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  • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

    GuyThiebaut wrote:

    I should have coded:

    if (item.Substring(0, 3).ToLower() != "PF_".ToLower())

    I hope that's a good example of sarcasm! ;P

    if (string.Compare(item, 0, "PF_", 0, 3, StringComparison.OrdinalIgnoreCase) != 0)


    "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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    GuyThiebaut
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    #3

    Yes it's self satire... honestly...

    “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

    ― Christopher Hitchens

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    • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

      GuyThiebaut wrote:

      I should have coded:

      if (item.Substring(0, 3).ToLower() != "PF_".ToLower())

      I hope that's a good example of sarcasm! ;P

      if (string.Compare(item, 0, "PF_", 0, 3, StringComparison.OrdinalIgnoreCase) != 0)


      "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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      BobJanova
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      #4

      If we're going for doing it right of course the answer is

      if(item.StartsWith("PF_", StringComparison.OrdinalIgnoreCase)) ...

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      • B BobJanova

        If we're going for doing it right of course the answer is

        if(item.StartsWith("PF_", StringComparison.OrdinalIgnoreCase)) ...

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        Richard Deeming
        wrote on last edited by
        #5

        Well, if you will insist on writing code that other people can understand and maintain... :rolleyes:


        "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

        "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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        • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

          Well, if you will insist on writing code that other people can understand and maintain... :rolleyes:


          "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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          wrote on last edited by
          #6

          I'm sorry I meant

          if(1600548864 == (*(int*)&item.ToLower()) << 8) ...

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          • B BobJanova

            I'm sorry I meant

            if(1600548864 == (*(int*)&item.ToLower()) << 8) ...

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            Richard Deeming
            wrote on last edited by
            #7

            That's better! :laugh:


            "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

            "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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            • B BobJanova

              I'm sorry I meant

              if(1600548864 == (*(int*)&item.ToLower()) << 8) ...

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              OriginalGriff
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              #8

              Nasty! Unsafe code... Please, try to avoid it, especially when it can be done without it so much more clearly:

              if (((BitConverter.ToInt32(Encoding.ASCII.GetBytes(item), 0) & 6250335) ^ 6243920) == 0)

              "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
              "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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              • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                Nasty! Unsafe code... Please, try to avoid it, especially when it can be done without it so much more clearly:

                if (((BitConverter.ToInt32(Encoding.ASCII.GetBytes(item), 0) & 6250335) ^ 6243920) == 0)

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                #9

                Clearly a functional language will magically make this far better:

                ((xum 567 487) (map item (lambda x (find (xor x (and y z)) (encode pi 49)))

                The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
                I hold an A-7 computer expert classification, Commodore. I'm well acquainted with Dr. Daystrom's theories and discoveries. The basic design of all our ship's computers are JavaScript.

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                • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

                  GuyThiebaut wrote:

                  I should have coded:

                  if (item.Substring(0, 3).ToLower() != "PF_".ToLower())

                  I hope that's a good example of sarcasm! ;P

                  if (string.Compare(item, 0, "PF_", 0, 3, StringComparison.OrdinalIgnoreCase) != 0)


                  "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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                  #10

                  if(String.Equals(string1, string2, StringComparison.OrdinalIgnoreCase))
                  {
                  ...
                  }

                  is faster than string.Compare Please kill me now or erase any information about c# from my head.

                  Microsoft ... the only place where VARIANT_TRUE != true

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                  • L Lost User

                    Clearly a functional language will magically make this far better:

                    ((xum 567 487) (map item (lambda x (find (xor x (and y z)) (encode pi 49)))

                    The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
                    I hold an A-7 computer expert classification, Commodore. I'm well acquainted with Dr. Daystrom's theories and discoveries. The basic design of all our ship's computers are JavaScript.

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                    OriginalGriff
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #11

                    CDP1802 wrote:

                    ((xum 567 487) (map item (lambda x (find (xor x (and y z)) (encode pi 49)))

                    The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here

                    Man! :omg: Javascript has changed!

                    "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                    "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                    • A Argonia

                      if(String.Equals(string1, string2, StringComparison.OrdinalIgnoreCase))
                      {
                      ...
                      }

                      is faster than string.Compare Please kill me now or erase any information about c# from my head.

                      Microsoft ... the only place where VARIANT_TRUE != true

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                      Richard Deeming
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #12

                      Are you sure? They both use a virtually identical approach behind the scenes. And since the original code is only comparing the first three characters of the item string, you'd have to use Substring to create a new string before you could call Equals, which would almost certainly be slower.


                      "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

                      "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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                      • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

                        Are you sure? They both use a virtually identical approach behind the scenes. And since the original code is only comparing the first three characters of the item string, you'd have to use Substring to create a new string before you could call Equals, which would almost certainly be slower.


                        "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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                        #13

                        Yes!

                                string string1 = File.ReadAllText(@"D:\\Temp\\MyText.txt");
                                string string2 = File.ReadAllText(@"D:\\Temp\\MyText.txt");
                                int x = 0;
                                Stopwatch sw1 = new Stopwatch();
                                sw1.Start();
                                for (int i = 0; i < 1000; i++)
                                    {
                                    if (String.Equals(string1, string2, StringComparison.OrdinalIgnoreCase))
                                        {
                                        x++;
                                        }
                                    }
                                sw1.Stop();
                                Console.WriteLine(x);
                                x = 0;
                                Stopwatch sw2 = new Stopwatch();
                                sw2.Start();
                                for (int i = 0; i < 1000; i++)
                                    {
                                    if (String.Compare(string1, string2, true) == 0)
                                        {
                                        x++;
                                        }
                                    }
                                sw2.Stop();
                                Console.WriteLine(x);
                                Console.WriteLine("{0}:{1}", sw1.ElapsedMilliseconds, sw2.ElapsedMilliseconds);
                        

                        (The file is one of my standard test files: 1.6MB of Ipsum Lorem paragraphs) Results:

                        1000
                        1000
                        1716:4071

                        "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                        "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                        • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                          Yes!

                                  string string1 = File.ReadAllText(@"D:\\Temp\\MyText.txt");
                                  string string2 = File.ReadAllText(@"D:\\Temp\\MyText.txt");
                                  int x = 0;
                                  Stopwatch sw1 = new Stopwatch();
                                  sw1.Start();
                                  for (int i = 0; i < 1000; i++)
                                      {
                                      if (String.Equals(string1, string2, StringComparison.OrdinalIgnoreCase))
                                          {
                                          x++;
                                          }
                                      }
                                  sw1.Stop();
                                  Console.WriteLine(x);
                                  x = 0;
                                  Stopwatch sw2 = new Stopwatch();
                                  sw2.Start();
                                  for (int i = 0; i < 1000; i++)
                                      {
                                      if (String.Compare(string1, string2, true) == 0)
                                          {
                                          x++;
                                          }
                                      }
                                  sw2.Stop();
                                  Console.WriteLine(x);
                                  Console.WriteLine("{0}:{1}", sw1.ElapsedMilliseconds, sw2.ElapsedMilliseconds);
                          

                          (The file is one of my standard test files: 1.6MB of Ipsum Lorem paragraphs) Results:

                          1000
                          1000
                          1716:4071

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                          wrote on last edited by
                          #14

                          That's strange - on my computer, with a similar sized text file, Compare(string, string, bool) is consistently faster:

                          1000
                          1000
                          13997:3431

                          I'm running .NET 4.5.1 on Win7 x64. Also, string.Compare(s1, s2, true) isn't the same as string.Equals(s1, s2, StringComparison.OrdinalIgnoreCase); it's equivalent to StringComparison.CurrentCultureIgnoreCase. Try using string.Compare(s1, s2, StringComparison.OrdinalIgnoreCase) instead.


                          "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

                          "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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                          • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

                            That's strange - on my computer, with a similar sized text file, Compare(string, string, bool) is consistently faster:

                            1000
                            1000
                            13997:3431

                            I'm running .NET 4.5.1 on Win7 x64. Also, string.Compare(s1, s2, true) isn't the same as string.Equals(s1, s2, StringComparison.OrdinalIgnoreCase); it's equivalent to StringComparison.CurrentCultureIgnoreCase. Try using string.Compare(s1, s2, StringComparison.OrdinalIgnoreCase) instead.


                            "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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                            OriginalGriff
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #15

                            Interesting: I'm also Win7/64, but .NET 4.0 rather than 4.5. Adding OrdinalIgnoreCase:

                                    string string1 = File.ReadAllText(@"D:\\Temp\\MyText.txt");
                                    string string2 = File.ReadAllText(@"D:\\Temp\\MyText.txt");
                                    int x = 0;
                                    Stopwatch sw1 = new Stopwatch();
                                    sw1.Start();
                                    for (int i = 0; i < 1000; i++)
                                        {
                                        if (String.Equals(string1, string2, StringComparison.OrdinalIgnoreCase))
                                            {
                                            x++;
                                            }
                                        }
                                    sw1.Stop();
                                    Console.WriteLine(x);
                                    x = 0;
                                    Stopwatch sw2 = new Stopwatch();
                                    sw2.Start();
                                    for (int i = 0; i < 1000; i++)
                                        {
                                        if (String.Compare(string1, string2, true) == 0)
                                            {
                                            x++;
                                            }
                                        }
                                    sw2.Stop();
                                    Console.WriteLine(x);
                                    x = 0;
                                    Stopwatch sw3 = new Stopwatch();
                                    sw3.Start();
                                    for (int i = 0; i < 1000; i++)
                                        {
                                        if (String.Compare(string1, string2, StringComparison.OrdinalIgnoreCase) == 0)
                                            {
                                            x++;
                                            }
                                        }
                                    sw3.Stop();
                                    Console.WriteLine(x);
                                    Console.WriteLine("{0}:{1}:{2}", sw1.ElapsedMilliseconds, sw2.ElapsedMilliseconds,sw3.ElapsedMilliseconds);
                            

                            gives results similar to yours:

                            1000
                            1000
                            1000
                            1694:4087:1684

                            I'm surprised there is such a difference in performance between our machines: mine isn't anywhere near state of the art - more state of the ark! :laugh:

                            "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                            "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                            • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                              Interesting: I'm also Win7/64, but .NET 4.0 rather than 4.5. Adding OrdinalIgnoreCase:

                                      string string1 = File.ReadAllText(@"D:\\Temp\\MyText.txt");
                                      string string2 = File.ReadAllText(@"D:\\Temp\\MyText.txt");
                                      int x = 0;
                                      Stopwatch sw1 = new Stopwatch();
                                      sw1.Start();
                                      for (int i = 0; i < 1000; i++)
                                          {
                                          if (String.Equals(string1, string2, StringComparison.OrdinalIgnoreCase))
                                              {
                                              x++;
                                              }
                                          }
                                      sw1.Stop();
                                      Console.WriteLine(x);
                                      x = 0;
                                      Stopwatch sw2 = new Stopwatch();
                                      sw2.Start();
                                      for (int i = 0; i < 1000; i++)
                                          {
                                          if (String.Compare(string1, string2, true) == 0)
                                              {
                                              x++;
                                              }
                                          }
                                      sw2.Stop();
                                      Console.WriteLine(x);
                                      x = 0;
                                      Stopwatch sw3 = new Stopwatch();
                                      sw3.Start();
                                      for (int i = 0; i < 1000; i++)
                                          {
                                          if (String.Compare(string1, string2, StringComparison.OrdinalIgnoreCase) == 0)
                                              {
                                              x++;
                                              }
                                          }
                                      sw3.Stop();
                                      Console.WriteLine(x);
                                      Console.WriteLine("{0}:{1}:{2}", sw1.ElapsedMilliseconds, sw2.ElapsedMilliseconds,sw3.ElapsedMilliseconds);
                              

                              gives results similar to yours:

                              1000
                              1000
                              1000
                              1694:4087:1684

                              I'm surprised there is such a difference in performance between our machines: mine isn't anywhere near state of the art - more state of the ark! :laugh:

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                              #16

                              Ah, the mysteries of M$. Our life will be so empty and boring without them. The same code (Sorry Griff i should pay you author rights) the result was

                              1000
                              1000
                              1000
                              4359:2216:4383

                              .Net 4.5 Win 7/64

                              Microsoft ... the only place where VARIANT_TRUE != true

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                              • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                Interesting: I'm also Win7/64, but .NET 4.0 rather than 4.5. Adding OrdinalIgnoreCase:

                                        string string1 = File.ReadAllText(@"D:\\Temp\\MyText.txt");
                                        string string2 = File.ReadAllText(@"D:\\Temp\\MyText.txt");
                                        int x = 0;
                                        Stopwatch sw1 = new Stopwatch();
                                        sw1.Start();
                                        for (int i = 0; i < 1000; i++)
                                            {
                                            if (String.Equals(string1, string2, StringComparison.OrdinalIgnoreCase))
                                                {
                                                x++;
                                                }
                                            }
                                        sw1.Stop();
                                        Console.WriteLine(x);
                                        x = 0;
                                        Stopwatch sw2 = new Stopwatch();
                                        sw2.Start();
                                        for (int i = 0; i < 1000; i++)
                                            {
                                            if (String.Compare(string1, string2, true) == 0)
                                                {
                                                x++;
                                                }
                                            }
                                        sw2.Stop();
                                        Console.WriteLine(x);
                                        x = 0;
                                        Stopwatch sw3 = new Stopwatch();
                                        sw3.Start();
                                        for (int i = 0; i < 1000; i++)
                                            {
                                            if (String.Compare(string1, string2, StringComparison.OrdinalIgnoreCase) == 0)
                                                {
                                                x++;
                                                }
                                            }
                                        sw3.Stop();
                                        Console.WriteLine(x);
                                        Console.WriteLine("{0}:{1}:{2}", sw1.ElapsedMilliseconds, sw2.ElapsedMilliseconds,sw3.ElapsedMilliseconds);
                                

                                gives results similar to yours:

                                1000
                                1000
                                1000
                                1694:4087:1684

                                I'm surprised there is such a difference in performance between our machines: mine isn't anywhere near state of the art - more state of the ark! :laugh:

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                                #17

                                It must be .NET 4.5 - my machine's an early Vista-era dual-core.


                                "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

                                "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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                                • A Argonia

                                  Ah, the mysteries of M$. Our life will be so empty and boring without them. The same code (Sorry Griff i should pay you author rights) the result was

                                  1000
                                  1000
                                  1000
                                  4359:2216:4383

                                  .Net 4.5 Win 7/64

                                  Microsoft ... the only place where VARIANT_TRUE != true

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                                  #18

                                  Out of interest, are you building for "Any CPU", "x64" or "x32"? Mine is built "x32" because that's what the app I shoved the code in is built for.

                                  "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                                  "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                                  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                    Out of interest, are you building for "Any CPU", "x64" or "x32"? Mine is built "x32" because that's what the app I shoved the code in is built for.

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                                    #19

                                    The results i pasted was with "Any CPU" x64

                                    1000
                                    1000
                                    1000
                                    5363:2199:5338

                                    x86

                                    1000
                                    1000
                                    1000
                                    4530:2305:4519

                                    Visual studio Premium 2012 version 11 with Update 3, Win7/64, .NET 4.5.50709 to be exact Anyway i don't see how he gets ~14 seconds for String.Equals P.S i should say i have problems with my hard at work. I am waiting for it to die. This also can affect the pasted data. I wonder what the results will be with reading from SSD Note to myself : seconds comes after milliseconds not minutes. Stupid

                                    Microsoft ... the only place where VARIANT_TRUE != true

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                                      The results i pasted was with "Any CPU" x64

                                      1000
                                      1000
                                      1000
                                      5363:2199:5338

                                      x86

                                      1000
                                      1000
                                      1000
                                      4530:2305:4519

                                      Visual studio Premium 2012 version 11 with Update 3, Win7/64, .NET 4.5.50709 to be exact Anyway i don't see how he gets ~14 seconds for String.Equals P.S i should say i have problems with my hard at work. I am waiting for it to die. This also can affect the pasted data. I wonder what the results will be with reading from SSD Note to myself : seconds comes after milliseconds not minutes. Stupid

                                      Microsoft ... the only place where VARIANT_TRUE != true

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                                      It's milliseconds, so it was just under 14 seconds, not minutes! ;P I'm running the code in LinqPad[^], and I've tried both with and without optimisations enabled, but it doesn't make a huge difference.


                                      "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

                                      "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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                                      • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

                                        It's milliseconds, so it was just under 14 seconds, not minutes! ;P I'm running the code in LinqPad[^], and I've tried both with and without optimisations enabled, but it doesn't make a huge difference.


                                        "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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                                        #21

                                        Yeah i know its in milliseconds but my upper processor forgot that after miliseconds seconds are next not minutes :D I am running it in debug mode with no optimisations.

                                        Microsoft ... the only place where VARIANT_TRUE != true

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                                        • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                          Interesting: I'm also Win7/64, but .NET 4.0 rather than 4.5. Adding OrdinalIgnoreCase:

                                                  string string1 = File.ReadAllText(@"D:\\Temp\\MyText.txt");
                                                  string string2 = File.ReadAllText(@"D:\\Temp\\MyText.txt");
                                                  int x = 0;
                                                  Stopwatch sw1 = new Stopwatch();
                                                  sw1.Start();
                                                  for (int i = 0; i < 1000; i++)
                                                      {
                                                      if (String.Equals(string1, string2, StringComparison.OrdinalIgnoreCase))
                                                          {
                                                          x++;
                                                          }
                                                      }
                                                  sw1.Stop();
                                                  Console.WriteLine(x);
                                                  x = 0;
                                                  Stopwatch sw2 = new Stopwatch();
                                                  sw2.Start();
                                                  for (int i = 0; i < 1000; i++)
                                                      {
                                                      if (String.Compare(string1, string2, true) == 0)
                                                          {
                                                          x++;
                                                          }
                                                      }
                                                  sw2.Stop();
                                                  Console.WriteLine(x);
                                                  x = 0;
                                                  Stopwatch sw3 = new Stopwatch();
                                                  sw3.Start();
                                                  for (int i = 0; i < 1000; i++)
                                                      {
                                                      if (String.Compare(string1, string2, StringComparison.OrdinalIgnoreCase) == 0)
                                                          {
                                                          x++;
                                                          }
                                                      }
                                                  sw3.Stop();
                                                  Console.WriteLine(x);
                                                  Console.WriteLine("{0}:{1}:{2}", sw1.ElapsedMilliseconds, sw2.ElapsedMilliseconds,sw3.ElapsedMilliseconds);
                                          

                                          gives results similar to yours:

                                          1000
                                          1000
                                          1000
                                          1694:4087:1684

                                          I'm surprised there is such a difference in performance between our machines: mine isn't anywhere near state of the art - more state of the ark! :laugh:

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                                          #22

                                          You'll have to redo the test using the same textfile. I believe that's where most of the difference lies.

                                          Politicians are always realistically manoeuvering for the next election. They are obsolete as fundamental problem-solvers. Buckminster Fuller

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