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    Paul Watson
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    Just quickly: Are the reports of less than jubilant Iraqis in the wake of the coalition forces been reported in the UK and the States at all? Heard a few radio broadcasts saying how coalition forces are now realising just how much the Iraqi people hate the west. The old "Rather the devil you know" syndrome.

    Paul Watson
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    Macbeth muttered: I am in blood / Stepped in so far, that should I wade no more, / Returning were as tedious as go o'er DavidW wrote: You are totally mad. Nice.

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      Just quickly: Are the reports of less than jubilant Iraqis in the wake of the coalition forces been reported in the UK and the States at all? Heard a few radio broadcasts saying how coalition forces are now realising just how much the Iraqi people hate the west. The old "Rather the devil you know" syndrome.

      Paul Watson
      Bluegrass
      Cape Town, South Africa

      Macbeth muttered: I am in blood / Stepped in so far, that should I wade no more, / Returning were as tedious as go o'er DavidW wrote: You are totally mad. Nice.

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      Remember Gulf War I: They jubilantly receive coalition forces, only to be left alone to the hands of a murderous regime. Who is going to assure them that the same thing is not going to happen again? They suspect, of course.

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        Just quickly: Are the reports of less than jubilant Iraqis in the wake of the coalition forces been reported in the UK and the States at all? Heard a few radio broadcasts saying how coalition forces are now realising just how much the Iraqi people hate the west. The old "Rather the devil you know" syndrome.

        Paul Watson
        Bluegrass
        Cape Town, South Africa

        Macbeth muttered: I am in blood / Stepped in so far, that should I wade no more, / Returning were as tedious as go o'er DavidW wrote: You are totally mad. Nice.

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        Yeah. Heard an interesting report on Fox news about that Apache helicopter that was downed. Reporter asks Pentagon official what they had done about the helicopter that was left behind. The Pentagon official said that they destroyed it with a large bomb. The reporter asked what about all of the people that the Iraqi's showed dancing on the helicopter. The official said they weren't dancing anymore. Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

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          Yeah. Heard an interesting report on Fox news about that Apache helicopter that was downed. Reporter asks Pentagon official what they had done about the helicopter that was left behind. The Pentagon official said that they destroyed it with a large bomb. The reporter asked what about all of the people that the Iraqi's showed dancing on the helicopter. The official said they weren't dancing anymore. Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

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          Charming

          Paul Watson
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            Just quickly: Are the reports of less than jubilant Iraqis in the wake of the coalition forces been reported in the UK and the States at all? Heard a few radio broadcasts saying how coalition forces are now realising just how much the Iraqi people hate the west. The old "Rather the devil you know" syndrome.

            Paul Watson
            Bluegrass
            Cape Town, South Africa

            Macbeth muttered: I am in blood / Stepped in so far, that should I wade no more, / Returning were as tedious as go o'er DavidW wrote: You are totally mad. Nice.

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            Stan Shannon
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            Yes, that is being well covered here. The take is that even those Iraqis who want Hussien removed, don't trust us to get the job done and are not going to do much dancing in the streets until they are sure it is safe after what happened in '91. "My job is to protect America" George W. Bush.

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              Yeah. Heard an interesting report on Fox news about that Apache helicopter that was downed. Reporter asks Pentagon official what they had done about the helicopter that was left behind. The Pentagon official said that they destroyed it with a large bomb. The reporter asked what about all of the people that the Iraqi's showed dancing on the helicopter. The official said they weren't dancing anymore. Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

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              Doug Goulden wrote: The official said they weren't dancing anymore. I wonder if the dancers were related to that stupid bitch that let a bulldozer run over her sorry ass. LOLOL ------- signature starts "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio. ------- signature ends

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                Yes, that is being well covered here. The take is that even those Iraqis who want Hussien removed, don't trust us to get the job done and are not going to do much dancing in the streets until they are sure it is safe after what happened in '91. "My job is to protect America" George W. Bush.

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                From what I've read, they left Saddam alone because if they would have taken him out, his eldest son would have taken over, and he's an even more murderous freakshow than his inbred father. ------- signature starts "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio. ------- signature ends

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                  Just quickly: Are the reports of less than jubilant Iraqis in the wake of the coalition forces been reported in the UK and the States at all? Heard a few radio broadcasts saying how coalition forces are now realising just how much the Iraqi people hate the west. The old "Rather the devil you know" syndrome.

                  Paul Watson
                  Bluegrass
                  Cape Town, South Africa

                  Macbeth muttered: I am in blood / Stepped in so far, that should I wade no more, / Returning were as tedious as go o'er DavidW wrote: You are totally mad. Nice.

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                  We have heard, but they also tell us the Iraqi civilians have guns at their backs. We've been told that the Iraqi civilians have told our people over there that they could not support us so long as republican guard troops are living in their houses.

                  Jason Henderson
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                    From what I've read, they left Saddam alone because if they would have taken him out, his eldest son would have taken over, and he's an even more murderous freakshow than his inbred father. ------- signature starts "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio. ------- signature ends

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                    Actually, I'm of the opinion that we did take him and his son out on the first day. Until I see a convincing video to indicate otherwise, I'm going to believe that. Who ever is in charge is just trying to use Saddam's reputation for his own advantage. "My job is to protect America" George W. Bush.

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                      Yeah. Heard an interesting report on Fox news about that Apache helicopter that was downed. Reporter asks Pentagon official what they had done about the helicopter that was left behind. The Pentagon official said that they destroyed it with a large bomb. The reporter asked what about all of the people that the Iraqi's showed dancing on the helicopter. The official said they weren't dancing anymore. Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

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                      I don't think they blew it up until long after those people were gone. "My job is to protect America" George W. Bush.

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                        Charming

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                        Jason Henderson
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                        War sucks doesn't it.

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                          We have heard, but they also tell us the Iraqi civilians have guns at their backs. We've been told that the Iraqi civilians have told our people over there that they could not support us so long as republican guard troops are living in their houses.

                          Jason Henderson
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                          Yeah, I think the truth is a mixture of that and distrust of the west. Thanks for the reply.

                          Paul Watson
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                            Remember Gulf War I: They jubilantly receive coalition forces, only to be left alone to the hands of a murderous regime. Who is going to assure them that the same thing is not going to happen again? They suspect, of course.

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                            Paul Watson
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                            Good point. Though as Henderson mentioned it is also probably a big dollop of "Be nice to the yanks and you get shot in the back" too.

                            Paul Watson
                            Bluegrass
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                            Macbeth muttered: I am in blood / Stepped in so far, that should I wade no more, / Returning were as tedious as go o'er DavidW wrote: You are totally mad. Nice.

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                              I don't think they blew it up until long after those people were gone. "My job is to protect America" George W. Bush.

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                              Probably , I got the impression that it fell under stupid reporter questions. Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

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                                Yes, that is being well covered here. The take is that even those Iraqis who want Hussien removed, don't trust us to get the job done and are not going to do much dancing in the streets until they are sure it is safe after what happened in '91. "My job is to protect America" George W. Bush.

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                                Paul Watson
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                                Thanks Stan, good to know you guys hear what we hear

                                Paul Watson
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                                  War sucks doesn't it.

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                                  Yes it does and it is not helped by blaise statements like that from people who should know better.

                                  Paul Watson
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                                  Cape Town, South Africa

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                                    Actually, I'm of the opinion that we did take him and his son out on the first day. Until I see a convincing video to indicate otherwise, I'm going to believe that. Who ever is in charge is just trying to use Saddam's reputation for his own advantage. "My job is to protect America" George W. Bush.

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                                    I agree. I think we've already killed the bastard. Taraq Azis is probably running the show.


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                                      Yes it does and it is not helped by blaise statements like that from people who should know better.

                                      Paul Watson
                                      Bluegrass
                                      Cape Town, South Africa

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                                      Its called reality, and its not blaise. War is hell. If they want to stand around a chopper, then they must realize that they might die. If bus loads of Syrians want to come help Saddam Hussein, then they must realize the bridge they are crossing may be taken out. If reporters want to get a great story from the front lines, they must realize they might get caught in the crossfire.

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                                        Yes it does and it is not helped by blaise statements like that from people who should know better.

                                        Paul Watson
                                        Bluegrass
                                        Cape Town, South Africa

                                        Macbeth muttered: I am in blood / Stepped in so far, that should I wade no more, / Returning were as tedious as go o'er DavidW wrote: You are totally mad. Nice.

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                                        The US has made pains to avoid civilian casualties, if the people there insist on standing there then they should understand the risks they are taking. Besides the question sounded more like a response to a stupid reporter type question. Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

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                                          Its called reality, and its not blaise. War is hell. If they want to stand around a chopper, then they must realize that they might die. If bus loads of Syrians want to come help Saddam Hussein, then they must realize the bridge they are crossing may be taken out. If reporters want to get a great story from the front lines, they must realize they might get caught in the crossfire.

                                          Jason Henderson
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                                          Reading between the lines I took "The official said they weren't dancing anymore." to mean they were all dead and from the context and tone I would say the Pentagon official was rather pleased about it. Sounded very vengeful and not in keeping with what the PR machine is saying. He should have known better than to add in that last bit, people will just pick it up and use it as a generalised statement of what Americans really think. I wasn't commenting about stupid civilians or reporters who put themselves in harms way and then get all angry because they get hurt.

                                          Paul Watson
                                          Bluegrass
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                                          Macbeth muttered: I am in blood / Stepped in so far, that should I wade no more, / Returning were as tedious as go o'er DavidW wrote: You are totally mad. Nice.

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