Revolting Schoolchildren!

Chris Losinger

Alvaro Mendez wrote: If I'm some left-wing nut parent, I can just endoctrinate my kid with the "war is bad because people die and the US are emperialists" message all hail the new Political Correctness. the poor oppressed right thought they had it bad when they couldn't bring up the issues of race or sex in public discussions without being pooh-pooh'd. imagine their outrage if they weren't allowed to criticize the president without being deemed an unpatriotic, America-hating, terrorist "nut". oh wait, it seems that's already happened: http://www.nationalreview.com/frum/frum031903.asp[^] -c

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KaRl

Doug Goulden wrote: The first thing is that I don't have to resort to insults to try to make my point. liar ;P

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Alvaro Mendez

So is this how you fight bullshit? With more bullshit? When did I say they don't have such rights? I just questioned the apparent innocence of this whole thing. And I'm not saying I'm right, I'm just saying I'm suspicious. If a bunch of white kids somehow manage to organize a protest in favor of the Klu Klux Klan, what would you think? Regards, Alvaro

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Doug Goulden

Ouch ;P:laugh: I was juss kiddin' yah..... Hey answer my new post Frenchy;P Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

David Wulff

Alvaro Mendez wrote: If a bunch of white kids somehow manage to organize a protest in favor of the Klu Klux Klan, what would you think? A lot less than if a bunch of black kids somehow manage to organize a protest in favor of the Klu Klux Klan. :~

David Wulff

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Alvaro Mendez

Think about this David. These "communities of intellect" -- how do they happen in the first place? Do kids just organize them? You think they get tired of watching TV, playing video games, chasing girls, playing sports, etc. and decide to have political discussions which eventually lead to marches? Well, if that's the case, then great! I just hope at least some of them are able to understand the need for this war. Regards, Alvaro

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KaRl

;) Keep cool, man, have a drink :-D

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David Wulff

Alvaro Mendez wrote: Do kids just organize them? You think they get tired of watching TV, playing video games, chasing girls, playing sports, etc. and decide to have political discussions which eventually lead to marches? Yes to all of those. And I'd be very worried if that was not the case too! :eek:

David Wulff

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Chris Austin

Alvaro Mendez wrote: When did I say they don't have such rights? Maybe I took it the wrong way. But, to me you seemed to intone that so-called liberal parents shouldn't share their philosophy with their children. Alvaro Mendez wrote: If a bunch of white kids somehow manage to organize a protest in favor of the Klu Klux Klan, what would you think? I'd think that they were wrong. My opinion. And, I sincerely believe that people make their own decisions even kids....I know my world view has never been perfectly in agreement with my parents. Hey don't worry, I can handle it. I took something. I can see things no one else can see. Why are you dressed like that? - Jack Burton

Doug Goulden

Gotta a deadline, need more caffeine .....:mad::mad::mad: :laugh: Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

Chris Austin

Alvaro Mendez wrote: You think they get tired of watching TV, playing video games, chasing girls, playing sports, etc. and decide to have political discussions which eventually lead to marches? Wow Alvaro, you don't give the kids much credit. I know that when I was a kid I didn't have time to watch TV et all. I was too busy and I (still) hated sitting still for more than an hour. Also, I remember that a lot of my classmates were very aware of current events and politics behind them. Hey don't worry, I can handle it. I took something. I can see things no one else can see. Why are you dressed like that? - Jack Burton

KaRl

I sympathize :)

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Jason Henderson

I have a hard time believing these kids came up with this themselves (especially the youngest ones). We've had lots of reports of teachers here in the US "indoctrinating" kids against the war. Its not really fair to the kids, imo. Also, I don't understand why we put so much weight into what children think. I know when I was young I was pretty stupid and naive. Some would say I'm still stupid, but no longer naive.

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Jason Henderson

David Wulff wrote: they have deeply thought through their views and wishes on this topic. Perhaps that's so, but do they really know what they're talking about? IMO, probably not.

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David Wulff

Well IMHO yes they do, indeed to a far greater extent then most adults I've met - you see, these kids are able to take where the other side is coming from without getting defensive, and can answer any question with intelligence. Maybe it is a "telly and chips" thing, I don't know, but you guys seem to have a very low opinion of these peoples' ability to free and well thought out views which I find very baffling. :confused:

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Alvaro Mendez

Well, it's not that I don't give them credit. It's that I find it much more likely that one or more grown-ups (parent, teacher, counselor, etc.) are behind it all. I'm telling you from experience. Back in 1984, I had a left-wing English teacher who spent a lot of his time just criticizing the US government. He tried to make us paranoid that the government was out to get us, by monitoring our phone calls and things like that. We even read the book 1984 (by George Orwell) and he managed to twist it so that it would parallel life in the US. :omg: And of course, his message was always of peace -- peace at all costs. "If a government wants to be communist, why should the US interfere?" Unfortunately this guy managed to sway quite a few of his students. X| This is what I'm talking about. If there's one thing I've learned about left-wing nuts, is that they love to spread their message and go around trying to convince everybody. They're like political Jehovah's Witnesses. And protests? Oh they love to protest against the government. It's almost like they're waiting for some conflict to happen so they can go out and march. I'm sick of them, and I especially hate to see young impressionable minds being influenced by their crap. Like I said, I really hope that's not the case here. Regards, Alvaro

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Jason Henderson

You can have deeply thought out views, but you can still be wrong. Heck, I might be wrong in the way I think, but at least I've got some experience in living for 30 years. Thats something these kids don't have and that's why I don't put much credence into their "well thought out" views. Maybe I come from the old school of thinking, but I believe children learn from adults, not vise versa.

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David Wulff

Deeply troubling. That's all I can think of in response to that - I am speechless!

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Jason Henderson

:rolleyes:

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Lost User

Wether you agree or disagree with their opinion, its great to see that they have one ! Elaine :rose: The tigress is here :-D