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  • P Paul Watson

    A women in a queue today came within a hairs breath of getting a thumping from me. I don't hit women, but she came damned close to changing my mind. Basically she said how this Columbia disaster was a good thing for the fight against wasting money on space exploration (because world starvation could be cuerd by diverting the "trillions of trillions of dollars" to children in Africa rather.) Not only is she totally ignorant because so far nothing indicates it was an avoidable problem (i.e. the Challenger was a fault that is easily usable to discredit the space industry, this is not) but she has the audacit... the myopi... the fucking insaness to use the death of 7 people to further her ignorant cause. That she then walked out of the shop and into a brand new BMW made me even more enraged. A mother of three starving kids seeing the money spent on space I could sort of understand being anti it. But not a farking hypocrite who drives a BMW, has a $1mil house, eats more caviar pound for pound than maize meal the starving children her heart bleeds for and probably regularly uses technology derived from space research. So you see, I wanted to thump her. So, I was just wondering: How long before the anti-spacers come out and use this disaster against NASA and its funding? I give it 2 days. Hopefully the continuining recovery of debri will keep their mouths shut for a bit longer, but they will eventually bleet.

    Paul Watson
    Bluegrass
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    Roger Wright wrote: Using a feather is kinky; using the whole chicken is perverted!

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    While striking a woman is morally reprehensible to me, executing one of such blatant stupidity should be viewed not as a crime, but as a laudable effort to cleanse the gene pool. A public reward should be offered for providing this service to humanity. Nobody wants to read a diary by someone who has not seen the shadow of Bubba on the prison shower wall in front of them!
    Paul Watson, on BLOGS and privacy - 1/16/2003

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      Paul Watson wrote: I don't hit women I do, but in this case i doubt it would have helped. We all like the good life, but few of us would care to admit (to ourselves even) that much of the money we spend on even the small luxuries in life could be doing a lot more good in someone else's hands. It must be hard for her, trying to justify her own prosperity while others starve... The thought of others doing less with more must be a comfort. Paul Watson wrote: I give it 2 days. Oooh, a pool - my buck is on 60 hours, but then i'm an optimist. What indicator are you looking for?

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      Shog9 wrote: The thought of others doing less with more must be a comfort. Oh but Shog! She attends charity events and even had some previously disadvantaged kids over to her house the other day for supper. Really, she is saving souls! X| Shog9 wrote: What indicator are you looking for? Err, ok, I just wanted to rant about bees with itches like her. So I never thought this far ahead.. ummm.. an indicator... like litmus... dropping them in acid might be a good idea... but no, then the anti-acid people will be given ammunition.. no... hmm.. indicatorrrrr... doghnuttttsss... damned Tab key never gives me any Tab... wheres that any key now? Baarrrtt!!!... doogghhnnutttss... Indicator: First official press release with the words "We told you so" and "Columbia" from any organisation with a previous anti-space stance. Or something like that. Anything official I guess.

      Paul Watson
      Bluegrass
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      Roger Wright wrote: Using a feather is kinky; using the whole chicken is perverted!

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        A women in a queue today came within a hairs breath of getting a thumping from me. I don't hit women, but she came damned close to changing my mind. Basically she said how this Columbia disaster was a good thing for the fight against wasting money on space exploration (because world starvation could be cuerd by diverting the "trillions of trillions of dollars" to children in Africa rather.) Not only is she totally ignorant because so far nothing indicates it was an avoidable problem (i.e. the Challenger was a fault that is easily usable to discredit the space industry, this is not) but she has the audacit... the myopi... the fucking insaness to use the death of 7 people to further her ignorant cause. That she then walked out of the shop and into a brand new BMW made me even more enraged. A mother of three starving kids seeing the money spent on space I could sort of understand being anti it. But not a farking hypocrite who drives a BMW, has a $1mil house, eats more caviar pound for pound than maize meal the starving children her heart bleeds for and probably regularly uses technology derived from space research. So you see, I wanted to thump her. So, I was just wondering: How long before the anti-spacers come out and use this disaster against NASA and its funding? I give it 2 days. Hopefully the continuining recovery of debri will keep their mouths shut for a bit longer, but they will eventually bleet.

        Paul Watson
        Bluegrass
        Cape Town, South Africa

        Roger Wright wrote: Using a feather is kinky; using the whole chicken is perverted!

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        I went to a few places yesterday: a few stores, some work on my car, got a haircut and so on. Everywhere people were talking about the tragedy. There were 2 main themes: 1. god this and god that... 2. They have no business flying into space in the first place because there are still unsolved problems on the earth... Both of the views really make me angry. I've got an impression that majority of the people think that way. Maybe it's time for me to move somewhere... Can someone take me to ISS and leave me there? I am sick of stupid people.

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        • P Paul Watson

          A women in a queue today came within a hairs breath of getting a thumping from me. I don't hit women, but she came damned close to changing my mind. Basically she said how this Columbia disaster was a good thing for the fight against wasting money on space exploration (because world starvation could be cuerd by diverting the "trillions of trillions of dollars" to children in Africa rather.) Not only is she totally ignorant because so far nothing indicates it was an avoidable problem (i.e. the Challenger was a fault that is easily usable to discredit the space industry, this is not) but she has the audacit... the myopi... the fucking insaness to use the death of 7 people to further her ignorant cause. That she then walked out of the shop and into a brand new BMW made me even more enraged. A mother of three starving kids seeing the money spent on space I could sort of understand being anti it. But not a farking hypocrite who drives a BMW, has a $1mil house, eats more caviar pound for pound than maize meal the starving children her heart bleeds for and probably regularly uses technology derived from space research. So you see, I wanted to thump her. So, I was just wondering: How long before the anti-spacers come out and use this disaster against NASA and its funding? I give it 2 days. Hopefully the continuining recovery of debri will keep their mouths shut for a bit longer, but they will eventually bleet.

          Paul Watson
          Bluegrass
          Cape Town, South Africa

          Roger Wright wrote: Using a feather is kinky; using the whole chicken is perverted!

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          Paul Watson wrote: So you see, I wanted to thump her. Lets edit that eh! So you see, I wanted to hump her. This will be a lot better, and you can hump some sense into her while you are about it. Regardz Colin J Davies

          Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin

          I'm guessing the concept of a 2 hour movie showing two guys eating a meal and talking struck them as 'foreign' Rob Manderson wrote:

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          • P Paul Watson

            A women in a queue today came within a hairs breath of getting a thumping from me. I don't hit women, but she came damned close to changing my mind. Basically she said how this Columbia disaster was a good thing for the fight against wasting money on space exploration (because world starvation could be cuerd by diverting the "trillions of trillions of dollars" to children in Africa rather.) Not only is she totally ignorant because so far nothing indicates it was an avoidable problem (i.e. the Challenger was a fault that is easily usable to discredit the space industry, this is not) but she has the audacit... the myopi... the fucking insaness to use the death of 7 people to further her ignorant cause. That she then walked out of the shop and into a brand new BMW made me even more enraged. A mother of three starving kids seeing the money spent on space I could sort of understand being anti it. But not a farking hypocrite who drives a BMW, has a $1mil house, eats more caviar pound for pound than maize meal the starving children her heart bleeds for and probably regularly uses technology derived from space research. So you see, I wanted to thump her. So, I was just wondering: How long before the anti-spacers come out and use this disaster against NASA and its funding? I give it 2 days. Hopefully the continuining recovery of debri will keep their mouths shut for a bit longer, but they will eventually bleet.

            Paul Watson
            Bluegrass
            Cape Town, South Africa

            Roger Wright wrote: Using a feather is kinky; using the whole chicken is perverted!

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            She's relying on the government to do what she should be doing herself. In othere words, if she wants to make a difference in someone's life, she should do it herself.

            Jason Henderson
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              I went to a few places yesterday: a few stores, some work on my car, got a haircut and so on. Everywhere people were talking about the tragedy. There were 2 main themes: 1. god this and god that... 2. They have no business flying into space in the first place because there are still unsolved problems on the earth... Both of the views really make me angry. I've got an impression that majority of the people think that way. Maybe it's time for me to move somewhere... Can someone take me to ISS and leave me there? I am sick of stupid people.

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              Konstantin Vasserman wrote: I've got an impression that majority of the people think that way. Holy crap, serious? So the average Americans apathy for anything outside of the borders of America reaches even to space. That is sad to hear. Bet they get all excited when things blow up though.

              Paul Watson
              Bluegrass
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              Roger Wright wrote: Using a feather is kinky; using the whole chicken is perverted!

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                Paul Watson wrote: So you see, I wanted to thump her. Lets edit that eh! So you see, I wanted to hump her. This will be a lot better, and you can hump some sense into her while you are about it. Regardz Colin J Davies

                Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin

                I'm guessing the concept of a 2 hour movie showing two guys eating a meal and talking struck them as 'foreign' Rob Manderson wrote:

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                Colin Davies wrote: This will be a lot better, and you can hump some sense into her while you are about it. Thanks, but I don't want to catch whatever she has got. :|

                Paul Watson
                Bluegrass
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                Roger Wright wrote: Using a feather is kinky; using the whole chicken is perverted!

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                • P Paul Watson

                  A women in a queue today came within a hairs breath of getting a thumping from me. I don't hit women, but she came damned close to changing my mind. Basically she said how this Columbia disaster was a good thing for the fight against wasting money on space exploration (because world starvation could be cuerd by diverting the "trillions of trillions of dollars" to children in Africa rather.) Not only is she totally ignorant because so far nothing indicates it was an avoidable problem (i.e. the Challenger was a fault that is easily usable to discredit the space industry, this is not) but she has the audacit... the myopi... the fucking insaness to use the death of 7 people to further her ignorant cause. That she then walked out of the shop and into a brand new BMW made me even more enraged. A mother of three starving kids seeing the money spent on space I could sort of understand being anti it. But not a farking hypocrite who drives a BMW, has a $1mil house, eats more caviar pound for pound than maize meal the starving children her heart bleeds for and probably regularly uses technology derived from space research. So you see, I wanted to thump her. So, I was just wondering: How long before the anti-spacers come out and use this disaster against NASA and its funding? I give it 2 days. Hopefully the continuining recovery of debri will keep their mouths shut for a bit longer, but they will eventually bleet.

                  Paul Watson
                  Bluegrass
                  Cape Town, South Africa

                  Roger Wright wrote: Using a feather is kinky; using the whole chicken is perverted!

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                  Paul Watson wrote: That she then walked out of the shop and into a brand new BMW made me even more enraged. :omg::wtf: That is truly classic stuff. Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002
                  C# will attract all comers, where VB is for IT Journalists and managers - Michael P Butler 05-12-2002
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                  • P Paul Watson

                    Konstantin Vasserman wrote: I've got an impression that majority of the people think that way. Holy crap, serious? So the average Americans apathy for anything outside of the borders of America reaches even to space. That is sad to hear. Bet they get all excited when things blow up though.

                    Paul Watson
                    Bluegrass
                    Cape Town, South Africa

                    Roger Wright wrote: Using a feather is kinky; using the whole chicken is perverted!

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                    Paul Watson wrote: Bet they get all excited when things blow up though. No. Everyone is upset and sad and feel very bad for what happened. It's just majority of the people don't even understand what it's all about. They don't know why we fly to space. The don't know much of anything outside of the bible that was "stamped" into their heads from childhood. Hell, most of them don't even know the bible...

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                    • P Paul Watson

                      A women in a queue today came within a hairs breath of getting a thumping from me. I don't hit women, but she came damned close to changing my mind. Basically she said how this Columbia disaster was a good thing for the fight against wasting money on space exploration (because world starvation could be cuerd by diverting the "trillions of trillions of dollars" to children in Africa rather.) Not only is she totally ignorant because so far nothing indicates it was an avoidable problem (i.e. the Challenger was a fault that is easily usable to discredit the space industry, this is not) but she has the audacit... the myopi... the fucking insaness to use the death of 7 people to further her ignorant cause. That she then walked out of the shop and into a brand new BMW made me even more enraged. A mother of three starving kids seeing the money spent on space I could sort of understand being anti it. But not a farking hypocrite who drives a BMW, has a $1mil house, eats more caviar pound for pound than maize meal the starving children her heart bleeds for and probably regularly uses technology derived from space research. So you see, I wanted to thump her. So, I was just wondering: How long before the anti-spacers come out and use this disaster against NASA and its funding? I give it 2 days. Hopefully the continuining recovery of debri will keep their mouths shut for a bit longer, but they will eventually bleet.

                      Paul Watson
                      Bluegrass
                      Cape Town, South Africa

                      Roger Wright wrote: Using a feather is kinky; using the whole chicken is perverted!

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                      Well, I can not quite recent figures but some time back I saw figures that showed when you look at spawned off industry (like the PC Market) NASA has actually made more revenue for the US than it cost. Now throw in the lives that have been improved with the technologies and it is one of the clearly good things the US Gov has promoted IMO. "I will find a new sig someday."

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                      • K Konstantin Vasserman

                        I went to a few places yesterday: a few stores, some work on my car, got a haircut and so on. Everywhere people were talking about the tragedy. There were 2 main themes: 1. god this and god that... 2. They have no business flying into space in the first place because there are still unsolved problems on the earth... Both of the views really make me angry. I've got an impression that majority of the people think that way. Maybe it's time for me to move somewhere... Can someone take me to ISS and leave me there? I am sick of stupid people.

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                        Konstantin Vasserman wrote: 2. They have no business flying into space in the first place because there are still unsolved problems on the earth... Funny, I had the exact opposite experiance. As I sat down for my lonely dinner I heard a lot of people opining that it should be fixed asap and how nasa needs more money. Konstantin Vasserman wrote: 1. god this and god that... LOL! What part of the country are you in? I hope it's not somewhere in the deep south like Mississippi. If so get out before it's too late. :) "Veni, Vidi, Booyah!" - Ceasar

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                          Konstantin Vasserman wrote: 2. They have no business flying into space in the first place because there are still unsolved problems on the earth... Funny, I had the exact opposite experiance. As I sat down for my lonely dinner I heard a lot of people opining that it should be fixed asap and how nasa needs more money. Konstantin Vasserman wrote: 1. god this and god that... LOL! What part of the country are you in? I hope it's not somewhere in the deep south like Mississippi. If so get out before it's too late. :) "Veni, Vidi, Booyah!" - Ceasar

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                          Chris Austin wrote: heard a lot of people opining that it should be fixed asap and how nasa needs more money. I don't know about people in media coverage. I am just talking about people on the "streets". Maybe I just got very unlucky... Chris Austin wrote: What part of the country are you in? I hope it's not somewhere in the deep south like Mississippi. If so get out before it's too late. :) I am in Ohio. But it does not matter where I live - just listen to Bush's speech yesterday. There is word "god" in every other sentence...

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                            Chris Austin wrote: heard a lot of people opining that it should be fixed asap and how nasa needs more money. I don't know about people in media coverage. I am just talking about people on the "streets". Maybe I just got very unlucky... Chris Austin wrote: What part of the country are you in? I hope it's not somewhere in the deep south like Mississippi. If so get out before it's too late. :) I am in Ohio. But it does not matter where I live - just listen to Bush's speech yesterday. There is word "god" in every other sentence...

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                            Konstantin Vasserman wrote: Maybe I just got very unlucky... You must have. I was out at a resturant when I heard this stuff. Konstantin Vasserman wrote: just listen to Bush's speech yesterday LOL!!! Again, when I heard he was going to give a speech I poped in "Chasing Amy" and watched that. I have been boycotting his speeches because when he talks I get pissed off. "Veni, Vidi, Booyah!" - Ceasar

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                              Konstantin Vasserman wrote: Maybe I just got very unlucky... You must have. I was out at a resturant when I heard this stuff. Konstantin Vasserman wrote: just listen to Bush's speech yesterday LOL!!! Again, when I heard he was going to give a speech I poped in "Chasing Amy" and watched that. I have been boycotting his speeches because when he talks I get pissed off. "Veni, Vidi, Booyah!" - Ceasar

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                              Chris Austin wrote: I was out at a resturant when I heard this stuff. Was it an expensive restaurant? ;) Chris Austin wrote: I have been boycotting his speeches because when he talks I get pissed off. I need to learn from you and stop watching news all together. Every time I watch news I get pissed off.

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                                She's relying on the government to do what she should be doing herself. In othere words, if she wants to make a difference in someone's life, she should do it herself.

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                                I just voted a 5, excellent comment. And your quote from Ghandi (which I like) provides an interesting comment on the Ghandi thread above. Elaine The tigress is here :-D

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                                • P Paul Watson

                                  Colin Davies wrote: This will be a lot better, and you can hump some sense into her while you are about it. Thanks, but I don't want to catch whatever she has got. :|

                                  Paul Watson
                                  Bluegrass
                                  Cape Town, South Africa

                                  Roger Wright wrote: Using a feather is kinky; using the whole chicken is perverted!

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                                  Paul Watson wrote: whatever she has got. Stupidity Transmitted Disease?:suss: Some ideas are so stupid that only an intellectual could have thought of them - George Orwell

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                                  • P Paul Watson

                                    A women in a queue today came within a hairs breath of getting a thumping from me. I don't hit women, but she came damned close to changing my mind. Basically she said how this Columbia disaster was a good thing for the fight against wasting money on space exploration (because world starvation could be cuerd by diverting the "trillions of trillions of dollars" to children in Africa rather.) Not only is she totally ignorant because so far nothing indicates it was an avoidable problem (i.e. the Challenger was a fault that is easily usable to discredit the space industry, this is not) but she has the audacit... the myopi... the fucking insaness to use the death of 7 people to further her ignorant cause. That she then walked out of the shop and into a brand new BMW made me even more enraged. A mother of three starving kids seeing the money spent on space I could sort of understand being anti it. But not a farking hypocrite who drives a BMW, has a $1mil house, eats more caviar pound for pound than maize meal the starving children her heart bleeds for and probably regularly uses technology derived from space research. So you see, I wanted to thump her. So, I was just wondering: How long before the anti-spacers come out and use this disaster against NASA and its funding? I give it 2 days. Hopefully the continuining recovery of debri will keep their mouths shut for a bit longer, but they will eventually bleet.

                                    Paul Watson
                                    Bluegrass
                                    Cape Town, South Africa

                                    Roger Wright wrote: Using a feather is kinky; using the whole chicken is perverted!

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                                    The Earth first argument against space exploration is pathetically stupid. To wait until every child on the planet is fat and happy before we can go exploring is to say that we will never go exploring because every child will never be fat and happy. Still, I think the U.S. does need to totally rethink its objectives in space. As long as the government is running the space program it will probably continue to be a waste of money and lives. Private coorporations wishing to exploit and develope space based resources should be given sufficient tax incentives for doing so. If there are sound fiscal reasons for putting people into space, than private companies should assume the risks. If those 7 gallent public employees aboard Columbia had just been so many capitalists pigs coming back after raping the moon, nobody would have cared or noticed their deaths. Government sponsered space exploration will always be done for the wrong reasons. For example, to even consider sending people to Mars before we have established a functional lunar colony is ludicrous. Yet, the government would do that just to leave a foot print and a flag. For the expense we have poured into that stupid "space station" we could have already had people permanently on the moon. So I guess I come down on the defund NASA side, but I'm not at all "anti-spacer". I hope they defund it soon and let private enterprise take us into the next frontier. "Any clod can have the facts, but having opinions is an art." Charles McCabe, San Francisco Chronicle

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                                      A women in a queue today came within a hairs breath of getting a thumping from me. I don't hit women, but she came damned close to changing my mind. Basically she said how this Columbia disaster was a good thing for the fight against wasting money on space exploration (because world starvation could be cuerd by diverting the "trillions of trillions of dollars" to children in Africa rather.) Not only is she totally ignorant because so far nothing indicates it was an avoidable problem (i.e. the Challenger was a fault that is easily usable to discredit the space industry, this is not) but she has the audacit... the myopi... the fucking insaness to use the death of 7 people to further her ignorant cause. That she then walked out of the shop and into a brand new BMW made me even more enraged. A mother of three starving kids seeing the money spent on space I could sort of understand being anti it. But not a farking hypocrite who drives a BMW, has a $1mil house, eats more caviar pound for pound than maize meal the starving children her heart bleeds for and probably regularly uses technology derived from space research. So you see, I wanted to thump her. So, I was just wondering: How long before the anti-spacers come out and use this disaster against NASA and its funding? I give it 2 days. Hopefully the continuining recovery of debri will keep their mouths shut for a bit longer, but they will eventually bleet.

                                      Paul Watson
                                      Bluegrass
                                      Cape Town, South Africa

                                      Roger Wright wrote: Using a feather is kinky; using the whole chicken is perverted!

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                                      I don't blame you one bit for feeling that way Paul. :rose: I'd have told her what I thought of her. ;) Anna :rose: www.annasplace.me.uk

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                                        Chris Austin wrote: heard a lot of people opining that it should be fixed asap and how nasa needs more money. I don't know about people in media coverage. I am just talking about people on the "streets". Maybe I just got very unlucky... Chris Austin wrote: What part of the country are you in? I hope it's not somewhere in the deep south like Mississippi. If so get out before it's too late. :) I am in Ohio. But it does not matter where I live - just listen to Bush's speech yesterday. There is word "god" in every other sentence...

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                                        Konstantin Vasserman wrote: I am in Ohio Which part? I live in Indiana and have found it to be about the most religious place I have ever lived, and that includes Oklahoma, Alabama and Utah. I doubt Ohio would be much different. I thought Bush gave an appropriate speech. However, I can't help but be amused at how the press goes on about it. It wasn't that good. Although I'm not overtly religious, I don't have a problem with religion myself. I wouldn't think any seriously non-religious person would find the U.S. a comfortable place to live. Although I suppose its more comfortable than the former Soviet Union, antheism or not, eh? "Any clod can have the facts, but having opinions is an art." Charles McCabe, San Francisco Chronicle

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                                          Konstantin Vasserman wrote: I am in Ohio Which part? I live in Indiana and have found it to be about the most religious place I have ever lived, and that includes Oklahoma, Alabama and Utah. I doubt Ohio would be much different. I thought Bush gave an appropriate speech. However, I can't help but be amused at how the press goes on about it. It wasn't that good. Although I'm not overtly religious, I don't have a problem with religion myself. I wouldn't think any seriously non-religious person would find the U.S. a comfortable place to live. Although I suppose its more comfortable than the former Soviet Union, antheism or not, eh? "Any clod can have the facts, but having opinions is an art." Charles McCabe, San Francisco Chronicle

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                                          Konstantin Vasserman
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                                          Stan Shannon wrote: Which part? Cincinnati area. Stan Shannon wrote: I live in Indiana and have found it to be about the most religious place I have ever lived, and that includes Oklahoma, Alabama and Utah. I doubt Ohio would be much different. I haven't lived in other states for long periods of time, but from what I hear from others you are correct and Ohio and Indiana are about the same as far as religion concern. Stan Shannon wrote: I wouldn't think any seriously non-religious person would find the U.S. a comfortable place to live. Although I suppose its more comfortable than the former Soviet Union, antheism or not, eh? It all depends on what you are looking for. Personal belief or lack thereof were not one of the decisive factors for my move.

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