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Why do all Arabs hate Israel?

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  • J Jason Henderson

    Samer12 wrote: I am talking metaforicaly speaking,they tried once if you dont know back in 67 Well, I think that's part of the problem isn't it? I always heard that the '67 war was defensive for Israel. Egypt and Syria were building up and preparing to invade Israel so they launched a pre-emptive attack. Samer12 wrote: Can Palestinians vote? they cant have a home how can they vote Can Palestinians live in Israel (I'm not talking about the Gaza Strip or West Bank) and vote? Do you have to be a jew to have representation in their government?

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    DODO
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    Well, I think that's part of the problem isn't it? I always heard that the '67 war was defensive for Israel. Egypt and Syria were building up and preparing to invade Israel so they launched a pre-emptive attack. :laugh:this is totaly un true Israel was trying to invade egypt if it was self defence why did they invadid SINAI ,now you know how the media,books are totaly Israeli ,by the way I dont hate all jews ,only zionist Israelis La ILah Ila allah Mohamed Rasoul Allah

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    • F Felix Gartsman

      Jason Henderson wrote: Do they allow Palestinians to have representation in the Israeli government? Can Palestinians vote? Palestenians living in Israel proper (over 1 million) can vote (arab voting rates higher than jewish) and elected. Currently arab parties have 8 seats (of 120) due bad over-splitting, usually it's 10. Jewish (left) parties also have arab members. Goverment is more problematic. There was arab minister (druz), but today none. Arab parties don't join right-wing coalitions.

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      Palestenians living in Israel proper (over 1 million) can vote (arab voting rates higher than jewish) and elected. what arabs are you talking about those with palastinian origion or with Israeli ones are there any muslims amoung them La ILah Ila allah Mohamed Rasoul Allah

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      • D Doug Goulden

        I realize that, they're to damn stupid to realize it though. If you look Christianity, Judaism, and Islam aren't that far apart, its the nuts that decide to make the people that far apart.:confused: I don't get it, but I'm to the point that I just want my country, my countrymen, and myself to be safe. If they are going to come here to hurt us, then the people responsible will be found and removed. Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

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        Christianity, Judaism, and Islam aren't that far apart Of course they are not apart I belive in jesus the christ ,I belive in altawrah(Judaism book),I belive in Abraham,muslim men can even marry Christians and jews La ILah Ila allah Mohamed Rasoul Allah

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        • J Jason Henderson

          The Jews controlled or lived in what is now called Palestine for approximately 1400 years. From the exodus out of Egypt, until around 70 AD when the Romans tried to eliminate jewish history (also called the Diaspora). Jews still lived in the area, but in much smaller numbers, evn up until the state of Israel was established. After WWI, there was a push for a jewish homeland (since Europe no longer wanted them) and Zionists began immigrating back to the land between the Mediteranean and the Jordan river. I know my history, and it wasn't written by the jews. Samer12 wrote: they even have the nerve to say that the pyramids is thiers What? :wtf:

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          in what is now called Palestine for it is palastine La ILah Ila allah Mohamed Rasoul Allah

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          • D Doug Goulden

            Nope, I'm Christian, I just don't judge people by their race or religion just their actions. Can you same the same? You think little children in Israel should die because of something someone else does? Who's brainwashed? Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

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            You think little children in Israel should die because of something someone else does? do not say things for me,I never said I wanted children dead,I want army,buldozers,bombs ,prisons, dead La ILah Ila allah Mohamed Rasoul Allah

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            • J Jason Henderson

              Megan makes an excellent point, not all Jews, but maybe the more radical ones. Don't lump all jews into one big hate basket or you will never find peace. All you read is not true as well.

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              Don't lump all jews into one big hate basket again I dont hate jews it is not about jews La ILah Ila allah Mohamed Rasoul Allah

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              • R Richard Stringer

                Samer12 wrote: jews tried to poison prophet Mohamed (sala allah alehe wa salam)i But if he was a 'prophet' he knew in advance it was coming and dodged the bullet - so to speak. Hey - how can I crack into this 'prophet' con - sounds like a good gig to me. Richard In Italy for thirty years under the Borgias they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love; they had five hundred years of democracy and peace and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock. Orson Welles

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                But if he was a 'prophet' he knew in advance it was coming and dodged the bullet - so to speak. Hey - how can I crack into this 'prophet' con - sounds like a good gig to me. you are making fun of a religion here man ,he knew of course or he would have been killed with poison La ILah Ila allah Mohamed Rasoul Allah

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                • B Brit

                  (1) The US trusts Israel more than they trust the Arab governments. In part, this is because Israel is a democracy whereas Arab governments are largely dictatorships, monarchies, theocracies (Iran). The obvious counterexample is Egypt, which is a democracy - though, I should mention that the US gives over $1 billion per year in aid to Egypt, and has done so for roughly the past 25 years. (2) Palestine and a number of Arab governments were strongly backed by the USSR. (When the USSR collapsed in 1990, the funds which the Palestinian Authority had available to it dropped by roughly 80% because that's the proportion that was coming from the USSR.) Again, the close relationship between some Arab groups and the USSR damaged US trust of them. (3) Muslims have an ambivilent attitude towards Western culture. Some hate it, some love it. Israelis, on the other hand, are largely western-thinking, well-educated, and part of a first-world democracy. As for the Israeli nuclear arsenal, they've had it for three decades now. Only 2 of the 22 Arab league members have diplomatic relations with Israel, and they've tried to invade Israel three times. Israel has a legitimate argument for a nuclear deterent against the masses of Arabs that would like nothing better than to see them wiped off the face of the earth. Israel isn't waving their nuclear arsenal around and they really have no conquest ambitions in the region. (You might argue that they have ambitions towards conquering all of Palestine, but the Israelis don't really know what they want, and their nuclear arsenal is irrelevant in that situation, anyway. Israel certainly have no ambitions to conquer the Arab world - as some hysterical Arab commentators claim.) On the other hand, whenever someone says, "Israel can have nukes, why can't the Arabs?" It strikes me as a statement that can only be made if you pretend there is no difference between Israel and its Arab neighbors. If you really look at the situation - for example, the possibility of an expansionistic dictator who has no qualms about killing millions getting nukes - then things look a lot more obvious. But, then, strong emotion always trumps logic, and the West comes off looking like it has double-standards because people ignore the facts they want to ignore and emphasize the facts they want. ------------------------------------------ "What happened in that Rhode Island club is shocking. To think that over a hundred people would attend a Great White concert." - The Onion

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                  The US trusts Israel more than they trust the Arab governments of course it does ,they share interests ,thoughts La ILah Ila allah Mohamed Rasoul Allah

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                    Palestenians living in Israel proper (over 1 million) can vote (arab voting rates higher than jewish) and elected. what arabs are you talking about those with palastinian origion or with Israeli ones are there any muslims amoung them La ILah Ila allah Mohamed Rasoul Allah

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                    Samer12 wrote: what arabs are you talking about those with palastinian origion or with Israeli ones are there any muslims amoung them There are no arabs with israeli origins, they're all palestinians. Almost all arabs in israel are muslims. Biggest arab party in parlament is muslim, connected to the "muslim brotherhood". Some arab parties in israel: http://www.aljabha.org/q/index.asp?f=main.asp&m=menu.htm&t=top.htm[^] http://knesset.gov.il/asp/arbframe.htm[^] http://www.a-m-c.org/famc.html[^]

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                    • B Brit

                      (1) The US trusts Israel more than they trust the Arab governments. In part, this is because Israel is a democracy whereas Arab governments are largely dictatorships, monarchies, theocracies (Iran). The obvious counterexample is Egypt, which is a democracy - though, I should mention that the US gives over $1 billion per year in aid to Egypt, and has done so for roughly the past 25 years. (2) Palestine and a number of Arab governments were strongly backed by the USSR. (When the USSR collapsed in 1990, the funds which the Palestinian Authority had available to it dropped by roughly 80% because that's the proportion that was coming from the USSR.) Again, the close relationship between some Arab groups and the USSR damaged US trust of them. (3) Muslims have an ambivilent attitude towards Western culture. Some hate it, some love it. Israelis, on the other hand, are largely western-thinking, well-educated, and part of a first-world democracy. As for the Israeli nuclear arsenal, they've had it for three decades now. Only 2 of the 22 Arab league members have diplomatic relations with Israel, and they've tried to invade Israel three times. Israel has a legitimate argument for a nuclear deterent against the masses of Arabs that would like nothing better than to see them wiped off the face of the earth. Israel isn't waving their nuclear arsenal around and they really have no conquest ambitions in the region. (You might argue that they have ambitions towards conquering all of Palestine, but the Israelis don't really know what they want, and their nuclear arsenal is irrelevant in that situation, anyway. Israel certainly have no ambitions to conquer the Arab world - as some hysterical Arab commentators claim.) On the other hand, whenever someone says, "Israel can have nukes, why can't the Arabs?" It strikes me as a statement that can only be made if you pretend there is no difference between Israel and its Arab neighbors. If you really look at the situation - for example, the possibility of an expansionistic dictator who has no qualms about killing millions getting nukes - then things look a lot more obvious. But, then, strong emotion always trumps logic, and the West comes off looking like it has double-standards because people ignore the facts they want to ignore and emphasize the facts they want. ------------------------------------------ "What happened in that Rhode Island club is shocking. To think that over a hundred people would attend a Great White concert." - The Onion

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                      So, considering that there are two dozens of them, why are Jordan (an absolute monarchy) and Egypt (one of the biggest allies of USSR during the Cold War) the only Arab recipients of US aid? If the aid is distributed according to (1) being a Middle East democracy and (2) supporting US during the Cold War, then Turkey should be drowning in US economic aid by now? What I wonder is, does US classify Arab governments as being pro-democracy/anti-democracy, or rather being pro-Israel/anti-Israel. Isn't that another proof of US's Israel-centric Middle East policy? US is buying nearby Arab governments' sympathy towards Israel using its citizens' most valuable tax-dollars. If that's so, then hush money would be a better term than economic aid.

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