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  • P peterchen

    No, they (probably) didn't. But they were fingerpointing on how evil the Iraq is breaking something they didn't seem worthy of being ratified. I wonder if this is a "finer point" already, how long it will take until we are at wild wild west politics again. Just because Saddam violated the cease fire conditions doesn't mean you can do *anything* to him.


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    peterchen wrote: Just because Saddam violated the cease fire conditions doesn't mean you can do *anything* to him. We aren't doing just anything to Saddam we are continuing the hostilities. The Iraqi regime itself is the group that is perpetrating attrocities on the Iraqi people. Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

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    • P peterchen

      DisgustedByStander wrote: Pretending to surrender and then ambush your enemy is not considered civilized behavior during a war. This actually is a violation of a 1977 amendment to the Geneva convention - one which the US denied to ratify. DisgustedByStander wrote: The barbaric act of showing POW on TV will not be tolerated. Again, violation of the Geneva convention. I wondeer if Mr. Rumsfeld will sue CNN for doing the same.


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      Jason Henderson
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      peterchen wrote: This actually is a violation of a 1977 amendment to the Geneva convention - one which the US denied to ratify. Guess who was president in 1977? The beloved Jimmy Carter.

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      • P peterchen

        No, they (probably) didn't. But they were fingerpointing on how evil the Iraq is breaking something they didn't seem worthy of being ratified. I wonder if this is a "finer point" already, how long it will take until we are at wild wild west politics again. Just because Saddam violated the cease fire conditions doesn't mean you can do *anything* to him.


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        peterchen wrote: Just because Saddam violated the cease fire conditions doesn't mean you can do *anything* to him. If you violate a cease-fire agreement, then it is nullified and there was technically no end to the Gulf War hostilities.

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        • C Christian Graus

          How smart you are. Your intelligence goes so far that you can say 'I know you are, but what am I'. If you're 6, it's original, if you're older, it's pathetic, almost as brain dead as your original post. I notice you're also such a big man that you post anonymously. What a worthless pussy you are, just like everyone else who likes to make ridiculous claims about the west, but has no ability to back them with facts or logic. Now go to hell. If you're posting from Bagdad, it won't take you long to get there. Christian NO MATTER HOW MUCH BIG IS THE WORD SIZE ,THE DATA MUCT BE TRANSPORTED INTO THE CPU. - Vinod Sharma Anonymous wrote: OK. I read a c++ book. Or...a bit of it anyway. I'm sick of that evil looking console window. I think you are a good candidate for Visual Basic. - Nemanja Trifunovic

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          I sense some hostility here CG. Jeremy Falcon "so be it, threaten no more, to secure peace is to prepare for war" - Metallica

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          • C Christian Graus

            S. Becker wrote: You can stop discussing at that point. Why ? S. Becker wrote: I bet he still believes GWB wants to free the people in iraq and is not interested in the oil and the contracts for rebuilding the country. If 'he' means me, you need to read my older posts to see I am not in total support of GWB. Christian NO MATTER HOW MUCH BIG IS THE WORD SIZE ,THE DATA MUCT BE TRANSPORTED INTO THE CPU. - Vinod Sharma Anonymous wrote: OK. I read a c++ book. Or...a bit of it anyway. I'm sick of that evil looking console window. I think you are a good candidate for Visual Basic. - Nemanja Trifunovic

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            S Becker
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            No i am not writing about you. 'He' was for the person you have been anwering. Regards Sascha

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            • J Jason Henderson

              peterchen wrote: This actually is a violation of a 1977 amendment to the Geneva convention - one which the US denied to ratify. Guess who was president in 1977? The beloved Jimmy Carter.

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              So, did he not represent US? ... and is ratification of that amendment, an Yes/No answer that could not have been answered again by Raegan/Bush Sr./Clinton/Bush Jr. ? Just curious. My article on a reference-counted smart pointer that supports polymorphic objects and raw pointers

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                So, did he not represent US? ... and is ratification of that amendment, an Yes/No answer that could not have been answered again by Raegan/Bush Sr./Clinton/Bush Jr. ? Just curious. My article on a reference-counted smart pointer that supports polymorphic objects and raw pointers

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                Thomas George wrote: So, did he not represent US? Of course he did, but this is the same man whom the leftists of the world trumpet as a peacemaker. IMO, his administration was an abject failure. Thomas George wrote: an Yes/No answer that could not have been answered again by Raegan/Bush Sr./Clinton/Bush Jr. ? I don't know the answer to that.

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                • D Doug Goulden

                  Yeah, 12 years of other options and how many thousands of dead Iraqis killed by Saddam's hand? I'll bet you believe that Saddam and his Baath party are a bunch of humanitarians...... Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

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                  I know that sadamm is bad. But do you think the allied only attacked the iraq of humanitary reasons? There would by no money for us oil companys and no control over the oil the iraq has. And that is the only reason why GWB started this war. The majority of the un said no to this war but GWB showed us all that he gives a damn to other nations and their opinions. The war in iraq will kill as many people as sadamm could do in the next years. There has been a way to free iraq without going to war: "Placing un observers and un troops there." The troops could be sent from other arabic or asian nations which are not know as to be hated by iraq and completed by un member s of the G8. This would have solved the problem without war. This is the solution for the question what could be done else. The countrys of this area could solve the problem on their own with the help of the un. Sascha

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                    I know that sadamm is bad. But do you think the allied only attacked the iraq of humanitary reasons? There would by no money for us oil companys and no control over the oil the iraq has. And that is the only reason why GWB started this war. The majority of the un said no to this war but GWB showed us all that he gives a damn to other nations and their opinions. The war in iraq will kill as many people as sadamm could do in the next years. There has been a way to free iraq without going to war: "Placing un observers and un troops there." The troops could be sent from other arabic or asian nations which are not know as to be hated by iraq and completed by un member s of the G8. This would have solved the problem without war. This is the solution for the question what could be done else. The countrys of this area could solve the problem on their own with the help of the un. Sascha

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                    S. Becker wrote: "Placing un observers and un troops there." The idea that Saddam Hussein would allow UN observers to hinder him is ridiculous. The UN inspectors that you mention were there from 1991 through 1998, when Saddam ordered them out. The only reason that Saddam allowed inspectors back in was because the US placed 250,000 troops in Kuwait and forced the issue. If the US had not done that that then there would never have been a return to inspections. The other fact that should be considered is that when the Shiites rose up against Saddam in 1991, he slaughtered them by the thousands while the UN and the US stood by. The UN also failed to act in Kosovo leaving the duty to fall upon NATO. The UN is to bound up by different governments with their own self interests to act effectively when there is a need. If the UN was able to act it would have done it in 1991 , or at any other time when Saddam failed to meet the requirements of the cease fire. S. Becker wrote: The countrys of this area could solve the problem on their own with the help of the un. The Arab countries for the region have never shown any desire to solve their own problems. Most of the governments in the region are more interested in maintaining a minority in power than they are interested in helping their own people. Syria, Iran, and Saudi Arabia all have major problems. Afghanistan and the Taliban are an example of a problem that the Arab "people" could not or would not solve. The reality is that the Arab people living in the region have allowed themselves to be played for fools by their governments and their mullahs. The US could have had the Iraqi oil if that was what we wanted in 1991. The reality is that Saddam Hussein and his regime are a danger to world peace and no one is going to stand against him if the US and UK don't. Ansar al-Islam is a threat to the US and all the Islamic people in the world who would want to be free. Why aren't you criticizing the Muslim clerics that are perverting the Islamic religion? Do you think that people who issue a fatwa calling for a Holy War against the infidels are really concerned about the people of Iraq? I don't. Watch the images of what the Feyadeen Saddam are doing to your fellow Arabs.... then tell me who is evil. When this is over and the US and UK have secured the country the government will be turned back over to the Iraqi people where it belongs. Instead of wasting your time complaining about people trying to rem

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                    • J Jeremy Falcon

                      I sense some hostility here CG. Jeremy Falcon "so be it, threaten no more, to secure peace is to prepare for war" - Metallica

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                      So I guess did everyone who voted my post down. What a pack of morons, and the original poster is their leader. I've never heard such a pile of uneducated crap as what he is spouting. Christian NO MATTER HOW MUCH BIG IS THE WORD SIZE ,THE DATA MUCT BE TRANSPORTED INTO THE CPU. - Vinod Sharma Anonymous wrote: OK. I read a c++ book. Or...a bit of it anyway. I'm sick of that evil looking console window. I think you are a good candidate for Visual Basic. - Nemanja Trifunovic

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