Why does the world think that Saddam and his ministers are truthful people
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Why is it that when there is an anouncement by the Iraqis Al Jezeera television or some other Arab based newspaper has headlines screaming about "Over 50 killed in Allied Bomb attack". Yet the same people won't report on attacks on Iraqi civilians being gunned down by Iraqi Fedayeen Sadaam. What gives? Does the Arab press report on these things at all? The impression I get is that they don't. I looked on Reuters website even and they had a small one sentence blurb about the Fedayeen Sadaam and pictures with a long spiel about the bomb at the market. What a bunch of sh*t. We don't even know for sure that the bomb in the market was a US bomb, but 99% of the Arab world has all of a sudden fallen in love with Saddam. Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?
I don't know what you expected to happen? But, US is hated in that region for reasons best known to them (most likely one being support to Israel). I have seen FOX news reports last two days, which lambasts other US media (Washington Post in particular)for questioning the progress of the war; and guess what, it is the most watched cable news channel. Americans get what they want to hear on FOX. Al Jazeera is a cable channel in the MiddleEast, that wants to increase its viewership by selectively broadcasting news that would find favour among the target viewers. Media is too opportunistic and economy-driven, that news is edited to suit the tastes of the target audience. A very sad thing, but a definite side-effect of unchecked capitalism - professional ethics no longer exist. IMO, US is in a war. Deliberate or not, many people will die. There is no justification required; and definitely I would recommend that you not compare what US does with what Saddam does. My article on a reference-counted smart pointer that supports polymorphic objects and raw pointers
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Why is it that when there is an anouncement by the Iraqis Al Jezeera television or some other Arab based newspaper has headlines screaming about "Over 50 killed in Allied Bomb attack". Yet the same people won't report on attacks on Iraqi civilians being gunned down by Iraqi Fedayeen Sadaam. What gives? Does the Arab press report on these things at all? The impression I get is that they don't. I looked on Reuters website even and they had a small one sentence blurb about the Fedayeen Sadaam and pictures with a long spiel about the bomb at the market. What a bunch of sh*t. We don't even know for sure that the bomb in the market was a US bomb, but 99% of the Arab world has all of a sudden fallen in love with Saddam. Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?
Doug Goulden wrote: Why is it they might dislike Saddam, but they dislike the US, too. "They want Saddam Hussein to go and they expect him to go eventually, but they want him to hold on a little longer because they want to teach the Americans a lesson," said Khaled M. Batarfi, the managing editor of the newspaper Al Madina, describing the scene in a sprawling living room in Jidda, Saudi Arabia. "Arab pride is at stake here," he added, describing a sentiment sweeping the region from Algeria to Yemen. "American propaganda said it was going to be so quick and easy, meaning we Arabs are weak and unable to fight. Now it is like a Mike Tyson fight against some weak guy. They don't want the weak guy knocked out in the first 40 seconds." http://www.nytimes.com/2003/03/26/international/worldspecial/26ARAB.html?pagewanted=all&position=top[^] -c
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Why is it that when there is an anouncement by the Iraqis Al Jezeera television or some other Arab based newspaper has headlines screaming about "Over 50 killed in Allied Bomb attack". Yet the same people won't report on attacks on Iraqi civilians being gunned down by Iraqi Fedayeen Sadaam. What gives? Does the Arab press report on these things at all? The impression I get is that they don't. I looked on Reuters website even and they had a small one sentence blurb about the Fedayeen Sadaam and pictures with a long spiel about the bomb at the market. What a bunch of sh*t. We don't even know for sure that the bomb in the market was a US bomb, but 99% of the Arab world has all of a sudden fallen in love with Saddam. Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?
My personal opinion is the Arab world has not fallen in love with Saddam but see the west and mostly the US as a threat to their culture and way of life. Saddam may be bad but he is still theirs. I hear of their sects and/or tribes and am sure I do not fully appreciate how important those groups are to the area politics. If we come in and force our education (which is required for our ideals of democracy) on them we destroy the political fabric that keeps the tribal leaders in place so they are quite happy with the US (and west) being portrayed as the evil ones. ""
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I don't know what you expected to happen? But, US is hated in that region for reasons best known to them (most likely one being support to Israel). I have seen FOX news reports last two days, which lambasts other US media (Washington Post in particular)for questioning the progress of the war; and guess what, it is the most watched cable news channel. Americans get what they want to hear on FOX. Al Jazeera is a cable channel in the MiddleEast, that wants to increase its viewership by selectively broadcasting news that would find favour among the target viewers. Media is too opportunistic and economy-driven, that news is edited to suit the tastes of the target audience. A very sad thing, but a definite side-effect of unchecked capitalism - professional ethics no longer exist. IMO, US is in a war. Deliberate or not, many people will die. There is no justification required; and definitely I would recommend that you not compare what US does with what Saddam does. My article on a reference-counted smart pointer that supports polymorphic objects and raw pointers
Thomas George wrote: I have seen FOX news reports last two days, which lambasts other US media (Washington Post in particular)for questioning the progress of the war; and guess what, it is the most watched cable news channel. Americans get what they want to hear on FOX That is pretty well how I see the FOX channel. Lots of repetition of the same details usually spun in a pro US direction. Unfortunately, most of the rest of the reporting seems to be spun in the other direction. I work at home and have a TV on most of the time listening, and I've noticed that CNN has had a bit less slant than FOX seeming to be a little heavier on details and a little lighter on spin. Thomas George wrote: There is no justification required; and definitely I would recommend that you not compare what US does with what Saddam does Not trying to justify the actions of the US, just tired of hearing about how awful the US is. To bad there really isn't any unbiased source. Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?
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Doug Goulden wrote: Why is it they might dislike Saddam, but they dislike the US, too. "They want Saddam Hussein to go and they expect him to go eventually, but they want him to hold on a little longer because they want to teach the Americans a lesson," said Khaled M. Batarfi, the managing editor of the newspaper Al Madina, describing the scene in a sprawling living room in Jidda, Saudi Arabia. "Arab pride is at stake here," he added, describing a sentiment sweeping the region from Algeria to Yemen. "American propaganda said it was going to be so quick and easy, meaning we Arabs are weak and unable to fight. Now it is like a Mike Tyson fight against some weak guy. They don't want the weak guy knocked out in the first 40 seconds." http://www.nytimes.com/2003/03/26/international/worldspecial/26ARAB.html?pagewanted=all&position=top[^] -c
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Chris Losinger wrote: they might dislike Saddam, but they dislike the US, too He's an SOB but he's our SOB ....:rolleyes: Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?
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Thomas George wrote: I have seen FOX news reports last two days, which lambasts other US media (Washington Post in particular)for questioning the progress of the war; and guess what, it is the most watched cable news channel. Americans get what they want to hear on FOX That is pretty well how I see the FOX channel. Lots of repetition of the same details usually spun in a pro US direction. Unfortunately, most of the rest of the reporting seems to be spun in the other direction. I work at home and have a TV on most of the time listening, and I've noticed that CNN has had a bit less slant than FOX seeming to be a little heavier on details and a little lighter on spin. Thomas George wrote: There is no justification required; and definitely I would recommend that you not compare what US does with what Saddam does Not trying to justify the actions of the US, just tired of hearing about how awful the US is. To bad there really isn't any unbiased source. Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?
Doug Goulden wrote: Not trying to justify the actions of the US, just tired of hearing about how awful the US is. To bad there really isn't any unbiased source I guess you have to get used to it. It is what you get when a war is waged against international opinion (however justified it might be). Even after the war, USA bashing will still endure. My article on a reference-counted smart pointer that supports polymorphic objects and raw pointers
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Why is it that when there is an anouncement by the Iraqis Al Jezeera television or some other Arab based newspaper has headlines screaming about "Over 50 killed in Allied Bomb attack". Yet the same people won't report on attacks on Iraqi civilians being gunned down by Iraqi Fedayeen Sadaam. What gives? Does the Arab press report on these things at all? The impression I get is that they don't. I looked on Reuters website even and they had a small one sentence blurb about the Fedayeen Sadaam and pictures with a long spiel about the bomb at the market. What a bunch of sh*t. We don't even know for sure that the bomb in the market was a US bomb, but 99% of the Arab world has all of a sudden fallen in love with Saddam. Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?
I can give examples of bias in the western media too :( Answers for a truly unbiased media ? Wish I had them. The tigress is here :-D
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I can give examples of bias in the western media too :( Answers for a truly unbiased media ? Wish I had them. The tigress is here :-D
Trollslayer wrote: I can give examples of bias in the western media too Undoubtedly, its hard to know what to believe. I've watched CNN, FOX, NBC. I've looked at Reuters website, MSNBC, and the BBC also. Bottom line is that usually you can tell within about 15 seconds which way they lean. Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?
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Why is it that when there is an anouncement by the Iraqis Al Jezeera television or some other Arab based newspaper has headlines screaming about "Over 50 killed in Allied Bomb attack". Yet the same people won't report on attacks on Iraqi civilians being gunned down by Iraqi Fedayeen Sadaam. What gives? Does the Arab press report on these things at all? The impression I get is that they don't. I looked on Reuters website even and they had a small one sentence blurb about the Fedayeen Sadaam and pictures with a long spiel about the bomb at the market. What a bunch of sh*t. We don't even know for sure that the bomb in the market was a US bomb, but 99% of the Arab world has all of a sudden fallen in love with Saddam. Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?
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Thomas George wrote: I have seen FOX news reports last two days, which lambasts other US media (Washington Post in particular)for questioning the progress of the war; and guess what, it is the most watched cable news channel. Americans get what they want to hear on FOX That is pretty well how I see the FOX channel. Lots of repetition of the same details usually spun in a pro US direction. Unfortunately, most of the rest of the reporting seems to be spun in the other direction. I work at home and have a TV on most of the time listening, and I've noticed that CNN has had a bit less slant than FOX seeming to be a little heavier on details and a little lighter on spin. Thomas George wrote: There is no justification required; and definitely I would recommend that you not compare what US does with what Saddam does Not trying to justify the actions of the US, just tired of hearing about how awful the US is. To bad there really isn't any unbiased source. Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?
Doug Goulden wrote: Not trying to justify the actions of the US, just tired of hearing about how awful the US is. To bad there really isn't any unbiased source. I've found that the BBC World News coverage seems to be the most honest reporting I have seen. They seem to have a reasonable number of interviews with individuals whose opinions cover all sides of this conflict. Sky News also seems to be unbiased. Followed at a distance by CNN. Fox News, as has been mentioned seems, to be the most biased, even to the point of cutting off interviewees and misrepresenting their views as they happen. They seem to yell a lot. Cheers The universe is driven by the complex interaction between three ingredients: matter, energy, and enlightened self-interest.