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  • F Felix Gartsman

    Kant wrote: But before go after solving problems in Iraq, he should solve the Palestine-Isreal conflict. He isn't a magician. Solving the conflict is beyong his powers, and he should focus on doable things - like saving the Iraqi people. Kant wrote: But the way Bush is handling now, you can forget the peace in Middle-East for atleast a decade. The european attitude is what stops peace. Their support for terror by Arafat strengtens him, and prevents new leaders. Until Hamas/Jihad/Tanzim crushed, no palestinian leader will give peace. Where moderate leaders today? London, Paris, Abu-Dabi. They afraid to act. Europe should support them, not Arafat. Only Europe can bring peace, not Bush.

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    But, Felix, if EU acts to try and solve the Palestine-Israel conflict, people can't point the finger back at the US for screwing it up.. :rolleyes: BW "We get general information and specific information, but none of the specific information talks about time, place or methods or means..." - Tom Ridge - US Secretary of Homeland Security

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      Kant wrote: What the United States wants is Iraq's oil woo hoo!!! cheaper gas!!! I can't wait. Prices are up to 1.75USD :wtf: Let's get in there and get our oil! :-D Kant wrote: Iraq will turn oil wells and oil fields into a sea of fire :omg: At least the SUV's in the US have catalytic converters! We'll burn it for them! Disclaimer: The above statements are thick with sarcasm. - Nitron


      "Those that say a task is impossible shouldn't interrupt the ones who are doing it." - Chinese Proverb

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      Alvaro Mendez
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      :laugh: Regards, Alvaro


      All you need in this life is ignorance and confidence, and then success is sure. -- Mark Twain

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      • K Kant

        David Wulff wrote: Alph... Ante... Alpy... well it was 'A' something, Africa ?? Andaman ?? Oh..may be Antartica... ;P One thing I really give hats off to GWB is, the way he turned people attention from Bin Laden to Saddam. That's a classic PR act. It should be for the books. :suss: Follow live World Cup Cricket scores here[^]

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        Michael A Barnhart
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        Kant wrote: That's a classic PR act. Well, I really do not think that is a true assessment. What I am about to write is just some thought I have had over the last few days, so they may not be well aligned but I am going to share them. What happened last summer fall that made Iraq more important? I do believe that Saddam was not compliant with UN resolutions over the past 10 years. But it had never been enough to start a path towards war. With 9/11 the American public has become less secure and there are now some stronger reactions to events from before but how much influence is that? My personal feeling is not that much. If the US has solid evidence it should have either been willing to share it (at least confidentially with other nations leadership) or have made the decision to sit on it and wait. Now for my train of thought: With the events of the last few weeks my news media has published some items I had not paid any attention to before (If it had been presented.) The critical item for me was 38 billion dollars of contracts with Iraq for oil development by France, Russia, and China reported by Deutchbanc(sp?) last fall. These contracts require sanctions to be lifted from Iraq. This effort changes the balance of attention to Iraq and is it enough to then cause the events over the past 6 months? Since the US does not believe sanctions should be lifted it now requires more attention to what is and is not, being done with respect to the UN resolutions from the first Gulf War. Now I do not believe it was the intention of any party to have this effect it appears plausible to me. Again just some thoughts. "I will find a new sig someday."

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          Kant wrote: What the United States wants is Iraq's oil woo hoo!!! cheaper gas!!! I can't wait. Prices are up to 1.75USD :wtf: Let's get in there and get our oil! :-D Kant wrote: Iraq will turn oil wells and oil fields into a sea of fire :omg: At least the SUV's in the US have catalytic converters! We'll burn it for them! Disclaimer: The above statements are thick with sarcasm. - Nitron


          "Those that say a task is impossible shouldn't interrupt the ones who are doing it." - Chinese Proverb

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          Emcee Lam
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          Nitron said it a bit too bluntly, but it is a good thing to protect the oil fields. In order to safe guard the world economy, oil needs to be protected. It's not about greed. It's about jobs. Like it or not, oil moves the machinery of the world economy. Unless that oil is protected, the world --- not just America would suffer economic loss.

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          • N Nitron

            Kant wrote: What the United States wants is Iraq's oil woo hoo!!! cheaper gas!!! I can't wait. Prices are up to 1.75USD :wtf: Let's get in there and get our oil! :-D Kant wrote: Iraq will turn oil wells and oil fields into a sea of fire :omg: At least the SUV's in the US have catalytic converters! We'll burn it for them! Disclaimer: The above statements are thick with sarcasm. - Nitron


            "Those that say a task is impossible shouldn't interrupt the ones who are doing it." - Chinese Proverb

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            Nitron wrote: Disclaimer: The above statements are thick with sarcasm. Even with that I suspect you have been taken seriously X| Elaine The tigress is here :-D

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