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  • P Paul Riley

    KaЯl wrote: It could be a good idea for a small app, which could change any button of the taskbar in icon in the systray, and vice-versa. Interesting idea, I think it would be impossible though. Don't you have to create the notify icon and then remove your app from the taskbar? (two completely unrelated actions - I did this once but a long time ago, I may be talking out of my ear) You could create a notify icon, no problem. But how would you tell an unknown app to remove itself from the taskbar (or worse, remove the notify icon and put it back into the taskbar)? Paul And you run and you run to catch up with the sun, but it's sinking
    Racing around to come up behind you again
    The sun is the same in a relative way, but you're older
    Shorter of breath, one day closer to death
    - Pink Floyd, Time

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    Andreas Saurwein
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    Its already done. Iconizer, I have the source somewhere (maybe its even from CP?) Works nicely.


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    • B benjymous

      Something I've always wondered is why it can't just be a windows standard thing. I.e. have a 4th button in the top right of the window frame that'd iconify the app to the systray. Could such a thing be hooked into the system? -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit!

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      Yeah, like I said in another answer - Iconizer does it. (where is that damned thing when you need it?)


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        Something I've always wondered is why it can't just be a windows standard thing. I.e. have a 4th button in the top right of the window frame that'd iconify the app to the systray. Could such a thing be hooked into the system? -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit!

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        benjymous wrote: Could such a thing be hooked into the system? I don't see why not; rather than minimizing, it could hide the window completely and create a notify icon. The problem would be that programs that really have notify icons probably couldn't be auto-expanded and users would get confused. Maybe a seperate toolbar, much like the shortcuts bar, that you could drop taskbar items into. Or (possibly more simply), how about resizable taskbar items? I've never quite decided whether I like XPs stacking system (if you have too many taskbar items, stack those of the same type). Sometimes it can be really annoying but then some taskbar items do need to be fullsize and too many items prevents that. If you could make your five or six Windows Explorer items (AND OUTLOOK) really small and keep your development environments at normal size, that would be great. Paul And you run and you run to catch up with the sun, but it's sinking
        Racing around to come up behind you again
        The sun is the same in a relative way, but you're older
        Shorter of breath, one day closer to death
        - Pink Floyd, Time

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        • P Paul Riley

          Why the hell doesn't Outlook minimize into a notify icon? I have this damn program running day and night and it eats up a quarter of the taskbar, is that entirely necessary? I only want to know if an email has turned up, if the server connect is failing or if I've forgotten something in my calendar, the rest of the time it should just get the hell out of my face. Am I the only one irritated by this? Better still, am I missing some well-hidden but really simple checkbox that'll do the job for me? Or have they "fixed" it in Office XP? That would be a reason to go through the hassle of upgrading. Say what you like about them, MS are usually pretty good at doing really obvious things like this; why not in Outlook? Paul And you run and you run to catch up with the sun, but it's sinking
          Racing around to come up behind you again
          The sun is the same in a relative way, but you're older
          Shorter of breath, one day closer to death
          - Pink Floyd, Time

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          Iconizer[^] The depths of CP are unmeasurable...


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            Iconizer[^] The depths of CP are unmeasurable...


            ... you keep forgetting that sheep shagging is not a crime in Australia ...Paul Watson, The Lounge

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            Andreas Saurwein wrote: Iconizer[^] The depths of CP are unmeasurable... Cool! I admit to being kind of nervous about some of the comments at the bottom though, particularly the lack of XP version. Maybe the 2K version would work, but it is a big maybe. I'd certainly have to take a full backup before I risked it. Paul And you run and you run to catch up with the sun, but it's sinking
            Racing around to come up behind you again
            The sun is the same in a relative way, but you're older
            Shorter of breath, one day closer to death
            - Pink Floyd, Time

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            • P Paul Riley

              Andreas Saurwein wrote: Iconizer[^] The depths of CP are unmeasurable... Cool! I admit to being kind of nervous about some of the comments at the bottom though, particularly the lack of XP version. Maybe the 2K version would work, but it is a big maybe. I'd certainly have to take a full backup before I risked it. Paul And you run and you run to catch up with the sun, but it's sinking
              Racing around to come up behind you again
              The sun is the same in a relative way, but you're older
              Shorter of breath, one day closer to death
              - Pink Floyd, Time

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              Andreas Saurwein
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              Actually it runs fine, although it looks ugly when you have Themes on. There are a few glitches, but hey, you have the source :)


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              • A Andreas Saurwein

                Iconizer[^] The depths of CP are unmeasurable...


                ... you keep forgetting that sheep shagging is not a crime in Australia ...Paul Watson, The Lounge

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                KaRl
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                Excellent, thanks! CP kicks ass! :cool:


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                • P Paul Riley

                  Andreas Saurwein wrote: You should try the vertical taskbar instead of the default bottom crap Can you even do that in Windows XP? I've never seen a way to do it. I did it before with an earlier version and in all honesty didn't like it, but I'd try it again. I will say this though... it wouldn't stop me being pissed off about Outlook wasting space where it shouldn't need to :-D Paul And you run and you run to catch up with the sun, but it's sinking
                  Racing around to come up behind you again
                  The sun is the same in a relative way, but you're older
                  Shorter of breath, one day closer to death
                  - Pink Floyd, Time

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                  It *does* take a while to get used to it, but in my case, there's no going back...

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                  • P Paul Riley

                    KaЯl wrote: It could be a good idea for a small app, which could change any button of the taskbar in icon in the systray, and vice-versa. Interesting idea, I think it would be impossible though. Don't you have to create the notify icon and then remove your app from the taskbar? (two completely unrelated actions - I did this once but a long time ago, I may be talking out of my ear) You could create a notify icon, no problem. But how would you tell an unknown app to remove itself from the taskbar (or worse, remove the notify icon and put it back into the taskbar)? Paul And you run and you run to catch up with the sun, but it's sinking
                    Racing around to come up behind you again
                    The sun is the same in a relative way, but you're older
                    Shorter of breath, one day closer to death
                    - Pink Floyd, Time

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                    "Impossible", just like this: http://www.veridicus.com/tummy/programming/powermenu/[^] ;P This little jewel has been on my "must have" utility collection since the day I found it.

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                    • D David Wulff

                      Outlook 2002 allows you to minimise it to the system tray, though you need to set a registry entry directly: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Office\10.0\Outlook\Preferences\MinToTray (DWORD) = 1 I agree though, this should be in the options. And please for Outlook 11 - when I tell the status dialog "not to show during send/receive", I mean not to show it during send /receive regardless of whether Outlook is minimised or not.


                      David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk

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                      Ray Cassick
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                      Oh my god this is sooooooo frikin' awsome! I have been trying to figure out hoe to do that for weeks! This is so cool... Grrrrr but now OL is one of those annoying apps that don't minimize to the system try when you click on the 'X' :mad: Damn! (one of the 100 reasons i stopped using ICQ). Still cool though....


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                      George Carlin wrote: "Don't sweat the petty things, and don't pet the sweaty things."


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