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  • C Chris Austin

    As opposed to you? What makes your opinion more informed? What makes you any less an Idiot? Hey don't worry, I can handle it. I took something. I can see things no one else can see. Why are you dressed like that? - Jack Burton

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    Chris Austin wrote: What makes you any less an Idiot The first thing is that I don't have to resort to insults to try to make my point. The other difference is that I don't hold myself above others because of some celebrity. My comment was based on the way that most people tend to add extra weight to someone's opinion who is "famous" because of their celebrity. Maybe you think that the Dixie Chicks are experts at US foreign policy, I don't. I do agree they have a right to express their opinion, but I think they should be viewed based on the knowledge of the person making the comment. Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

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      Baaaa. They were just doing it to get out of school for the day. :-D Quote from a clever bloke : "I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones." - Albert Einstein

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      David Wulff
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      LOL! You get my five! :-D


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      • A Alvaro Mendez

        I don't know David. This all seems highly suspicious to me. A bunch of children marching around against a war that's supposed to bring freedom and prosperity to an oppressed country -- a country where most people (much less children) don't have mobile phones, but the dictator has several palaces. It's kind of depressing how the left-wing propaganda machine is able to easily cloud the minds of naive youths. God help us! Regards, Alvaro


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        David Wulff
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        I agree with Fazlul - these kids are not mindless regurgitators, they have deeply thought through their views and wishes on this topic. Enough so that it seems they were able to, at least locally, hijack a walkout intended for university students without the knowledge of the authorities, and did so on a large scale. Credit where credit is due...


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        • A Alvaro Mendez

          That's the thing. These are kids. If I'm some left-wing nut parent, I can just endoctrinate my kid with the "war is bad because people die and the US are emperialists" message. Once he's as passionate about it as I am, he'll easily start drilling the message to his school friends, and before you know it, you have all these kids looking for bigger and better ways to parrot their message. It's kind of scary. I hope I'm wrong, but I can't help but feel suspicious that a few parents are well aware of what's going on. :suss: Regards, Alvaro


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          David Wulff
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          First I agree with Fazlul, and now I agree with Chris - Bull Shit! That sort of thing just doesn't happen in this part of the world. Maybe as you head north or east towards the major cities and the slums, but here people know very well which way their head screws on. It's funny (funny 'odd' not funny 'ha ha') but I've seen more children fourteen to seventeen giving their parents - and politicians - lectures about such issues than the other way around. When you don't have to deal with drugs and bullying on the scale that the inner cities do, schools become quite flourishing little communities of intellect, and there is none so terrible an opponent than a child who believes he has been wronged and has a strong head on his shoulders... As Marc said it seems that there may be cultural differences at play here, as hard and sad as I find that to imagine. :(


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          • B brianwelsch

            Revolting, indeed! Disgusting little buggers. :rolleyes: BW "We get general information and specific information, but none of the specific information talks about time, place or methods or means..." - Tom Ridge - US Secretary of Homeland Security

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            David Wulff
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            I've been saying that since kindergarten. :rolleyes:


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              Chris Austin wrote: What makes you any less an Idiot The first thing is that I don't have to resort to insults to try to make my point. The other difference is that I don't hold myself above others because of some celebrity. My comment was based on the way that most people tend to add extra weight to someone's opinion who is "famous" because of their celebrity. Maybe you think that the Dixie Chicks are experts at US foreign policy, I don't. I do agree they have a right to express their opinion, but I think they should be viewed based on the knowledge of the person making the comment. Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

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              Doug Goulden wrote: The first thing is that I don't have to resort to insults to try to make my point. Neither does he, but you like to jump on the accusation wagon fast enough. He didn't call you an idiot; idiot. :laugh:


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                Chris Austin wrote: What makes you any less an Idiot The first thing is that I don't have to resort to insults to try to make my point. The other difference is that I don't hold myself above others because of some celebrity. My comment was based on the way that most people tend to add extra weight to someone's opinion who is "famous" because of their celebrity. Maybe you think that the Dixie Chicks are experts at US foreign policy, I don't. I do agree they have a right to express their opinion, but I think they should be viewed based on the knowledge of the person making the comment. Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

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                Doug Goulden wrote: The first thing is that I don't have to resort to insults to try to make my point. So, "she's a regular rocket scientist" is not intended as an insult? It is everywhere I have ever lived. And I never intended to insult you, if you took it that way then there is nothing I can do about it. Doug Goulden wrote: Maybe you think that the Dixie Chicks are experts at US foreign policy, I don't. I don't even think they are experts in music. But, they do have a right (as you said) to express their opinion any time they want on any forum they choose. It is up to individuals to educate themselves; far too many people (on both sides of the argument) are simply choosing to follow the crowd in this whole affair. Hey don't worry, I can handle it. I took something. I can see things no one else can see. Why are you dressed like that? - Jack Burton

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                  Doug Goulden wrote: The first thing is that I don't have to resort to insults to try to make my point. So, "she's a regular rocket scientist" is not intended as an insult? It is everywhere I have ever lived. And I never intended to insult you, if you took it that way then there is nothing I can do about it. Doug Goulden wrote: Maybe you think that the Dixie Chicks are experts at US foreign policy, I don't. I don't even think they are experts in music. But, they do have a right (as you said) to express their opinion any time they want on any forum they choose. It is up to individuals to educate themselves; far too many people (on both sides of the argument) are simply choosing to follow the crowd in this whole affair. Hey don't worry, I can handle it. I took something. I can see things no one else can see. Why are you dressed like that? - Jack Burton

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                  Chris Austin wrote: So, "she's a regular rocket scientist" is not intended as an insult No, more a statement of fact:laugh:;P Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

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                  • A Alvaro Mendez

                    That's the thing. These are kids. If I'm some left-wing nut parent, I can just endoctrinate my kid with the "war is bad because people die and the US are emperialists" message. Once he's as passionate about it as I am, he'll easily start drilling the message to his school friends, and before you know it, you have all these kids looking for bigger and better ways to parrot their message. It's kind of scary. I hope I'm wrong, but I can't help but feel suspicious that a few parents are well aware of what's going on. :suss: Regards, Alvaro


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                    Alvaro Mendez wrote: If I'm some left-wing nut parent, I can just endoctrinate my kid with the "war is bad because people die and the US are emperialists" message all hail the new Political Correctness. the poor oppressed right thought they had it bad when they couldn't bring up the issues of race or sex in public discussions without being pooh-pooh'd. imagine their outrage if they weren't allowed to criticize the president without being deemed an unpatriotic, America-hating, terrorist "nut". oh wait, it seems that's already happened: http://www.nationalreview.com/frum/frum031903.asp[^] -c


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                    • D Doug Goulden

                      Chris Austin wrote: What makes you any less an Idiot The first thing is that I don't have to resort to insults to try to make my point. The other difference is that I don't hold myself above others because of some celebrity. My comment was based on the way that most people tend to add extra weight to someone's opinion who is "famous" because of their celebrity. Maybe you think that the Dixie Chicks are experts at US foreign policy, I don't. I do agree they have a right to express their opinion, but I think they should be viewed based on the knowledge of the person making the comment. Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

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                      KaRl
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                      Doug Goulden wrote: The first thing is that I don't have to resort to insults to try to make my point. liar ;P


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                      • C Chris Austin

                        BullShit! While this war may have been necassary for a long time, what gives you or anybody else the right to tell a parent what philophsy to teach their children as long as it dosent break any laws. Or are the freedoms and rights that you seem to be in favor of only valid if it agrees with your world view? Hey don't worry, I can handle it. I took something. I can see things no one else can see. Why are you dressed like that? - Jack Burton

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                        So is this how you fight bullshit? With more bullshit? When did I say they don't have such rights? I just questioned the apparent innocence of this whole thing. And I'm not saying I'm right, I'm just saying I'm suspicious. If a bunch of white kids somehow manage to organize a protest in favor of the Klu Klux Klan, what would you think? Regards, Alvaro


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                          Doug Goulden wrote: The first thing is that I don't have to resort to insults to try to make my point. liar ;P


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                          Ouch ;P:laugh: I was juss kiddin' yah..... Hey answer my new post Frenchy;P Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

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                            So is this how you fight bullshit? With more bullshit? When did I say they don't have such rights? I just questioned the apparent innocence of this whole thing. And I'm not saying I'm right, I'm just saying I'm suspicious. If a bunch of white kids somehow manage to organize a protest in favor of the Klu Klux Klan, what would you think? Regards, Alvaro


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                            Alvaro Mendez wrote: If a bunch of white kids somehow manage to organize a protest in favor of the Klu Klux Klan, what would you think? A lot less than if a bunch of black kids somehow manage to organize a protest in favor of the Klu Klux Klan. :~


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                              First I agree with Fazlul, and now I agree with Chris - Bull Shit! That sort of thing just doesn't happen in this part of the world. Maybe as you head north or east towards the major cities and the slums, but here people know very well which way their head screws on. It's funny (funny 'odd' not funny 'ha ha') but I've seen more children fourteen to seventeen giving their parents - and politicians - lectures about such issues than the other way around. When you don't have to deal with drugs and bullying on the scale that the inner cities do, schools become quite flourishing little communities of intellect, and there is none so terrible an opponent than a child who believes he has been wronged and has a strong head on his shoulders... As Marc said it seems that there may be cultural differences at play here, as hard and sad as I find that to imagine. :(


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                              Think about this David. These "communities of intellect" -- how do they happen in the first place? Do kids just organize them? You think they get tired of watching TV, playing video games, chasing girls, playing sports, etc. and decide to have political discussions which eventually lead to marches? Well, if that's the case, then great! I just hope at least some of them are able to understand the need for this war. Regards, Alvaro


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                              • D Doug Goulden

                                Ouch ;P:laugh: I was juss kiddin' yah..... Hey answer my new post Frenchy;P Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

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                                ;) Keep cool, man, have a drink :-D


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                                • A Alvaro Mendez

                                  Think about this David. These "communities of intellect" -- how do they happen in the first place? Do kids just organize them? You think they get tired of watching TV, playing video games, chasing girls, playing sports, etc. and decide to have political discussions which eventually lead to marches? Well, if that's the case, then great! I just hope at least some of them are able to understand the need for this war. Regards, Alvaro


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                                  Alvaro Mendez wrote: Do kids just organize them? You think they get tired of watching TV, playing video games, chasing girls, playing sports, etc. and decide to have political discussions which eventually lead to marches? Yes to all of those. And I'd be very worried if that was not the case too! :eek:


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                                  • A Alvaro Mendez

                                    So is this how you fight bullshit? With more bullshit? When did I say they don't have such rights? I just questioned the apparent innocence of this whole thing. And I'm not saying I'm right, I'm just saying I'm suspicious. If a bunch of white kids somehow manage to organize a protest in favor of the Klu Klux Klan, what would you think? Regards, Alvaro


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                                    Alvaro Mendez wrote: When did I say they don't have such rights? Maybe I took it the wrong way. But, to me you seemed to intone that so-called liberal parents shouldn't share their philosophy with their children. Alvaro Mendez wrote: If a bunch of white kids somehow manage to organize a protest in favor of the Klu Klux Klan, what would you think? I'd think that they were wrong. My opinion. And, I sincerely believe that people make their own decisions even kids....I know my world view has never been perfectly in agreement with my parents. Hey don't worry, I can handle it. I took something. I can see things no one else can see. Why are you dressed like that? - Jack Burton

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                                      ;) Keep cool, man, have a drink :-D


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                                      Gotta a deadline, need more caffeine .....:mad::mad::mad: :laugh: Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

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                                      • A Alvaro Mendez

                                        Think about this David. These "communities of intellect" -- how do they happen in the first place? Do kids just organize them? You think they get tired of watching TV, playing video games, chasing girls, playing sports, etc. and decide to have political discussions which eventually lead to marches? Well, if that's the case, then great! I just hope at least some of them are able to understand the need for this war. Regards, Alvaro


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                                        Alvaro Mendez wrote: You think they get tired of watching TV, playing video games, chasing girls, playing sports, etc. and decide to have political discussions which eventually lead to marches? Wow Alvaro, you don't give the kids much credit. I know that when I was a kid I didn't have time to watch TV et all. I was too busy and I (still) hated sitting still for more than an hour. Also, I remember that a lot of my classmates were very aware of current events and politics behind them. Hey don't worry, I can handle it. I took something. I can see things no one else can see. Why are you dressed like that? - Jack Burton

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                                          Gotta a deadline, need more caffeine .....:mad::mad::mad: :laugh: Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

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                                          I sympathize :)


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