Using Disaster

Paul Watson

Konstantin Vasserman wrote: I've got an impression that majority of the people think that way. Holy crap, serious? So the average Americans apathy for anything outside of the borders of America reaches even to space. That is sad to hear. Bet they get all excited when things blow up though.

Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South Africa

Roger Wright wrote: Using a feather is kinky; using the whole chicken is perverted!

Paul Watson

Colin Davies wrote: This will be a lot better, and you can hump some sense into her while you are about it. Thanks, but I don't want to catch whatever she has got. :|

Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South Africa

Roger Wright wrote: Using a feather is kinky; using the whole chicken is perverted!

Christian Graus

Paul Watson wrote: That she then walked out of the shop and into a brand new BMW made me even more enraged. :omg::wtf: That is truly classic stuff. Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002
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Konstantin Vasserman

Paul Watson wrote: Bet they get all excited when things blow up though. No. Everyone is upset and sad and feel very bad for what happened. It's just majority of the people don't even understand what it's all about. They don't know why we fly to space. The don't know much of anything outside of the bible that was "stamped" into their heads from childhood. Hell, most of them don't even know the bible...

Michael A Barnhart

Well, I can not quite recent figures but some time back I saw figures that showed when you look at spawned off industry (like the PC Market) NASA has actually made more revenue for the US than it cost. Now throw in the lives that have been improved with the technologies and it is one of the clearly good things the US Gov has promoted IMO. "I will find a new sig someday."

Chris Austin

Konstantin Vasserman wrote: 2. They have no business flying into space in the first place because there are still unsolved problems on the earth... Funny, I had the exact opposite experiance. As I sat down for my lonely dinner I heard a lot of people opining that it should be fixed asap and how nasa needs more money. Konstantin Vasserman wrote: 1. god this and god that... LOL! What part of the country are you in? I hope it's not somewhere in the deep south like Mississippi. If so get out before it's too late. :) "Veni, Vidi, Booyah!" - Ceasar

Konstantin Vasserman

Chris Austin wrote: heard a lot of people opining that it should be fixed asap and how nasa needs more money. I don't know about people in media coverage. I am just talking about people on the "streets". Maybe I just got very unlucky... Chris Austin wrote: What part of the country are you in? I hope it's not somewhere in the deep south like Mississippi. If so get out before it's too late. :) I am in Ohio. But it does not matter where I live - just listen to Bush's speech yesterday. There is word "god" in every other sentence...

Chris Austin

Konstantin Vasserman wrote: Maybe I just got very unlucky... You must have. I was out at a resturant when I heard this stuff. Konstantin Vasserman wrote: just listen to Bush's speech yesterday LOL!!! Again, when I heard he was going to give a speech I poped in "Chasing Amy" and watched that. I have been boycotting his speeches because when he talks I get pissed off. "Veni, Vidi, Booyah!" - Ceasar

Konstantin Vasserman

Chris Austin wrote: I was out at a resturant when I heard this stuff. Was it an expensive restaurant? ;) Chris Austin wrote: I have been boycotting his speeches because when he talks I get pissed off. I need to learn from you and stop watching news all together. Every time I watch news I get pissed off.

Lost User

I just voted a 5, excellent comment. And your quote from Ghandi (which I like) provides an interesting comment on the Ghandi thread above. Elaine The tigress is here :-D

Rob Graham

Paul Watson wrote: whatever she has got. Stupidity Transmitted Disease?:suss: Some ideas are so stupid that only an intellectual could have thought of them - George Orwell

Stan Shannon

The Earth first argument against space exploration is pathetically stupid. To wait until every child on the planet is fat and happy before we can go exploring is to say that we will never go exploring because every child will never be fat and happy. Still, I think the U.S. does need to totally rethink its objectives in space. As long as the government is running the space program it will probably continue to be a waste of money and lives. Private coorporations wishing to exploit and develope space based resources should be given sufficient tax incentives for doing so. If there are sound fiscal reasons for putting people into space, than private companies should assume the risks. If those 7 gallent public employees aboard Columbia had just been so many capitalists pigs coming back after raping the moon, nobody would have cared or noticed their deaths. Government sponsered space exploration will always be done for the wrong reasons. For example, to even consider sending people to Mars before we have established a functional lunar colony is ludicrous. Yet, the government would do that just to leave a foot print and a flag. For the expense we have poured into that stupid "space station" we could have already had people permanently on the moon. So I guess I come down on the defund NASA side, but I'm not at all "anti-spacer". I hope they defund it soon and let private enterprise take us into the next frontier. "Any clod can have the facts, but having opinions is an art." Charles McCabe, San Francisco Chronicle

Anna Jayne Metcalfe

I don't blame you one bit for feeling that way Paul. :rose: I'd have told her what I thought of her. ;) Anna :rose: www.annasplace.me.uk

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Stan Shannon

Konstantin Vasserman wrote: I am in Ohio Which part? I live in Indiana and have found it to be about the most religious place I have ever lived, and that includes Oklahoma, Alabama and Utah. I doubt Ohio would be much different. I thought Bush gave an appropriate speech. However, I can't help but be amused at how the press goes on about it. It wasn't that good. Although I'm not overtly religious, I don't have a problem with religion myself. I wouldn't think any seriously non-religious person would find the U.S. a comfortable place to live. Although I suppose its more comfortable than the former Soviet Union, antheism or not, eh? "Any clod can have the facts, but having opinions is an art." Charles McCabe, San Francisco Chronicle

Konstantin Vasserman

Stan Shannon wrote: Which part? Cincinnati area. Stan Shannon wrote: I live in Indiana and have found it to be about the most religious place I have ever lived, and that includes Oklahoma, Alabama and Utah. I doubt Ohio would be much different. I haven't lived in other states for long periods of time, but from what I hear from others you are correct and Ohio and Indiana are about the same as far as religion concern. Stan Shannon wrote: I wouldn't think any seriously non-religious person would find the U.S. a comfortable place to live. Although I suppose its more comfortable than the former Soviet Union, antheism or not, eh? It all depends on what you are looking for. Personal belief or lack thereof were not one of the decisive factors for my move.

Stan Shannon

Konstantin Vasserman wrote: Cincinnati area. How is Cincinnati work wise? I live just up the road near Muncie, IN. I'm currently doing some contract work in the Knoxville, TN area, so I drive through Cincinnati on a regular basis (tomorrow, in fact). I've tried to land contract work in Cincinnati but haven't had much luck with it. If you don't like religion, you probably could not have picked a worse place to live. I've found that Southern fundamentalism blends into Northern puritanism in this area. Of the two, I'd take Southern fundamentalism anyday. Those damn puritans just can't take a joke. "Any clod can have the facts, but having opinions is an art." Charles McCabe, San Francisco Chronicle

Konstantin Vasserman

Stan Shannon wrote: How is Cincinnati work wise? As far as I can tell, it is as bad as the rest of the country. There is no ads in news papers, for every ad we place there are hundreds of responses and so on. Stan Shannon wrote: I drive through Cincinnati on a regular basis I guess, I need to be careful and try not to piss you off here in the forums... :) Stan Shannon wrote: I've tried to land contract work in Cincinnati but haven't had much luck with it. Yes. It is tough finding work right now for small companies as well as for independent consultants. Stan Shannon wrote: If you don't like religion, you probably could not have picked a worse place to live. It could very well be. Stan Shannon wrote: I've found that Southern fundamentalism blends into Northern puritanism in this area. I am just trying to steer clear from all of them as much as I can.

Jorgen Sigvardsson

ROFLMAO! :laugh: -- Ignorant people upsets me.

Stan Shannon

Konstantin Vasserman wrote: As far as I can tell, it is as bad as the rest of the country. There is no ads in news papers, for every ad we place there are hundreds of responses and so on. Ohio is a hot bed of technology compared to Indiana. Moving here was a big mistake for me, but my wife and kids are happy, so I quess thats something. I've actually been finding more work than I expected when I quit my last job in disgust. I'm just not finding it in this area. I would like to finish out my career as an independent consultant. If that doesn't pan out though, I'll be just as happy to work at WalMart. Konstantin Vasserman wrote: I guess, I need to be careful and try not to piss you off here in the forums... I always take the 275 bypass around the South end of town, so you're probably safe enough. Besides, you would need to be up early. I'm usually clear of there by 5:00 a.m. Konstantin Vasserman wrote: I am just trying to steer clear from all of them as much as I can. I grew up in this environment, so I find all the religion to be highly amusing. As a kid, I used to make all the bible thumpers mad by argueing with them about evolution. They took it well enough, but it was always a real hoot for me. Believe it or not, back in my hometown, I'm considered to be quite the liberal renegade. :) "Any clod can have the facts, but having opinions is an art." Charles McCabe, San Francisco Chronicle

Jorgen Sigvardsson

Stan Shannon wrote: For example, to even consider sending people to Mars before we have established a functional lunar colony is ludicrous It all depends on what the goal is. If finding life or evidence of previous life is the main goal, then going to Mars is of higher priority. To me, the thought of finding evidence of extraterrestial life is exhilarating. Colonizing the moon isn't that shabby either, but there's not much magic in it. Stan Shannon wrote: For the expense we have poured into that stupid "space station" we could have already had people permanently on the moon. Really? I disagree. There are several factors which makes it a lot harder to build a lunar station than an orbital station. First of all, the distance to the moon (approx 240,000 mi) compared to the distance to ISS (between 210 and 250 mi) is much bigger. The climate of the moon is also a tough cookie - you'd be in total darkness and utter coldness (-338F/-205C) for two weeks give or take a few days. We're not ready for a lunar station just yet - at least not economically. Stan Shannon wrote: I hope they defund it soon and let private enterprise take us into the next frontier. That would be excellent. But I doubt it'll happen this first half of the century, unless they find a cheap and reasonably safe way to fly into space. Otherwise, there won't be much profit in it. And giving space exploring companies tax breaks won't do it I think. The difference between 30 billion dollars and 20 billion dollars is 10 billion dollars, but all figures are extremely high! I think the government would not only have to give tax breaks, they'd have to subsidize. (Note, these figures are made up. I have no idea what it would cost to go to the moon and build something there). I think it would be far best if we could all just stop killing eachother and explore the heavens together. But that's just wishful thinking/dreaming. :| -- Ignorant people upsets me.