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gregs wrote: what the layman calls depression and clinical depression are worlds apart. I assume clinical depression is when you have the neurochemical problem. Or is depression ALWAYS because of this imbalance? How developed is this field? How sure are we that depression is because of the imbalance and not that the imbalance is because of depression? I am a pretty happy person, never been depressed for more than 5 minutes in my life. I just can't stay unhappy, even when I try. So I don't get it when depressed people can't snap themselves out of it.
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Cape Town, South Africabrianwelsch wrote: I find my day goes by more smoothly if I never question other peoples fantasies. My own disturb me enough.
Paul Watson wrote: How sure are we that depression is because of the imbalance and not that the imbalance is because of depression? Good point! My thought is that people are unique enough in their mentality that blanket statements can't be made. People have unique motivations, and depending on these, treatment should be prescribed. BW "I always wanted to be somebody, but now I realize I should have been more specific." - Lily Tomlin
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People with clinical depression should, as you say, be introduced to a medical professional as soon as possible. Unfortunately the only way to get a brighter reality for many of them is medication:( brianwelsch wrote: You have to allow for the fact that straight out telling someone the reality of their situation might snap them out of depression just as well. As I have said above, if you can 'snap them out of it' it isn't clinical depression, and it is unlikely that they'll commit suicide. I'll see if I can find some links for you:)
gregs wrote: Unfortunately the only way to get a brighter reality for many of them is medication It'd be great if we could discover better ways than popping pills to handle this. It just seems like such a band-aid approach. BW "I always wanted to be somebody, but now I realize I should have been more specific." - Lily Tomlin
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gregs wrote: Unfortunately the only way to get a brighter reality for many of them is medication It'd be great if we could discover better ways than popping pills to handle this. It just seems like such a band-aid approach. BW "I always wanted to be somebody, but now I realize I should have been more specific." - Lily Tomlin
Unfortunately there isn't for many forms at the moment:( I found quite a good link. Unfortunately most of the links I have are far to technical:) This is from the student affairs website of the uni of pittsburgh(I don't know anything about the uni, but it is paraphrased from documents from National Mental Health Association and the National Institute of Mental Health. Here[^] it is.
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Bild reported that the man was having an affair with his sister-in-law but she wanted to end it. Well, that explains everything. :rolleyes: Aachen is in your neck area of Germany isn't it? BW "I always wanted to be somebody, but now I realize I should have been more specific." - Lily Tomlin
brianwelsch wrote: Well, that explains everything. Yeah, very thorough solution. I wonder if he's for hire when he's out of jail... brianwelsch wrote: Aachen is in your neck area of Germany isn't it? No... I'm in the Middle-East, and Aachen is "bihind the wall" :cool: But a friend of mine did vacation near there the day it happened...
"Der Geist des Kriegers ist erwacht / Ich hab die Macht" StS
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brianwelsch wrote: Well, that explains everything. Yeah, very thorough solution. I wonder if he's for hire when he's out of jail... brianwelsch wrote: Aachen is in your neck area of Germany isn't it? No... I'm in the Middle-East, and Aachen is "bihind the wall" :cool: But a friend of mine did vacation near there the day it happened...
"Der Geist des Kriegers ist erwacht / Ich hab die Macht" StS
sighist | Agile Programming | doxygenI keep thinking your in Koeln for some reason. :confused: BW "I always wanted to be somebody, but now I realize I should have been more specific." - Lily Tomlin
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I keep thinking your in Koeln for some reason. :confused: BW "I always wanted to be somebody, but now I realize I should have been more specific." - Lily Tomlin
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You won#t find me close to that place without using force ;)
"Der Geist des Kriegers ist erwacht / Ich hab die Macht" StS
sighist | Agile Programming | doxygen:confused: I've liked Koeln whenever I've gone. Is it just too touristy now? BW "I always wanted to be somebody, but now I realize I should have been more specific." - Lily Tomlin
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Smitha! Congrats on your new status! Nice icon. :)
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Its so scary Rog. It frightens me too much :( Smitha You are never given a wish without also being given the power to make it true. You may have to work for it, however. -- Richard Bach
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It is entirely weak, man! Someone who's depressed is too weak to turn around and face their problems, and lets the situation they are in take control of them. That's how they get feeling helpless. I've been plenty depressed, and it's always been ME telling myself to get off my ass to change my situation, not someone coddling me telling how damn brave I am. Christ Almighty!! If we'd stop babying everyone for their shortcomings, and instead got them to realize that 'yes, life really fucking sucks sometimes, deal with it', we'd be doing them a big favor. I'm done ranting now. :) carry on. By the by, what does the neuroscience community consider suicide if not a weakness. BW "I always wanted to be somebody, but now I realize I should have been more specific." - Lily Tomlin
brianwelsch wrote: It is entirely weak, man! Someone who's depressed is too weak to turn around and face their problems, and lets the situation they are in take control of them. That's how they get feeling helpless. I've been plenty depressed, and it's always been ME telling myself to get off my ass to change my situation, not someone coddling me telling how damn brave I am. What you have experienced is not depression. A symptom of clinical depression the re-uptake of seratonin, noradreniline and other chemicals by the neurotransmitters in the brain. It can be treated using selective seratonin re-uptake inhibitors (SSRI's, or SNRI's for noradreninline too) which are 3rd generation antidepressants and very effective. It's not just valium these days. The hardest part in treating depression is getting teh depressed person to seek help. Yelling at them or telling them how messed up they are and to snap out of it doesn't help, believe me I've tried that approach!