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Standing up to Uncle Sam

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  • R Richard Stringer

    Who the hell do you think invented it - Disney. I was probably writing software before you were riding a tricycle. I think that Mark Twain said it best: "Youth is wasted on the young" In Italy for thirty years under the Borgias they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love; they had five hundred years of democracy and peace and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock. Orson Welles

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    Andrew McCarter
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    Richard Stringer wrote: I think that Mark Twain said it best: "Youth is wasted on the young" Maybe. But "youth must have it's day" - step aside grandpa!

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      Richard Stringer wrote: in every civilization there are always those who live off the fruits of other peoples blood and labor and keep on hoping that the next generation will be smart enough to ignore them like republicans? :|

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      Richard Stringer
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      Not a party thing at all. It can cover both Republicans and Democrats as well as Independants. Its not political. If you don't contribute something to society in a concrete manner than you are a parasite - living off of the efforts of those that do contribute. Kinda like many politicans. In particular those that pander votes by promising something for nothing or creating class warfare in a classless society - if the show fits. Richard BTW: I am a registered Independant - not a Rebulican or Democrat. But I do vote - not complain. In Italy for thirty years under the Borgias they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love; they had five hundred years of democracy and peace and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock. Orson Welles

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      • R Richard Stringer

        Andrew McCarter wrote: I pay as much in tax over here as I pretty much did in the UK Don't know where you are living but I think if you add the VAT and all the other little taxes ( like driving in London ) up you would be suprised. Andrew McCarter wrote: except there I got a better education for free and health care for free too. I would doubt that - the FREE part I mean, And while I may be unique I would place my education , while not a a so called elite school , up with anything else -anywhere. Both my primary and secondary education was in religious schools so I would think in most ways they were superior to many who attended puplic schools. Andrew McCarter wrote: You've never been to the UK Actually I have spent about a year and 3 months in the UK. 9 Months long ago as a military dependant while my father did some time there before we moved to Germany for three years. This was in 1951 and then six months working on a software project in 1988 with Lloyds. I got there in November and left in April so I assume that the weather got better after I left. Andrew McCarter wrote: almost as silly as having 40 million people without health insurance So who should pay for their insurance ? ME - no thank you. I pay 800.00+ a month for myself and my wife. Nobody is helping me. Andrew McCarter wrote: But at least the petrol is cheap CHEAP!! The damn stuff is up to almost 1.60 a gallon here. Richard In Italy for thirty years under the Borgias they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love; they had five hundred years of democracy and peace and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock. Orson Welles

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        Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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        Richard Stringer wrote: Both my primary and secondary education was in religious schools so I would think in most ways they were superior to many who attended puplic schools. Don't assume that Religion in Education necessarily means better. It doesn't. I attended a public (as you call it) comprehensive school in an ex-mining town in North East England. Our pass rate was way higher than the nearby Catholic school (who pupils, I should add, enjoyed trying to beat up anyone who went elseware. I never saw the same hostility within my school). I came out with 9 O Levels (7 of them A's) and 4 A levels (2 of them A's). By all accounts those sorts of grades weren't unusual there. Anna :rose: Homepage | My life in tears

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        • A Andrew McCarter

          Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: Maybe what he needs is a damn good curry to mellow him out a bit. Scampi Vindaloo sounds about right... Now that's not fair. Chicago may have a decent Indo-Pakistan community, but I'm afraid that you just cannot get a decent curry here. I would hack my left leg off for a decent Balti (I never thought I'd miss Stoke-On-Trent for anything except Bass Ale). Curry and Rugby ... the two biggest loses in my life when I moved :(( I've become quite adept at cooking curry over the years, but it always seems to be too much like "work". Besides, curry isn't a food ... it's a cultural thing and you have to go out to get it!

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          Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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          Now that's a shame. :( I was in Windsor on Saturday night being my usual mischievous self and we ended up in a fantastic Indian restaurant on the High Street - very high class, with a unique menu and great service. :cool: I'm sure they twigged who they were (6 TS girls out together does tend to attract some attention!) but certainly didn't show it - very professional. :) FYI Chicago is the only US city I've visited (a few years back, while discussing a joint project with Northrop at Rolling Meadows). Small world. :rolleyes: Anna :rose: Homepage | My life in tears

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          • L Lost User

            So... "We approve of what you're doing, but we won't lift a finger to help." changes to "We don't approve of what you're doing and plan on whining about it." OK, I can deal with that. Mike Mullikin :beer:

            "I'm not calling you a liar but....I can't think of a way to finish that sentence." - Bart Simpson

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            Actually it is like this: 1. We agreed on a change in the Iraqi leadership. 2. We certainly did not agree on the means. 3. US said "And f... you all!" and attacked. 4. Now you are there, there is nothing we could do to stop you short of launching an attack, and as my country is with your guys in Iraq, that would be a bit embarrasing. So, as the situation is per se, we can just as well get the best of it. But that does not mean that we suddenly approve your actions, and if you get any troubles from it, you will not get MY personal sympathy. "After all it's just text at the end of the day. - Colin Davies "For example, when a VB programmer comes to my house, they may say 'does your pool need cleaning, sir ?' " - Christian Graus

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              Actually it is like this: 1. We agreed on a change in the Iraqi leadership. 2. We certainly did not agree on the means. 3. US said "And f... you all!" and attacked. 4. Now you are there, there is nothing we could do to stop you short of launching an attack, and as my country is with your guys in Iraq, that would be a bit embarrasing. So, as the situation is per se, we can just as well get the best of it. But that does not mean that we suddenly approve your actions, and if you get any troubles from it, you will not get MY personal sympathy. "After all it's just text at the end of the day. - Colin Davies "For example, when a VB programmer comes to my house, they may say 'does your pool need cleaning, sir ?' " - Christian Graus

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              jan larsen wrote: 1. We agreed on a change in the Iraqi leadership. But after 12 years had failed. In the mean time millions of Iraqi children have perished and thousands of Saddams Iraqi foes have been tortured and killed. jan larsen wrote: 2. We certainly did not agree on the means. Will someone please provide one well developed idea of how Saddam would have left Iraq short of war? jan larsen wrote: 3. US said "And f... you all!" and attacked. Sometimes there is a time for action and regardless of how silent others may be - it is time to act. jan larsen wrote: ...you will not get MY personal sympathy. I don't remember anybody asking for it. :confused: Mike Mullikin :beer:

              "I'm not calling you a liar but....I can't think of a way to finish that sentence." - Bart Simpson

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              • N Nitron

                Chris Austin wrote: Seems a bit binary in thought. :omg: You mean there's more to life than 1's and 0's? I mean sure; you can talk HEX all you want, but it's all binary in the end. ;P - Nitron


                "Those that say a task is impossible shouldn't interrupt the ones who are doing it." - Chinese Proverb

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                don't forget 0 vs 0. That's how real programmers do it. :) Hey don't worry, I can handle it. I took something. I can see things no one else can see. Why are you dressed like that? - Jack Burton

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                • C Chris Losinger

                  i complain because i want it to be better, not because i think it's hopelessly terrible. i do like the US, and i do appreciate that part of a democracy is not always getting your way. but, another part of this particular democracy is being able to complain about the bad parts. maybe i should spend more time cheering for the good parts, but that's not my nature. :) -c


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                  Ya know, if CPians were in a competition to get the most lowest rated posts, I'd be a winner for sure. Guess I have to say something bad about the US to get a high rating here. Anyway, I can see your point. It just I got the impression (over time, not from one post in particular) that you didn't like the country. And as people, I know we can complain at times. I complain too, but up until recently it was never targeted at politics. Jeremy Falcon "so be it, threaten no more, to secure peace is to prepare for war" - Metallica

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                  • C Chris Austin

                    Jeremy Falcon wrote: Chris, I have to ask, if you are so unhappy with the US then why do you stay here? Seems a bit binary in thought. I dont think it is that he is miserable or he dislikes it here. Hell, if he didn't like it here he would up and moved. It is much harder to try to fix something and face reality than to just let it rot and fester while hoping it fixes itself. IMHO to not complain when you think something is wrong is extreamly un-american. Hey don't worry, I can handle it. I took something. I can see things no one else can see. Why are you dressed like that? - Jack Burton

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                    Chris Austin wrote: I dont think it is that he is miserable Don't take everything at face value. I was speaking figuratively, as in the true translation was not in the actual words. I don't think Chris was going to jump off a building. I meant miserable as in disliking his state of mind in regards to the current topic (the US) and being unhappy with it. Chris Austin wrote: he dislikes it here Yeah, and he told me that. That's why I asked him instead of assumed. Chris Austin wrote: IMHO to not complain when you think something is wrong is extreamly un-american. I see your point. Jeremy Falcon "so be it, threaten no more, to secure peace is to prepare for war" - Metallica

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                    • B Brit

                      For a minute there, I thought the article was going to say, "Gee, maybe the US isn't a bully afterall." No such luck. Instead, it took the interpretation that "the US needs us". Oh well. I guess its too much to expect anything but the most cynical interpretation of US intentions. Sign of the times, I guess. ------------------------------------------ "What happened in that Rhode Island club is shocking. To think that over a hundred people would attend a Great White concert." - The Onion

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                      Here here. Jeremy Falcon "so be it, threaten no more, to secure peace is to prepare for war" - Metallica

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