Chemical weapons

Le centriste

Marc Clifton wrote: I think it could be argued that the gas chambers of Auschwitz (sp?), et al could be considered a WMD, or Hilter's V2 rockets. And the kamakaze suicide style of the Japanese might be considered a WMD. I think you are out of your mind. This is not the same thing.

Nitron

Jonny Newman wrote: I still think its funny that the US is so anti-WMD when it is the only country to have used them against another country. (Hiroshima Nagasaki) What is funny about it? Maybe I don't get it, but the hydrogen bombs you mention pale in comparison to nukes we have now. By several orders of magnitude. How could that possibly be even remotely funny? - Nitron

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Nitron

Michel Prévost wrote: I think you are out of your mind. This is not the same thing. he's surely referring to killing thousands of innocent people for similarity, I hope you didn't think he was refering to atomic reacations as the killing agent. - Nitron

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ColinDavies

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Michel Prévost wrote: This is not the same thing. Dead is Dead. d'jaknow?

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Le centriste

The point he's trying to make is that the US is the only country to have ever used WMD against another country (japan). As a side note, US is the only country to have used chemical in war (vietnam).

PJ Arends

Michel Prévost wrote: As a side note, US is the only country to have used chemical in war (vietnam). BS! You forget about WWI. both sides used all sorts of chemicals on each other. Iraq used them in the Iran-Iraq war (maybe Iran did too, don't recall) I am sure there have been many others.

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peterchen

As I see it, even a conventional bomb is an WMD: - One-click interface to kill many - You can't run, you can't hide, you can't surrender (unlike someone sitting in the trenches) Yes, wars should be fought again with sticks and stones, and the leaders should run ahead (ride? Which horse has deserved that?)

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peterchen

Yes, Iran did too, and the "mass-slaughtered civilians" got caught inbetween.

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KaRl

You forget WWI, chemical warfares are WMD

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Marc Clifton

This is not the same thing. Why? What's the difference between dropping a bomb on a city vs. herding entire populations into gas chambers, and in the process killing millions more than died by atomic bombs? Marc Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
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Jon Newman

OK, in reply to all the replies i got to this. By funny, i meant, its a bit ironic that they have such a passion against them. And also, if you want a generic description of what WMD's are and where to draw the lines. The only 'real' WMD is human beings. Dubya will be a WMD if he goes ahead. Saddam is a WMD. The guy next door could be a WMD if he filled a can with anthrax and set it off in a large buldings ventilation system. Its all a matter of opinion. However, Dubya seems to mean CNB weapons. Which to me means, obviously nukes, large rockets with large quantities of poison gas or rockets with a bi-agent that could take out a city. My definition of 'mass destruction' is a city-wide disaster/explosion/whatever or more, i.e. a nuke, a rocket of poison gas etc...
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Lost User

Sadly, I agree. Knee jerk responses to this kind of subject are depressing. The tigress is here :-D

Nitron

I understand that. What I don't get is how it's funny? I don't recall anyone laughing when the US ended the war with [edit]atom[/edit] bombs. - Nitron

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Dy

Funny as in ironic, not as in "ha-ha". Just a fugure of speach.

Dylan

Rohit Sinha

Jonny Newman wrote: By funny, i meant, its a bit ironic that they have such a passion against them. Why don't you edit your original post to indicate this? It seems a lot of people are taking the word "funny" literally. And besides, I think it can be argued that because the US has used those weapons, they know what kind of catastrophic effect it can have, and don't want it to happen again.
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Chris Maunder

I think he meant: funny == ironic cheers, Chris Maunder

Nitron

Dylan Kenneally wrote: Funny as in ironic Ok, then how is it ironic? Since the claim is that the US was the only country ever to use WMD, then only the US should have the right to say they know the results first hand, and never want it repeated. Remember Nagasaki and Hiroshima was a different time, with different thinking. Like Slavery or the Roman Empire. Sure it seems like a bad idea looking back on it, but the times and the rationalization was different. - Nitron

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Chris Losinger

Marc Clifton wrote: What's the difference between dropping a bomb on a city vs. herding entire populations into gas chambers in one case, you do the job from a plane 3 miles up (or these days, from an underground bunker or a submarine). in the other, you stand there and watch actual people walk into the chamber. one is cold and sterile, the other is brutal and cruel. i don't think either is really much less evil than the other. -c

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Nitron

OK, we cleared up the "funny" part. Now you say: Jonny Newman wrote: the US is so anti-WMD when it is the only country to have used them against another country Well, then does this not grant the US the right to be the only country to claim they know first-hand the internal consequences of using such weapons? Thus the US does not want such a thing repeated. No other country can make that claim. - Nitron

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