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Details vs. "Art"

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  • K KaRl

    Evil is in the Details :)


    Angels banished from heaven have no choice but to become demons Cowboy Bebop

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    KaЯl wrote: Evil is in the Details You are pretty open to people correcting your English, so here goes: It is "The Devil is in the details." not evil. Same thing really, but a minor mistake that English speakers will rag you for.

    Paul Watson
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    Roger Wright wrote: Using a feather is kinky; using the whole chicken is perverted!

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      Paul Watson wrote: So those who asked "Where is the engine?" or said "Artsy fartsy crap", or just plain did not like it: When do you appreciate aesthetics and vision at the cost of details? I did tell you that I liked it and that it printed out great. I just also would apprecaite the engine, also. Did not mean to complain:( "I will find a new sig someday."

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      Michael A. Barnhart wrote: I did tell you that I liked it and that it printed out great. I just also would apprecaite the engine, also. Did not mean to complain Sorry Michael, I was not picking on you. As you said after your engine remark you did say it printed great and even if you were just testing your printer it put a grin on my face. BTW, how big did you print the shot? A4? Was there much grain in the image or was it quite clean and smooth? I do actually regret not having taken more photos of that muscle car, it was a beaut. Thing is, about 100 meters away were two Ferrari F1 Grand Prix cars, the very ones that Schumi drove. So I was kinda running past the muscle car, snapped the flag shot and then onto the GP cars :)

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      Roger Wright wrote: Using a feather is kinky; using the whole chicken is perverted!

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        They just missed the fact that the detail to look for was not the car at all, at least not the mechanics of the car. The muscle in the car you photographed was to be found in the symbolism of the US flag. If you can't see or appreciate the colors, mood, emotion, or composition of photographs and paintings, then likely you're missing half of what is going on around you. BW "Gandalf. Yes. That is what they used to call me. Gandalf the Grey. *I* am Gandalf the White." - Gandalf the White

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        brianwelsch wrote: If you can't see or appreciate the colors, mood, emotion, or composition of photographs and paintings, then likely you're missing half of what is going on around you On that it is amazing how much more you see once you pick up a camera. Even when not looking through a viewfinder, you evaluate things around you a lot more intensely. Even if it is just to figure out if a great photo is lurking, it is still a good thing.

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        Roger Wright wrote: Using a feather is kinky; using the whole chicken is perverted!

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          Paul Watson wrote: But I am still curious as to what would please you? More Honduran squirrels. Lots more.

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          Shog9 wrote: More Honduran squirrels. Lots more. Woah, woah, slow down there Shog. I have not even had the guts to do a normal nude photo shoot yet, never mind throwing in some Honduran squirrels. :rolleyes:

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          • R Roger Wright

            Who cares what pleases others? You enjoy photography, it's your hobby - shoot what pleases you! As a general rule, though, if you're shooting for a pragmatic purpose - to sell a car, perhaps - shoot the car. If you want to enjoy rich composition and the admiration of your fellow photographers, shoot the artsy fartsy stuff and the critics be damned... It is ok for women not to like sports, so long as they nod in the right places and bring beers at the right times.
            Paul Watson, on Sports - 2/10/2003

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            Roger Wright wrote: Who cares what pleases others? You enjoy photography, it's your hobby - shoot what pleases you! You are right and that is my approach as well. I liked that photo and would not change it to include more of the car or engine because others want it. This post though was more a "Just curious as to what does please you?" For interests sake. Was not trying to gather some sympathy or figure out what is wrong with me. :) I learnt awhile back to be happy means being happy with oneself, not with others.

            Paul Watson
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            Roger Wright wrote: Using a feather is kinky; using the whole chicken is perverted!

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              Roger Wright wrote: Who cares what pleases others? You enjoy photography, it's your hobby - shoot what pleases you! You are right and that is my approach as well. I liked that photo and would not change it to include more of the car or engine because others want it. This post though was more a "Just curious as to what does please you?" For interests sake. Was not trying to gather some sympathy or figure out what is wrong with me. :) I learnt awhile back to be happy means being happy with oneself, not with others.

              Paul Watson
              Bluegrass
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              Roger Wright wrote: Using a feather is kinky; using the whole chicken is perverted!

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              Paul Watson wrote: I learnt awhile back to be happy means being happy with oneself, not with others. You are so right, and so young to have learned it. I wonder why it takes the rest of us so long to figure that out? It is ok for women not to like sports, so long as they nod in the right places and bring beers at the right times.
              Paul Watson, on Sports - 2/10/2003

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              • P Paul Watson

                KaЯl wrote: Evil is in the Details You are pretty open to people correcting your English, so here goes: It is "The Devil is in the details." not evil. Same thing really, but a minor mistake that English speakers will rag you for.

                Paul Watson
                Bluegrass
                Cape Town, South Africa

                Roger Wright wrote: Using a feather is kinky; using the whole chicken is perverted!

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                According to GoogleFight, you're right. So, many thanks :cool: I'm perhaps too much influenced by GWB :rolleyes: The funny thing is I thought the "Devil" version sounded too french :-D


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                  Michael A. Barnhart wrote: I did tell you that I liked it and that it printed out great. I just also would apprecaite the engine, also. Did not mean to complain Sorry Michael, I was not picking on you. As you said after your engine remark you did say it printed great and even if you were just testing your printer it put a grin on my face. BTW, how big did you print the shot? A4? Was there much grain in the image or was it quite clean and smooth? I do actually regret not having taken more photos of that muscle car, it was a beaut. Thing is, about 100 meters away were two Ferrari F1 Grand Prix cars, the very ones that Schumi drove. So I was kinda running past the muscle car, snapped the flag shot and then onto the GP cars :)

                  Paul Watson
                  Bluegrass
                  Cape Town, South Africa

                  Roger Wright wrote: Using a feather is kinky; using the whole chicken is perverted!

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                  Paul Watson wrote: I was not picking on you. No problem, I had made the comment and you were responding to that line of statements. Paul Watson wrote: BTW, how big did you print the shot? A4? Was there much grain in the image or was it quite clean and smooth? I used SmartPhoto to print it. It was on a US letter size paper but the image was a standard 8X10 inch US format. No grain at all everything is sharp and clear. Even the reflection of the flag on the side of the car is smooth and no grain. I could easily make it larger if I had the ability to handle wider paper. You also have to remember my formal education is in structural engineering. So I really get into mechanical things. "I will find a new sig someday."

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                    Paul Watson wrote: I learnt awhile back to be happy means being happy with oneself, not with others. You are so right, and so young to have learned it. I wonder why it takes the rest of us so long to figure that out? It is ok for women not to like sports, so long as they nod in the right places and bring beers at the right times.
                    Paul Watson, on Sports - 2/10/2003

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                    Roger Wright wrote: You are so right, and so young to have learned it. I wonder why it takes the rest of us so long to figure that out? I think most people know it, they just don't practice it, much like me. I am getting better at it but it is a tough nut to crack, just like the RDPD issue :)

                    Paul Watson
                    Bluegrass
                    Cape Town, South Africa

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                      brianwelsch wrote: If you can't see or appreciate the colors, mood, emotion, or composition of photographs and paintings, then likely you're missing half of what is going on around you On that it is amazing how much more you see once you pick up a camera. Even when not looking through a viewfinder, you evaluate things around you a lot more intensely. Even if it is just to figure out if a great photo is lurking, it is still a good thing.

                      Paul Watson
                      Bluegrass
                      Cape Town, South Africa

                      Roger Wright wrote: Using a feather is kinky; using the whole chicken is perverted!

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                      Similarly, I often try guess at the story behind someone or something I see. I imagine that would change to trying to capture their story on film if I got into photography. Keeps me attentive to the outside world, which is where the action is.;) BW "Gandalf. Yes. That is what they used to call me. Gandalf the Grey. *I* am Gandalf the White." - Gandalf the White

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