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  • C Christian Graus

    SimonS wrote: Come on, Bruce, just because you live in the 3rd world (I do too) doesn't mean you have to enjoy writing VB code. Looks like I have a VB quote on standby when the article my sig points to is removed.... Christian NO MATTER HOW MUCH BIG IS THE WORD SIZE ,THE DATA MUCT BE TRANSPORTED INTO THE CPU. - Vinod Sharma

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    I'm honored Chris, but I think this is getting on ppls nerves a bit. It's not polite to stare and point at Quasimodo[^]. Cheers, Simon "The day I swan around in expensive suits is the day I hope someone puts a bullet in my head.", Chris Carter. animation mechanics in SVG       (latest pic 1) (latest pic 2)

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      Bruce Duncan wrote: Oh, grow up. :laugh: Come on, Bruce, just because you live in the 3rd world (I do too) doesn't mean you have to enjoy writing VB code. Cheers, Simon "The day I swan around in expensive suits is the day I hope someone puts a bullet in my head.", Chris Carter. animation mechanics in SVG       (latest pic 1) (latest pic 2)

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      Bruce Duncan
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      I didn't I say that I enjoy it. :| I'm just getting tired of people that knock things for no good reason. If you're going to try and ridicule a language/whatever, at least put in a little effort.

      Bruce Duncan, CP#9088, CPUA 0xA1EE, Sonork 100.10030
      Blackadder: Baldrick, have you no idea what irony is?
      Baldrick: Yeah, it's like goldy and bronzy only it's made of iron.

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      • S SimonS

        I'm honored Chris, but I think this is getting on ppls nerves a bit. It's not polite to stare and point at Quasimodo[^]. Cheers, Simon "The day I swan around in expensive suits is the day I hope someone puts a bullet in my head.", Chris Carter. animation mechanics in SVG       (latest pic 1) (latest pic 2)

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        Christian Graus
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        SimonS wrote: but I think this is getting on ppls nerves a bit. Really ? Tough..... :P Christian NO MATTER HOW MUCH BIG IS THE WORD SIZE ,THE DATA MUCT BE TRANSPORTED INTO THE CPU. - Vinod Sharma

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        • C Christian Graus

          Paul Watson wrote: Doesn't mean we have to knock VB at every chance either I agree - there are too many obvious chances for there to be time in a day to take them all..... :P Christian NO MATTER HOW MUCH BIG IS THE WORD SIZE ,THE DATA MUCT BE TRANSPORTED INTO THE CPU. - Vinod Sharma

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          Christian Graus wrote: I agree - there are too many obvious chances for there to be time in a day to take them all..... :rolleyes: You really, really need to get some help. :)

          Paul Watson
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            I'm honored Chris, but I think this is getting on ppls nerves a bit. It's not polite to stare and point at Quasimodo[^]. Cheers, Simon "The day I swan around in expensive suits is the day I hope someone puts a bullet in my head.", Chris Carter. animation mechanics in SVG       (latest pic 1) (latest pic 2)

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            SimonS wrote: It's not polite to stare and point at Quasimodo[^]. :omg: Did you see the first result of your search? Scenenews - Paul Is The Devil! (satire)[^] *sigh* :rolleyes:

            Paul Watson
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            Macbeth muttered: I am in blood / Stepped in so far, that should I wade no more, / Returning were as tedious as go o'er Want a job?

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            • C Christian Graus

              SimonS wrote: but I think this is getting on ppls nerves a bit. Really ? Tough..... :P Christian NO MATTER HOW MUCH BIG IS THE WORD SIZE ,THE DATA MUCT BE TRANSPORTED INTO THE CPU. - Vinod Sharma

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              Paul Watson
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              Christian Graus wrote: Really ? Tough..... Thing is you make clever remarks. I get a chuckle out of them. But stupid shit like "Har har har MustInherit har har har" is just weak and sad. Why some people are so fixated on something they hate is just... it is just sad. Make a clever joke and I will laugh along. Make a stupid one and I just sigh, give you a 1 and move on. It ain't helping.

              Paul Watson
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              Macbeth muttered: I am in blood / Stepped in so far, that should I wade no more, / Returning were as tedious as go o'er Want a job?

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              • C ColinDavies

                Paul Watson wrote: Must all keywords be indecipherable nonsense? What is so indecipherable about "abstract" ? IMHO: I think using an explanation of how the keyword is to be used is not as good as using a descriptor. Regardz Colin J Davies

                Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin

                I'm guessing the concept of a 2 hour movie showing two guys eating a meal and talking struck them as 'foreign' Rob Manderson wrote:

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                Colin Davies wrote: What is so indecipherable about "abstract" ? I never said abstract was indecipherable. But Michel is implying MustInheret is stupid because it is... well what? What is stupid about it? It says what it means and even though I do not do VB.NET I think it is a better term than abstract. First time I came across abstract I had to go to the help to figure out just what it meant. MustInherit though is totally clear. Colin Davies wrote: IMHO: I think using an explanation of how the keyword is to be used is not as good as using a descriptor. I think both cases can be made for different situations. No one rule works.

                Paul Watson
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                Macbeth muttered: I am in blood / Stepped in so far, that should I wade no more, / Returning were as tedious as go o'er Want a job?

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                • P Paul Watson

                  Christian Graus wrote: Really ? Tough..... Thing is you make clever remarks. I get a chuckle out of them. But stupid shit like "Har har har MustInherit har har har" is just weak and sad. Why some people are so fixated on something they hate is just... it is just sad. Make a clever joke and I will laugh along. Make a stupid one and I just sigh, give you a 1 and move on. It ain't helping.

                  Paul Watson
                  Bluegrass
                  Cape Town, South Africa

                  Macbeth muttered: I am in blood / Stepped in so far, that should I wade no more, / Returning were as tedious as go o'er Want a job?

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                  I agree. You took the words out of my mouth. (or rather, from my fingertips)

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                  Blackadder: Baldrick, have you no idea what irony is?
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                  • P Paul Watson

                    SimonS wrote: It's not polite to stare and point at Quasimodo[^]. :omg: Did you see the first result of your search? Scenenews - Paul Is The Devil! (satire)[^] *sigh* :rolleyes:

                    Paul Watson
                    Bluegrass
                    Cape Town, South Africa

                    Macbeth muttered: I am in blood / Stepped in so far, that should I wade no more, / Returning were as tedious as go o'er Want a job?

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                    Andreas Saurwein
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                    Yeah, I stumbled across this one too. :-D


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                    • P Paul Watson

                      SimonS wrote: It's not polite to stare and point at Quasimodo[^]. :omg: Did you see the first result of your search? Scenenews - Paul Is The Devil! (satire)[^] *sigh* :rolleyes:

                      Paul Watson
                      Bluegrass
                      Cape Town, South Africa

                      Macbeth muttered: I am in blood / Stepped in so far, that should I wade no more, / Returning were as tedious as go o'er Want a job?

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                      Paul Watson wrote: Scenenews - Paul Is The Devil! (satire)[^] f** you and suck my d*** you rat bastards :omg::wtf: Now if that isn't a good way to sign off a resignation I don't know what is. :~ Cheers, Simon "I ask candidates to create an object model of a chicken.", Bruce Eckel on interviewing programmers. animation mechanics in SVG       (latest pic 1) (latest pic 2)

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                      • L Le centriste

                        The equivalent for the abstract keyword in VB is MustInherit. Excuse while I'm rolling on the floor laughing my ass off. :laugh:

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                        Actually, that's a lot less ABSTRACT and conveys more MEANING. Marc Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
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                        • P Paul Watson

                          Christian Graus wrote: Really ? Tough..... Thing is you make clever remarks. I get a chuckle out of them. But stupid shit like "Har har har MustInherit har har har" is just weak and sad. Why some people are so fixated on something they hate is just... it is just sad. Make a clever joke and I will laugh along. Make a stupid one and I just sigh, give you a 1 and move on. It ain't helping.

                          Paul Watson
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                          Macbeth muttered: I am in blood / Stepped in so far, that should I wade no more, / Returning were as tedious as go o'er Want a job?

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                          The Beavis and Butthead of the programming world ! Elaine The tigress is here :-D

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                          • C Christian Graus

                            There isn't one. When generics are introduced, it will be made apparent by the presence of the <> only. The syntax is actually very clean, I like it a lot. Much neater than C++ code, to do the same thing. Dunno how far C# will go in allowing specialisation though. Christian NO MATTER HOW MUCH BIG IS THE WORD SIZE ,THE DATA MUCT BE TRANSPORTED INTO THE CPU. - Vinod Sharma

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                            sarcasm. -c


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                              The equivalent for the abstract keyword in VB is MustInherit. Excuse while I'm rolling on the floor laughing my ass off. :laugh:

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                              >The equivalent for the abstract keyword in VB is MustInherit. I've never heard of an 'abstract' keyword in C++ . and Even in java it doesn't make much sense.. --------------------------------------------------

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                                Colin Davies wrote: What is so indecipherable about "abstract" ? I never said abstract was indecipherable. But Michel is implying MustInheret is stupid because it is... well what? What is stupid about it? It says what it means and even though I do not do VB.NET I think it is a better term than abstract. First time I came across abstract I had to go to the help to figure out just what it meant. MustInherit though is totally clear. Colin Davies wrote: IMHO: I think using an explanation of how the keyword is to be used is not as good as using a descriptor. I think both cases can be made for different situations. No one rule works.

                                Paul Watson
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                                Macbeth muttered: I am in blood / Stepped in so far, that should I wade no more, / Returning were as tedious as go o'er Want a job?

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                                I didn't say it was stupid, I said it was funny ;)

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                                  >The equivalent for the abstract keyword in VB is MustInherit. I've never heard of an 'abstract' keyword in C++ . and Even in java it doesn't make much sense.. --------------------------------------------------

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                                  In fact, C++ lacks this. What I find funny in VB, is why did they choose such a word. Wouldn't abstract have done the trick? Or are VB developers too far away from OO concepts that they would be completely lost? In fact, I ask myself: Why did they do a language like VB.NET? It is definitely ugly, and C# is far better adapted for that. It looks like MS inspired themselves from Java, which is good. They argue it is to attract VB developers to .NET (and I think the same about managed C++). Do they think that VB developers are too dumb to learn a new language? Anyway, learning VB.NET must be like learning a new language, even to VB developers. At the company where I work, there is a lot of VB developers, and they are learning .NET (and developing small production application) using C#. And they like it! If there is the Inherits keyword in a class declaration, it means that it inherits from another class. If it has MustInherit, does it mean it must absolutely inherit? abstract definitely make more sense to me.

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                                    >The equivalent for the abstract keyword in VB is MustInherit. I've never heard of an 'abstract' keyword in C++ . and Even in java it doesn't make much sense.. --------------------------------------------------

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                                    Why does it not make much sense in Java?, I use it all the time. By the way, the C++ equivalent of the 'abstract' keyword is making a pure virtual function. "After all it's just text at the end of the day. - Colin Davies "For example, when a VB programmer comes to my house, they may say 'does your pool need cleaning, sir ?' " - Christian Graus

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                                      Why does it not make much sense in Java?, I use it all the time. By the way, the C++ equivalent of the 'abstract' keyword is making a pure virtual function. "After all it's just text at the end of the day. - Colin Davies "For example, when a VB programmer comes to my house, they may say 'does your pool need cleaning, sir ?' " - Christian Graus

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                                      >Why does it not make much sense in Java?, I use it all the >time. Well it doesn't make much sense in Java because it is optional to declare a class as abstract. Whereas a class is implicitly abstract if a method in it is abstract. Which is the same as having a pure virtual function in C++. But, unlike in C++, an abstract function cannot have an implementation in Java. I don't see why that is. Bijesh --------------------------------------------------

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                                        In fact, C++ lacks this. What I find funny in VB, is why did they choose such a word. Wouldn't abstract have done the trick? Or are VB developers too far away from OO concepts that they would be completely lost? In fact, I ask myself: Why did they do a language like VB.NET? It is definitely ugly, and C# is far better adapted for that. It looks like MS inspired themselves from Java, which is good. They argue it is to attract VB developers to .NET (and I think the same about managed C++). Do they think that VB developers are too dumb to learn a new language? Anyway, learning VB.NET must be like learning a new language, even to VB developers. At the company where I work, there is a lot of VB developers, and they are learning .NET (and developing small production application) using C#. And they like it! If there is the Inherits keyword in a class declaration, it means that it inherits from another class. If it has MustInherit, does it mean it must absolutely inherit? abstract definitely make more sense to me.

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                                        >Or are VB developers too far away from OO concepts that they would be completely lost? Thats exactly what I thought too. Its like they are trying to provide all the features of an OO language while hiding the concepts. --------------------------------------------------

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                                          >Why does it not make much sense in Java?, I use it all the >time. Well it doesn't make much sense in Java because it is optional to declare a class as abstract. Whereas a class is implicitly abstract if a method in it is abstract. Which is the same as having a pure virtual function in C++. But, unlike in C++, an abstract function cannot have an implementation in Java. I don't see why that is. Bijesh --------------------------------------------------

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                                          Bijesh wrote: Well it doesn't make much sense in Java because it is optional to declare a class as abstract. Whereas a class is implicitly abstract if a method in it is abstract. The difference is that you can make a class complete and mark it as abstract. The usefulness of it? I don't know.. I guess it's a nice way to show the programmer that a particular class should be inherited and specialized in some way, while still providing default implementations. I can see this useful for the template pattern as defined by Gamma et al. -- Say it darling Doesn’t seem like you want that kind of honey, honey

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