Working hours
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I sometimes read in forums like this about developers working weekends and late nights etc. I have only rarely worked over and above the hours set out in my contract (I once found an answering machine message from my boss on a saturday which I ignored). At my current employer there are only two people who would work late without questioning it. It seems to me that most companies don't have a culture of working out of hours (except maybe games companies??). If I was asked to work an evening more than once every two or three weeks I'd leave asap. Are there any employers out there who can shed light on this? I am a very good developer/designer (currently under-utilised :| ) with five years progressive experience, but as my experience increases I am concerned that I might end up attracting companies which have an out of hours culture.. Could this be falsely perceived as lack of motivation?
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I sometimes read in forums like this about developers working weekends and late nights etc. I have only rarely worked over and above the hours set out in my contract (I once found an answering machine message from my boss on a saturday which I ignored). At my current employer there are only two people who would work late without questioning it. It seems to me that most companies don't have a culture of working out of hours (except maybe games companies??). If I was asked to work an evening more than once every two or three weeks I'd leave asap. Are there any employers out there who can shed light on this? I am a very good developer/designer (currently under-utilised :| ) with five years progressive experience, but as my experience increases I am concerned that I might end up attracting companies which have an out of hours culture.. Could this be falsely perceived as lack of motivation?
You come off sounding like a contractor, or at the very least, someone who thinks there will always be a job for them! You should try looking at the current crop of job offers - they all want young single college kids they can underpay and overwork. You sound like you're shooting for management-level stuff, and nobody is looking for that any more.
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You come off sounding like a contractor, or at the very least, someone who thinks there will always be a job for them! You should try looking at the current crop of job offers - they all want young single college kids they can underpay and overwork. You sound like you're shooting for management-level stuff, and nobody is looking for that any more.
All I mean is that I don't like work to interrupt my life outside work, and I've never experienced a job that expects this on a regular basis although I have read on numerous occasions about this being the case. Does it really happen? Everyone is underpayed and overworked. Except me. I'm underpayed and underworked! I don't know which is worse!! I think there are lots of jobs out there for experienced and motivated people.
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All I mean is that I don't like work to interrupt my life outside work, and I've never experienced a job that expects this on a regular basis although I have read on numerous occasions about this being the case. Does it really happen? Everyone is underpayed and overworked. Except me. I'm underpayed and underworked! I don't know which is worse!! I think there are lots of jobs out there for experienced and motivated people.
Yes, there certainly are companies who expect 24 hours a day work for 5 hours pay. I worked for one 10 years. At the end, I was so burned out I couldn't stand to drive to work anymore. The very thought made me want to throw up. Although I still work a lot of overtime, its because I really like my work, not because my company expects it. In fact, my boss often has to tell me to get out. I'm older now, my children are grown, so its not like having a young family to go home to.
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I sometimes read in forums like this about developers working weekends and late nights etc. I have only rarely worked over and above the hours set out in my contract (I once found an answering machine message from my boss on a saturday which I ignored). At my current employer there are only two people who would work late without questioning it. It seems to me that most companies don't have a culture of working out of hours (except maybe games companies??). If I was asked to work an evening more than once every two or three weeks I'd leave asap. Are there any employers out there who can shed light on this? I am a very good developer/designer (currently under-utilised :| ) with five years progressive experience, but as my experience increases I am concerned that I might end up attracting companies which have an out of hours culture.. Could this be falsely perceived as lack of motivation?
It's an interesting this, but when I have the day off, I usually spend the morning with my children and the afternoon coding... I'm not an employer, but my perception as an employee is that I could see where I'd get unhappy if I was *expected* to *always* work long hours, although my contract makes provision for them in times of crisis. However, given a happy environment, I can't think of anything (much) I'd rather do than work on my code anyhow. Christian The content of this post is not necessarily the opinion of my yadda yadda yadda. To understand recursion, we must first understand recursion.
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I sometimes read in forums like this about developers working weekends and late nights etc. I have only rarely worked over and above the hours set out in my contract (I once found an answering machine message from my boss on a saturday which I ignored). At my current employer there are only two people who would work late without questioning it. It seems to me that most companies don't have a culture of working out of hours (except maybe games companies??). If I was asked to work an evening more than once every two or three weeks I'd leave asap. Are there any employers out there who can shed light on this? I am a very good developer/designer (currently under-utilised :| ) with five years progressive experience, but as my experience increases I am concerned that I might end up attracting companies which have an out of hours culture.. Could this be falsely perceived as lack of motivation?
Hey GazWaz, I tend to agree with you. I have found that some companies delay in getting the work to you, don't offset the deadlines and expect you to still get things done on time. In addition to this should the customer have ANY query at all you are expected drop what you are doing and address it. My approach is to tell my manager if I'm not going to finish on time, assuming an 8 hour day 5 day week (including leave!). If they then mis-manage it they can just deal. Of course if I screw-up I'll work longer or if a disaster happen I'll also work longer - but I'll make sure they know and appriciate it. I have found that I get at least just as much work done as the people who put in long hours - I like to think of it as working 'smarter' not longer. It sounds a bit egotistical I agree, but some developers are just slower. (FYI: I have recently moved from permanent to contract and it things are just the same) My 2Cents