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  • R Rohit Sinha

    Marc Clifton wrote: Now, I know there are a lot of Indians on CP, and I don't have any personal issues with them, I realize this is government stuff, just like I'm not personally responsible for the actions of the dickhead in Washington. You didn't need this disclaimer, Marc. This is an international community, and we all keep taking the liberty to take stabs at what we like/dislike about other countries. Nothing personal. Of course everyone understands that it's the government/President/Prime Minister we are talking about, and not the people in general, though that might be the case some of the time. Whatever. Chill man, life is beautiful. :rose:
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    Rohit Sinha

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    yeah, i mean some of the things said would be pretty scary if they were being said about individuals ("Lynching party!!!" style...) :~ sorry, sometimes i get carried away :-O Paul ;)

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    • B brianwelsch

      It would be great if we didn't need weapons at all, and we could focus on improving everyones life, but unfortunately thats not the reality we live in. So countries that have the product, in this case weapons, sell them to improve their own lot. BW "We get general information and specific information, but none of the specific information talks about time, place or methods or means..." - Tom Ridge - US Secretary of Homeland Security

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      Isn't that also a rather selfish point of view from the rich country's side too? I mean selling weapons for their profit to poor (and mostly irresponsible with weapons) people is (i think) almost like asking for wars between "developing" ( :suss: ) countries. Paul ;)

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      • K Kant

        Marc Clifton wrote: Oh, great. Developing countries??? So, instead of helping to feed and educate people, India is going to ship missiles to "developing countries". What's wrong. After Cold war is over. US became defacto arms-dealer seller. BTW, Who gave weapons to Iraq and Afganistan and look what happened now. I hope India makes better judgement when they sell :~ the weapons to developing countries. What about US tactics, if any country supports US led war against Iraq, they can get whatever they want. (money, weapons,...) Remember few years back in Clinton adminstration, US Govt blocked F-16's sale to Pakistan. (which was well before Nuclear tests) Look what happened after 9/11, immediately US lifted the embargo on those F-16s. From last 10 years or so India sending majority of their satellites using domestic technology with very less help from outside. This saved India millions of dollars. Previously India used France/US/USSR help in sending satellites. After successfully launching satellites, now it became threat to France's satellite launch business. India To Offer Cheaper Taxi Rides Into Space With Polar Launcher[^] You should commend India that atleast it's making baby steps in becoming a developed country. Follow live World Cup Cricket scores here[^]

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        Kant wrote: Look what happened after 9/11, immediately US lifted the embargo on those F-16s. I'm fairly certain this hasn't happened. I could be Rip Van Winkle :zzz: Bilal

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        • M Marc Clifton

          Not that I need anything MORE to piss me off. India developed the missile with Russia's help. The two countries say they plan to export the missile to developing countries. http://abcnews.go.com/wire/World/ap20030212_1724.html[^] Oh, great. Developing countries??? So, instead of helping to feed and educate people, India is going to ship missiles to "developing countries". ARE YOU PEOPLE NUTS??? I guess us Americans aren't the only ones short on common sense. Now, I know there are a lot of Indians on CP, and I don't have any personal issues with them, I realize this is government stuff, just like I'm not personally responsible for the actions of the dickhead in Washington. I guess I was hoping there was some intelligence somewhere else in the world. [edit]And you know, I can totally understand the reasoning for India to develop missiles to "protect itself from Pakistan", but to EXPORT the damn things to DEVELOPING COUNTRIES just raises my hackles to no end. (BTW, I'm none to happy about the US's weapons export programs either!!!) [/edit] Marc Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
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          That's exactly why I stopped to work for Defence industries. Even if basically the goal is to produce weapons to defend the homeland, it's impossible to know who will actually buy them. These industries are capitalist too, they want to make money and are not embarrassed by moral considerations, whatever the country.

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            Isn't that also a rather selfish point of view from the rich country's side too? I mean selling weapons for their profit to poor (and mostly irresponsible with weapons) people is (i think) almost like asking for wars between "developing" ( :suss: ) countries. Paul ;)

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            Of course its selfish. The purpose of a government in its basic form is selfish isn't it? If my governments primary focus was not on my welfare, I'd have problems. Also, being selfish is very much human nature. And humans are making these decisions.;) BW "We get general information and specific information, but none of the specific information talks about time, place or methods or means..." - Tom Ridge - US Secretary of Homeland Security

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