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  • D Doug Goulden

    Gotta a deadline, need more caffeine .....:mad::mad::mad: :laugh: Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

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    KaRl
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    I sympathize :)


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    • A Alvaro Mendez

      That's the thing. These are kids. If I'm some left-wing nut parent, I can just endoctrinate my kid with the "war is bad because people die and the US are emperialists" message. Once he's as passionate about it as I am, he'll easily start drilling the message to his school friends, and before you know it, you have all these kids looking for bigger and better ways to parrot their message. It's kind of scary. I hope I'm wrong, but I can't help but feel suspicious that a few parents are well aware of what's going on. :suss: Regards, Alvaro


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      I have a hard time believing these kids came up with this themselves (especially the youngest ones). We've had lots of reports of teachers here in the US "indoctrinating" kids against the war. Its not really fair to the kids, imo. Also, I don't understand why we put so much weight into what children think. I know when I was young I was pretty stupid and naive. Some would say I'm still stupid, but no longer naive.

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      • D David Wulff

        I agree with Fazlul - these kids are not mindless regurgitators, they have deeply thought through their views and wishes on this topic. Enough so that it seems they were able to, at least locally, hijack a walkout intended for university students without the knowledge of the authorities, and did so on a large scale. Credit where credit is due...


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        David Wulff wrote: they have deeply thought through their views and wishes on this topic. Perhaps that's so, but do they really know what they're talking about? IMO, probably not.

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        • J Jason Henderson

          David Wulff wrote: they have deeply thought through their views and wishes on this topic. Perhaps that's so, but do they really know what they're talking about? IMO, probably not.

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          David Wulff
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          Well IMHO yes they do, indeed to a far greater extent then most adults I've met - you see, these kids are able to take where the other side is coming from without getting defensive, and can answer any question with intelligence. Maybe it is a "telly and chips" thing, I don't know, but you guys seem to have a very low opinion of these peoples' ability to free and well thought out views which I find very baffling. :confused:


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            Alvaro Mendez wrote: You think they get tired of watching TV, playing video games, chasing girls, playing sports, etc. and decide to have political discussions which eventually lead to marches? Wow Alvaro, you don't give the kids much credit. I know that when I was a kid I didn't have time to watch TV et all. I was too busy and I (still) hated sitting still for more than an hour. Also, I remember that a lot of my classmates were very aware of current events and politics behind them. Hey don't worry, I can handle it. I took something. I can see things no one else can see. Why are you dressed like that? - Jack Burton

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            Well, it's not that I don't give them credit. It's that I find it much more likely that one or more grown-ups (parent, teacher, counselor, etc.) are behind it all. I'm telling you from experience. Back in 1984, I had a left-wing English teacher who spent a lot of his time just criticizing the US government. He tried to make us paranoid that the government was out to get us, by monitoring our phone calls and things like that. We even read the book 1984 (by George Orwell) and he managed to twist it so that it would parallel life in the US. :omg: And of course, his message was always of peace -- peace at all costs. "If a government wants to be communist, why should the US interfere?" Unfortunately this guy managed to sway quite a few of his students. X| This is what I'm talking about. If there's one thing I've learned about left-wing nuts, is that they love to spread their message and go around trying to convince everybody. They're like political Jehovah's Witnesses. And protests? Oh they love to protest against the government. It's almost like they're waiting for some conflict to happen so they can go out and march. I'm sick of them, and I especially hate to see young impressionable minds being influenced by their crap. Like I said, I really hope that's not the case here. Regards, Alvaro


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            • D David Wulff

              Well IMHO yes they do, indeed to a far greater extent then most adults I've met - you see, these kids are able to take where the other side is coming from without getting defensive, and can answer any question with intelligence. Maybe it is a "telly and chips" thing, I don't know, but you guys seem to have a very low opinion of these peoples' ability to free and well thought out views which I find very baffling. :confused:


              David Wulff

              "Somebody get this freakin' duck away from me!" - Strong Bad [^]

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              You can have deeply thought out views, but you can still be wrong. Heck, I might be wrong in the way I think, but at least I've got some experience in living for 30 years. Thats something these kids don't have and that's why I don't put much credence into their "well thought out" views. Maybe I come from the old school of thinking, but I believe children learn from adults, not vise versa.

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              • J Jason Henderson

                You can have deeply thought out views, but you can still be wrong. Heck, I might be wrong in the way I think, but at least I've got some experience in living for 30 years. Thats something these kids don't have and that's why I don't put much credence into their "well thought out" views. Maybe I come from the old school of thinking, but I believe children learn from adults, not vise versa.

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                Deeply troubling. That's all I can think of in response to that - I am speechless!


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                • D David Wulff

                  Deeply troubling. That's all I can think of in response to that - I am speechless!


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                  Jason Henderson
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                  :rolleyes:

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                  • D David Wulff

                    Today thousands and thousands of school and college children in Devon alone (all over thirteen) took to the streets to protest against the premptive war in Iraq. What made this especailly good was: a) the kids were not merely joining in for the hell of it, they had and where discussing real views b) most of the parents had no idea c) the schools had no idea it was going to happen d) the kids managed to pull it off More power to them for actually taking an active interest in world affairs; most people seem to be content with arm chair name-calling - it seems there may be hope for a better future yet. It also prooves one thing I have known for a while now - never underestimate the power of mobile phones in the classroom! :-D


                    David Wulff

                    "Somebody get this freakin' duck away from me!" - Strong Bad [^]

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                    Wether you agree or disagree with their opinion, its great to see that they have one ! Elaine :rose: The tigress is here :-D

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                    • L Lost User

                      Wether you agree or disagree with their opinion, its great to see that they have one ! Elaine :rose: The tigress is here :-D

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                      I can't figure out whether I agree or disagree with that statement. I guess I would cringe a little bit if they held vehement, but wrong opinions. To avoid the question of the Iraq war, I'm thinking of things like "the earth is flat, a round earth is a conspiracy", or "everyone should convert to scientology". I would be appauled if they vehemently held those opinions. ------------------------------------------ "What happened in that Rhode Island club is shocking. To think that over a hundred people would attend a Great White concert." - The Onion

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                      • D David Wulff

                        Today thousands and thousands of school and college children in Devon alone (all over thirteen) took to the streets to protest against the premptive war in Iraq. What made this especailly good was: a) the kids were not merely joining in for the hell of it, they had and where discussing real views b) most of the parents had no idea c) the schools had no idea it was going to happen d) the kids managed to pull it off More power to them for actually taking an active interest in world affairs; most people seem to be content with arm chair name-calling - it seems there may be hope for a better future yet. It also prooves one thing I have known for a while now - never underestimate the power of mobile phones in the classroom! :-D


                        David Wulff

                        "Somebody get this freakin' duck away from me!" - Strong Bad [^]

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                        Do you have a link? I'm confused because Fazlul's link talks about UNIVERSITY students. Further, there weren't that many of them: More than 100 students gathered at University College London since 8am to begin its protest. We organised a walkout at 12pm, about 300 people came to that. We demonstrated outside the university library This afternoon, 400 people staged a street sit-in, blocking traffic on one of the main routes into Cambridge. A few hundred here and there. Maybe this isn't the same thing that you're talking about. :confused: ------------------------------------------ "What happened in that Rhode Island club is shocking. To think that over a hundred people would attend a Great White concert." - The Onion

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                        • D David Wulff

                          Today thousands and thousands of school and college children in Devon alone (all over thirteen) took to the streets to protest against the premptive war in Iraq. What made this especailly good was: a) the kids were not merely joining in for the hell of it, they had and where discussing real views b) most of the parents had no idea c) the schools had no idea it was going to happen d) the kids managed to pull it off More power to them for actually taking an active interest in world affairs; most people seem to be content with arm chair name-calling - it seems there may be hope for a better future yet. It also prooves one thing I have known for a while now - never underestimate the power of mobile phones in the classroom! :-D


                          David Wulff

                          "Somebody get this freakin' duck away from me!" - Strong Bad [^]

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                          maybe Saddam's MWDs are actually working. Regardz Colin J Davies

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                            Do you have a link? I'm confused because Fazlul's link talks about UNIVERSITY students. Further, there weren't that many of them: More than 100 students gathered at University College London since 8am to begin its protest. We organised a walkout at 12pm, about 300 people came to that. We demonstrated outside the university library This afternoon, 400 people staged a street sit-in, blocking traffic on one of the main routes into Cambridge. A few hundred here and there. Maybe this isn't the same thing that you're talking about. :confused: ------------------------------------------ "What happened in that Rhode Island club is shocking. To think that over a hundred people would attend a Great White concert." - The Onion

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                            Not that I can find, sorry, but as I said this may well have been a local thing and not [inter]national. This part of the world rarely makes the major news. :( These were not university students - I saw them through the car window, they were secondary school children.


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