failed. Paul Pleasently caving in, I come undone - Queens of the Stone Age, No One Knows

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                    Paul Riley wrote: Krull is Ken Marshall and Lysette Anthony Ah I remember. All happens in a mountain that moves about a bit? Didn't make a big impression on me, I'm afraid. Debbie

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                      Paul Riley wrote: I'd never heard of that, I'll keep an eye out for it. Sounds trippy. Yeah... that's a good description. If you do watch, commit yourself to watching it all the way through, even if by the time you're half-way through it's really starting to piss you off (it may not, but fair warning...). It comes together later in a way that both compensates and justifies the earlier portions. Have fun... ;) Paul Riley wrote: Another surprisingly cool film on the screwed up end of the scale is "Last Night". Hmm, i'll watch for that then!

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                      I have to concur. Last Night was excellent despite being Canadian. J

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