My Article is in the Wrong Section
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Hi CP I'm wondering why ToDoList[^] now appears in
Web Development > Applications and Toolswhen it's a desktop application that used to reside inDesktop Development > Applications and Tools(which no longer exists)? Rgds.dan.g. AbstractSpoon Software email: abstractspoon-todolist-support(at)googlegroups(dot)com
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Hi CP I'm wondering why ToDoList[^] now appears in
Web Development > Applications and Toolswhen it's a desktop application that used to reside inDesktop Development > Applications and Tools(which no longer exists)? Rgds.dan.g. AbstractSpoon Software email: abstractspoon-todolist-support(at)googlegroups(dot)com
You're correct - there is no Desktop counterpart to that section, and you've touched on a huge issue we've been discussing here for a few months: Do we even need sections and chapters anymore? Most people search or find articles via links or Google searches. The views of the section pages are so minimal as to be an error bar on our graphs. Our aim was to have articles live in Topic sections so that you could see all the desktop, or web, or mobile etc articles in one place, but articles don't necessarily live only in one place. The taxonomy has become more and more out of date, confusing to new players, and limiting. So: instead of sections why not simply have home pages per tag. Hit the "desktop" tag and you get all the desktop articles. Hit the "Mobile" tag or the iOS tag and you get all those articles. Way simpler. Thoughts?
cheers Chris Maunder
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You're correct - there is no Desktop counterpart to that section, and you've touched on a huge issue we've been discussing here for a few months: Do we even need sections and chapters anymore? Most people search or find articles via links or Google searches. The views of the section pages are so minimal as to be an error bar on our graphs. Our aim was to have articles live in Topic sections so that you could see all the desktop, or web, or mobile etc articles in one place, but articles don't necessarily live only in one place. The taxonomy has become more and more out of date, confusing to new players, and limiting. So: instead of sections why not simply have home pages per tag. Hit the "desktop" tag and you get all the desktop articles. Hit the "Mobile" tag or the iOS tag and you get all those articles. Way simpler. Thoughts?
cheers Chris Maunder
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You're correct - there is no Desktop counterpart to that section, and you've touched on a huge issue we've been discussing here for a few months: Do we even need sections and chapters anymore? Most people search or find articles via links or Google searches. The views of the section pages are so minimal as to be an error bar on our graphs. Our aim was to have articles live in Topic sections so that you could see all the desktop, or web, or mobile etc articles in one place, but articles don't necessarily live only in one place. The taxonomy has become more and more out of date, confusing to new players, and limiting. So: instead of sections why not simply have home pages per tag. Hit the "desktop" tag and you get all the desktop articles. Hit the "Mobile" tag or the iOS tag and you get all those articles. Way simpler. Thoughts?
cheers Chris Maunder
As a personal opinion I see no use for the sections. I usually search by defining the most important keywords for what I want to find and from that point of view the sections bring no aid since they are too 'wide'. I believe that searching by using tags would be much better option. However, I wouldn't limit the search to a single tag. Instead I'd let the user to define all the tags needed for the search.
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You're correct - there is no Desktop counterpart to that section, and you've touched on a huge issue we've been discussing here for a few months: Do we even need sections and chapters anymore? Most people search or find articles via links or Google searches. The views of the section pages are so minimal as to be an error bar on our graphs. Our aim was to have articles live in Topic sections so that you could see all the desktop, or web, or mobile etc articles in one place, but articles don't necessarily live only in one place. The taxonomy has become more and more out of date, confusing to new players, and limiting. So: instead of sections why not simply have home pages per tag. Hit the "desktop" tag and you get all the desktop articles. Hit the "Mobile" tag or the iOS tag and you get all those articles. Way simpler. Thoughts?
cheers Chris Maunder
Good idea, but does it need to be mutually exclusive? Why not make the sections and chapters dynamically created from existing tags. You should even tell people to add tags in the order of preference to make it more useful. After all, some people add every possible existing tag to get a better hit ratio. I have more ideas if you want them.
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello
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You're correct - there is no Desktop counterpart to that section, and you've touched on a huge issue we've been discussing here for a few months: Do we even need sections and chapters anymore? Most people search or find articles via links or Google searches. The views of the section pages are so minimal as to be an error bar on our graphs. Our aim was to have articles live in Topic sections so that you could see all the desktop, or web, or mobile etc articles in one place, but articles don't necessarily live only in one place. The taxonomy has become more and more out of date, confusing to new players, and limiting. So: instead of sections why not simply have home pages per tag. Hit the "desktop" tag and you get all the desktop articles. Hit the "Mobile" tag or the iOS tag and you get all those articles. Way simpler. Thoughts?
cheers Chris Maunder
Hi Chris Given that 'tools' are a small sub-section of this site I agree that very simple compartmentalising is probably required. However, I personally only ever use compiled tools so I definitely don't want to see framework-based 'scripted' solutions (eg. Perl or PHP) appear when I'm looking for 'tools'. As for accessing source-code I don't have a strong opinion. So perhaps it is time for a rethink on how info is accessed on CP... FYI, I didn't get notified of your (or anyone else's) response to my question. Just a heads-up.
.dan.g. AbstractSpoon Software email: abstractspoon-todolist-support(at)googlegroups(dot)com
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Good idea, but does it need to be mutually exclusive? Why not make the sections and chapters dynamically created from existing tags. You should even tell people to add tags in the order of preference to make it more useful. After all, some people add every possible existing tag to get a better hit ratio. I have more ideas if you want them.
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello
Jörgen Andersson wrote:
Why not make the sections and chapters dynamically created from existing tags
That's essentially what would happen.
Jörgen Andersson wrote:
You should even tell people to add tags in the order of preference to make it more useful
Nice idea but you can't build consistency around this because people are extremely inconsistent about tags. We do have a system that trims, intelligently, the tag list provided. I'm open to more ideas. Sean and I have been nutting this one out for a while and we're about 95% there.
cheers Chris Maunder
