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Is Xamarin Gaining?

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    raddevus
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    This infoworld article mentions that Swift popularity has fallen. And yet, people are still developing iOS apps. Could this mean that Xamarin is beginning to win? Could be. That may have interesting impact on Kotlin uptake too. Doing nicely now, Visual Basic’s popularity could take a hit | InfoWorld[^]

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    Elsewhere in this month’s index, Apple’s Swift language experienced a drop year over year, from 12th place last February to 16th place this February, with a rating of 1.794 percent. It was 0.33 percentage points higher the same time last year. Swift had been expected to keep rising in popularity as the successor to Objective-C for iOS mobile development. But Swift’s drop is again being attributed by Tiobe to a growing dominance of cross-platform mobile development frameworks.

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      This infoworld article mentions that Swift popularity has fallen. And yet, people are still developing iOS apps. Could this mean that Xamarin is beginning to win? Could be. That may have interesting impact on Kotlin uptake too. Doing nicely now, Visual Basic’s popularity could take a hit | InfoWorld[^]

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      Elsewhere in this month’s index, Apple’s Swift language experienced a drop year over year, from 12th place last February to 16th place this February, with a rating of 1.794 percent. It was 0.33 percentage points higher the same time last year. Swift had been expected to keep rising in popularity as the successor to Objective-C for iOS mobile development. But Swift’s drop is again being attributed by Tiobe to a growing dominance of cross-platform mobile development frameworks.

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      It is a logical assumption. Learning a language, its philosophy and its framework requires time and money. Single purpose languages are investments with limited return compared to a language that can be used for fundamentally anything, using the same tools and producing software that runs on twice the target devices.

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        It is a logical assumption. Learning a language, its philosophy and its framework requires time and money. Single purpose languages are investments with limited return compared to a language that can be used for fundamentally anything, using the same tools and producing software that runs on twice the target devices.

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        I agree. I think Microsoft has made some big changes that have not looked great in the short run but really may be changes that keep them on top in the long run. It'll be interesting to see how they continue.

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          This infoworld article mentions that Swift popularity has fallen. And yet, people are still developing iOS apps. Could this mean that Xamarin is beginning to win? Could be. That may have interesting impact on Kotlin uptake too. Doing nicely now, Visual Basic’s popularity could take a hit | InfoWorld[^]

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          Elsewhere in this month’s index, Apple’s Swift language experienced a drop year over year, from 12th place last February to 16th place this February, with a rating of 1.794 percent. It was 0.33 percentage points higher the same time last year. Swift had been expected to keep rising in popularity as the successor to Objective-C for iOS mobile development. But Swift’s drop is again being attributed by Tiobe to a growing dominance of cross-platform mobile development frameworks.

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          Dan Neely
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          I think you linked the wrong article, since that one appears to be talking about github counting what's been committed to its public repos, not Tiobe's bogodex. In general though, I' recommend against giving Tiobe's index even as much weight as you paid to see their numbers since all they try and do is count how much each shows up in google results. Beyond worthless doesn't even begin to sum up my feelings for its wretchedness.

          Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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            I think you linked the wrong article, since that one appears to be talking about github counting what's been committed to its public repos, not Tiobe's bogodex. In general though, I' recommend against giving Tiobe's index even as much weight as you paid to see their numbers since all they try and do is count how much each shows up in google results. Beyond worthless doesn't even begin to sum up my feelings for its wretchedness.

            Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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            :-O Oops. Thanks, I fixed it.

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              This infoworld article mentions that Swift popularity has fallen. And yet, people are still developing iOS apps. Could this mean that Xamarin is beginning to win? Could be. That may have interesting impact on Kotlin uptake too. Doing nicely now, Visual Basic’s popularity could take a hit | InfoWorld[^]

              article said:

              Elsewhere in this month’s index, Apple’s Swift language experienced a drop year over year, from 12th place last February to 16th place this February, with a rating of 1.794 percent. It was 0.33 percentage points higher the same time last year. Swift had been expected to keep rising in popularity as the successor to Objective-C for iOS mobile development. But Swift’s drop is again being attributed by Tiobe to a growing dominance of cross-platform mobile development frameworks.

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              BillWoodruff
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              I share with Dan Neely (I think) a general mistrust of such surveys, and their methodology, more so for anything coming out of InfoWorld.

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              Swift popularity has fallen. And yet, people are still developing iOS apps. Could this mean that Xamarin is beginning to win?

              I cannot see any basis for this hypothesis. A .33 per-cent "drop" means ... what ? If there a thousand developers using "X" to create a bunch of cheap store apps, and one-hundred developers using "Y" to develop apps that generate massive revenues and are used by many thousands, and ten-thousand kinda-devs putting up open source projects using "Z" ... what does that tell you about this year's salmon run ? I suspect that over time (sooner) Xamarin will fade in the sense it will be merged into the next shiny thing: MS must play in the cross-platform arena. cheers, Bill

              «... thank the gods that they have made you superior to those events which they have not placed within your own control, rendered you accountable for that only which is within you own control For what, then, have they made you responsible? For that which is alone in your own power—a right use of things as they appear.» Discourses of Epictetus Book I:12

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