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  • C Chris Austin

    I was lucky enough as a child to have a father who was always ragging mad. I managed to learn a lot from his mistakes. Now, when I find myself as angry as you sound I try to get a little exercise in. I have found sit-ups are great for such moments. If I'm at work or something similar I go for short walks around the building and find it very helpful. What Would Uncle Steve Do?. -Michael Martin

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    When I was a kid I had a bad temperament. When I got really mad, I just snapped. I've broken way too many things as a kid. :| I don't know why my parents didn't give me away for adoption! ;) I've become a lot calmer since then (and more economically aware too ;)) These days I make fists, and occasionally I bang the desk with them (happens only when I do Java). Chris Austin wrote: I have found sit-ups are great for such moments. If I'm at work or something similar I go for short walks around the building and find it very helpful. If I can think rationally when the time comes, I'll try something like that. Thanks for the tip! -- Ignorant people upsets me.

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      :omg::wtf: I was beginning to think that he must've had a bad day or something and I'm just being more sensitve than normal. But I see now that my first impression of him was right. -- Ignorant people upsets me.

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      Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: I was beginning to think that he must've had a bad day or something and I'm just being more sensitve than normal. No. It's just some people have no communication skills in addition to their extreme bigotry. There are people here who hold some very radical views, but at least they have decency not to resort to personal attacks... "Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent." Isaac Asimov Personal attacks in forums are the equivalent of violence in the real life.

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      • K Konstantin Vasserman

        Brad Jennings wrote: it feels good to drop an ignorant fool's self esteem down a notch or two I don't think it is possible. I think that people like that are so arrogant and ignorant that they are incapable of accepting anything that suggests that they might be wrong. The logic does not apply. The only thing that does apply is blind belief that they are correct without any regard for arguments and evidence and without any respect for the thought process...

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        Brad Jennings
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        You're probably right but it still feels good to flame them anyway. I just read the post that Jörgen was talking about and that guy is a total ass. This makes 2 such people that I know of on CP but, all things considered, I'm really surprised how few members are like this. Brad Jennings "if the golden arches shut shop, where else are the VB people going to get work." - Colin Davies

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          When I was a kid I had a bad temperament. When I got really mad, I just snapped. I've broken way too many things as a kid. :| I don't know why my parents didn't give me away for adoption! ;) I've become a lot calmer since then (and more economically aware too ;)) These days I make fists, and occasionally I bang the desk with them (happens only when I do Java). Chris Austin wrote: I have found sit-ups are great for such moments. If I'm at work or something similar I go for short walks around the building and find it very helpful. If I can think rationally when the time comes, I'll try something like that. Thanks for the tip! -- Ignorant people upsets me.

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          When I was a kid I had a bad temperament. Same here man, I'm surprised that my parents didn't send me to military school. I used to get ragefully angry at the smallest thing and got into a lot of fights at school. I think I finally started trying to control my anger when I realized how much mental pain I was putting my parents through, especially my mother. Brad Jennings "if the golden arches shut shop, where else are the VB people going to get work." - Colin Davies

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            Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: I generally tell them what I think of them and walk away. I did. But I'm so angry! :mad: I felt like breaking something. I don't want to be angry.. Frankly, it scares me that I became this angry. :~ -- Ignorant people upsets me.

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            Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: But I'm so angry! Why would you let a stranger have this much control over you? "Hey, all I have to do is push this button, and Jorgen will go ballistic! Then everything he posts afterward will sound stupid and unreasoned, and I'll look like a genius in comparison!" Geez! Don't let yourself be a puppet on a string jiggled by a fool! Hell, I disagree with almost everything you post, but I'm not about to let it make me be angry. Opinions are like assholes - everybody has one, and they all stink. If it weren't for differences in opinion, we wouldn't have horse races. A person who resorts to personal insults in lieu of a reasoned argument generally does so because either 1) he hasn't got a reasoned argument, or 2) his opponent is incapable of understanding his logic. In both cases, there is no value in continuing the discussion. And there is certainly nothing gained by you feeling hurt or angry by it. Relax, forget it happenned, and enjoy your day. Nobody's opinion is worth this much grief.:-D Nobody wants to read a diary by someone who has not seen the shadow of Bubba on the prison shower wall in front of them!
            Paul Watson, on BLOGS and privacy - 1/16/2003

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              You're probably right but it still feels good to flame them anyway. I just read the post that Jörgen was talking about and that guy is a total ass. This makes 2 such people that I know of on CP but, all things considered, I'm really surprised how few members are like this. Brad Jennings "if the golden arches shut shop, where else are the VB people going to get work." - Colin Davies

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              Brad Jennings wrote: This makes 2 such people that I know of on CP Is there a prize for guessing who the other one is?:-D Nobody wants to read a diary by someone who has not seen the shadow of Bubba on the prison shower wall in front of them!
              Paul Watson, on BLOGS and privacy - 1/16/2003

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              • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

                When I was a kid I had a bad temperament. When I got really mad, I just snapped. I've broken way too many things as a kid. :| I don't know why my parents didn't give me away for adoption! ;) I've become a lot calmer since then (and more economically aware too ;)) These days I make fists, and occasionally I bang the desk with them (happens only when I do Java). Chris Austin wrote: I have found sit-ups are great for such moments. If I'm at work or something similar I go for short walks around the building and find it very helpful. If I can think rationally when the time comes, I'll try something like that. Thanks for the tip! -- Ignorant people upsets me.

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                Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: If I can think rationally when the time comes, I'll try something like that. Thanks for the tip! It works for a lot of people. Rage is caused by a feeling of impotence; no, not that kind - the frustration of being helpless to change the sitution. It's common in kids, because they really are powerless. Adults run things, and no matter how right they may be, the adults always win. Most people outgrow the feeling when they mature, as they learn that they really do control things to a large extent. But some people have residual anger that boils over easily as a programmed response, rather than a reasoned one. Channelling that feeling into a physically exhausting activity such as exercise helps many people with anger management challenges. Another that I find helpful is the realization that no one can control all of what happens to them, but everyone can (and should, I think) control how they choose to respond to it. That approach defines the difference between the rational and the irrational being. An irrational being lashes out, helpless, against a persecutor; a rational being plans for the day when the persecutor will (inevitably) make a mistake and the odds are in his favor. Vengeance is the Lord's, if I leave him any pieces... Nobody wants to read a diary by someone who has not seen the shadow of Bubba on the prison shower wall in front of them!
                Paul Watson, on BLOGS and privacy - 1/16/2003

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                  Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: If I can think rationally when the time comes, I'll try something like that. Thanks for the tip! It works for a lot of people. Rage is caused by a feeling of impotence; no, not that kind - the frustration of being helpless to change the sitution. It's common in kids, because they really are powerless. Adults run things, and no matter how right they may be, the adults always win. Most people outgrow the feeling when they mature, as they learn that they really do control things to a large extent. But some people have residual anger that boils over easily as a programmed response, rather than a reasoned one. Channelling that feeling into a physically exhausting activity such as exercise helps many people with anger management challenges. Another that I find helpful is the realization that no one can control all of what happens to them, but everyone can (and should, I think) control how they choose to respond to it. That approach defines the difference between the rational and the irrational being. An irrational being lashes out, helpless, against a persecutor; a rational being plans for the day when the persecutor will (inevitably) make a mistake and the odds are in his favor. Vengeance is the Lord's, if I leave him any pieces... Nobody wants to read a diary by someone who has not seen the shadow of Bubba on the prison shower wall in front of them!
                  Paul Watson, on BLOGS and privacy - 1/16/2003

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                  Roger Wright wrote: the frustration of being helpless to change the sitution researchers have found that people with little control over their own lives (people in menial jobs, those stuck without jobs, etc.) have much higher levels of cortisol. cortisol is a steriodal hormone associated with long-term stress. it interferes with the immune system, dims the senses and generally messes with your body in adverse ways - over the long term. "Chronically unhappy nurses have more cold sores than others who also carry the virus. People with anxious personalities have more outbreaks of genital herpes than sunny optimists. As West Point, the students most likely to catch mononucleosis, and the ones most likely to get a severe illness from it if they do, are the ones who are most anxious and pressured by their work. Those who care for Alzheimer's patients have fewer disease-fighting T lymphocytes [...] than expected. Those who lived near Three Mile Island at the time of its accident had more cancers than expected three years later, not because they were exposed to radiation (they weren't), but because their cortisol levels had risen, reducing the response of their immune system to cancer cells." (Matt Ridley, Genome) Also, somewhere in that book (i think), it says that by merely smiling, you don't even have to mean it, you can trigger a decrease in your cortisol level. try it - it's a fantastic way to relax quickly. just smile and take a deep breath. -c


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                    Brad Jennings wrote: This makes 2 such people that I know of on CP Is there a prize for guessing who the other one is?:-D Nobody wants to read a diary by someone who has not seen the shadow of Bubba on the prison shower wall in front of them!
                    Paul Watson, on BLOGS and privacy - 1/16/2003

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                    :-D Brad Jennings "if the golden arches shut shop, where else are the VB people going to get work." - Colin Davies

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                      Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: If I can think rationally when the time comes, I'll try something like that. Thanks for the tip! It works for a lot of people. Rage is caused by a feeling of impotence; no, not that kind - the frustration of being helpless to change the sitution. It's common in kids, because they really are powerless. Adults run things, and no matter how right they may be, the adults always win. Most people outgrow the feeling when they mature, as they learn that they really do control things to a large extent. But some people have residual anger that boils over easily as a programmed response, rather than a reasoned one. Channelling that feeling into a physically exhausting activity such as exercise helps many people with anger management challenges. Another that I find helpful is the realization that no one can control all of what happens to them, but everyone can (and should, I think) control how they choose to respond to it. That approach defines the difference between the rational and the irrational being. An irrational being lashes out, helpless, against a persecutor; a rational being plans for the day when the persecutor will (inevitably) make a mistake and the odds are in his favor. Vengeance is the Lord's, if I leave him any pieces... Nobody wants to read a diary by someone who has not seen the shadow of Bubba on the prison shower wall in front of them!
                      Paul Watson, on BLOGS and privacy - 1/16/2003

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                      Channelling that feeling into a physically exhausting activity such as exercise helps many people with anger management challenges. Maybe that's why I straightened up when my father stopped whipping me and started putting me to strenuous yard work. I hadn't thought that maybe he was trying to help me channel my anger. Well, whatever happened, I'm a pretty laid back fellow now :) Brad Jennings "if the golden arches shut shop, where else are the VB people going to get work." - Colin Davies

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                      • K Konstantin Vasserman

                        I've just looked up the thread you are referring to... Funny thing is the same person pissed me off last night... http://www.codeproject.com/lounge.asp?msg=401824#xx401824xx[^] I guess, some arrogant bigots just can't help themselves...

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                        Konstantin Vasserman wrote: Funny thing is the same person pissed me off last night One [^] of his messages drove me crazy It must be some kind of sport for him.


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                        • B Brad Jennings

                          You're probably right but it still feels good to flame them anyway. I just read the post that Jörgen was talking about and that guy is a total ass. This makes 2 such people that I know of on CP but, all things considered, I'm really surprised how few members are like this. Brad Jennings "if the golden arches shut shop, where else are the VB people going to get work." - Colin Davies

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                          Brad Jennings wrote: This makes 2 such people that I know of on CP but Yes, I agree, Roger is really unbearable! :laugh:;)


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                            Konstantin Vasserman wrote: Funny thing is the same person pissed me off last night One [^] of his messages drove me crazy It must be some kind of sport for him.


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                            Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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                            You mean the comment about dictors and France? I can understand the offence - it did seem more than a jibe...there was real venom there. :( Anna :rose: www.annasplace.me.uk

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                            • C Chris Austin

                              I was lucky enough as a child to have a father who was always ragging mad. I managed to learn a lot from his mistakes. Now, when I find myself as angry as you sound I try to get a little exercise in. I have found sit-ups are great for such moments. If I'm at work or something similar I go for short walks around the building and find it very helpful. What Would Uncle Steve Do?. -Michael Martin

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                              Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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                              I was _un_lucky enough as a child to have a fatherwife who was always ragging mad. :~ My dad was the opposite (unless faced with beaurocracy and incompetance - guess where I get my bolshy streak from? :laugh: ) I think I've learnt a lot from the experience though - I can see past people's anger now. It's still very painful though, and probably always will be. :( Anna :rose: www.annasplace.me.uk

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                                You mean the comment about dictors and France? I can understand the offence - it did seem more than a jibe...there was real venom there. :( Anna :rose: www.annasplace.me.uk

                                "Be yourself - not what others think you should be"
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                                That's true my national pride was hit, however it's something else which eagered me the most. IMO, the most unbearable is the twisting of History to fit political theories. It's the same process as the one used by the negationists (I call negationists the ones pretending gas chambers never existed).


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