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  • C Chris Losinger

    Mike Mullikin wrote: So what's your point? that stopping terrorism by focusing on the weapons is a losing game. Mike Mullikin wrote: Never has so that brings us back to the original question: how can such a "war" be won - assuming after winning, we'd go back to what everyone assumes is the "normal" way of life in the US ? or, are we in for a future of secret detentions of US citizens, constant fear, the binary terror alert chart (it will never go below yellow, and red would cause a panic, so we're stuck with a two color chart) -c

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    Chris Losinger wrote: that stopping terrorism by focusing on the weapons is a losing game. I'd word that as "stopping terrorism by solely focusing on the weapons is a losing game". Of course we need to look at why the terrorist wants to "terrorize" in the first place. If we (or anybody) is doing bad things that antagonize such behavior than it needs to stop, but we can't always please appease everyone. Chris Losinger wrote: are we in for a future of secret detentions of US citizens, constant fear, the binary terror alert chart For the short term (ie. our lifetimes) probably yes. Like you've said before, there are plenty of countries who have been suffering from terrorism for many decades with no signs of change. Why should the US be any different? Mike Mullikin :beer:

    A laundromat is no place to meet women. Afterall, if she can't afford her own washer and dryer how can she support you?

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      Rohit  Sinha wrote: And will you now stop pointing fingers at others? In this entire thread, every one is finger pointing on each other and you didn't threatened anybody. Rohit  Sinha wrote: It's no good and is at best a poor tactic of drawing attention away from yourself. I am not your student :)

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      Lame answer. I am not your student . You should be thankful for that.
      Vikram. ----------------------------- My site due for a massive update Radioactive cats have 18 half-lives. "Do not give redundant error messages again and again." - A classmate of mine, while giving a class talk on error detection in compiler design.

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        Vikram Punathambekar wrote: AS for the link, it doesn't work . I'm using Konqueror though, if it makes any difference. "Times of India" always claimed itself being the largest circulated paper of the world. Though the design is very good, but they never did anything improving their web-site, every now and then an error displayed on the browser that: Cannot view XML input using XSL style sheet

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        John-theKing wrote: Times of India's website sucks, so India sucks. * LMAO. How old are you? 6- it's original. More than that-pathetic. Analogy: And what about Microsoft? Theirs is the most used OS in the world (at least on the desktop). Does that mean Windows never gives any errors? *-Not those identical words, but something to that effect.
        Vikram. ----------------------------- My site due for a massive update Radioactive cats have 18 half-lives. "Do not give redundant error messages again and again." - A classmate of mine, while giving a class talk on error detection in compiler design.

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        • J John theKing

          Rohit  Sinha wrote: And will you now stop pointing fingers at others? In this entire thread, every one is finger pointing on each other and you didn't threatened anybody. Rohit  Sinha wrote: It's no good and is at best a poor tactic of drawing attention away from yourself. I am not your student :)

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          John-theKing wrote: In this entire thread, every one is finger pointing on each other and you didn't threatened anybody. I'm not "threatening" you either, LOL. What I meant was, when someone says "Rohit is a bad guy," if I respond to that with "But John the King is bad too," what kind of defence is this? John-theKing wrote: I am not your student LOL what a disappointment. ;P
          Regards,

          Rohit Sinha

          Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person.
          - Mother Teresa

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            How do you get a police state ? You let people in power do what they want. Its up to the voters in the US to pick canidates who will do something instead of deciding between two clones. Elaine :rose: The tigress is here :-D

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            Trollslayer wrote: Its up to the voters in the US to pick canidates who will do something instead of deciding between two clones. It's much bigger than that. The current two party system along with lobbyists, PACs, campaign finance, etc... needs to change. Sadly, I doubt I'll see any significant change in my lifetime. The boulder is too big and already rolling downhill. Mike Mullikin :beer:

            A laundromat is no place to meet women. Afterall, if she can't afford her own washer and dryer how can she support you?

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            • V Vikram A Punathambekar

              A: Yes! I'm an optimistic person. #1. I'm not sure as to what is right, but what they're doing now is wrong. For a start, stop using double standards, and take a look at Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, North Korea, India Sri Lanka and Phillipines. The first 3 are terrorist states. The last 3 are hit by terrorism, external and internal. #2. Read #1 #3. Sadly, it might. #4. No, by any sane person who thinks all men (and women, of course) are equal. #5. :confused: Sorry, you'll have to educate me there. :-O Regards,
              Vikram. ----------------------------- My site due for a massive update Radioactive cats have 18 half-lives. "Do not give redundant error messages again and again." - A classmate of mine, while giving a class talk on error detection in compiler design.

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              Vikram Punathambekar wrote: North Korea North Korea is a terrorist state? ------------------------------------------ "What happened in that Rhode Island club is shocking. To think that over a hundred people would attend a Great White concert." - The Onion

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                Here's a question to everyone who thinks GWB is doing a good job in his War on Terror (of course I will accept answers from anyone): Q: Can such a war end? 1: If so, how? 2: If not, does that mean the US will be "at war" forever? 3: Many people are using the "we're at war" excuse for restricting freedoms and/or choosing unusual interpretations of the laws regarding detainment, trial and evidence. Does a permanent state of war mean we can expect these abuses to become the norm? 4. Is this acceptable? 5. Clay or Rueben? -c

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                Chris Losinger wrote: Here's a question to everyone who thinks GWB is doing a good job in his War on Terror (of course I will accept answers from anyone): Q: Can such a war end? Here's a question to everyone who thinks GWB is doing a (good/bad/fair/whatever) job in his War on Terror: Q. Can such a war end irregardless of what any president does? Afterall, irregardless of whether there is a "War on Terror", terrorists will still be striving to (1) limit Western cultural influence on the Middle East and return the Islamic world to "the good old days of 15 centuries ago", (2) overturn governments and install Islamic theocracies, (3) fight to establish an Islamic one-world government. (Note: even if you come up with suggestions to reduce Islamic fanatical terrorism, reduction does not equal "an end to war".) ------------------------------------------ "What happened in that Rhode Island club is shocking. To think that over a hundred people would attend a Great White concert." - The Onion

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                  Chris Losinger wrote: Here's a question to everyone who thinks GWB is doing a good job in his War on Terror (of course I will accept answers from anyone): Q: Can such a war end? Here's a question to everyone who thinks GWB is doing a (good/bad/fair/whatever) job in his War on Terror: Q. Can such a war end irregardless of what any president does? Afterall, irregardless of whether there is a "War on Terror", terrorists will still be striving to (1) limit Western cultural influence on the Middle East and return the Islamic world to "the good old days of 15 centuries ago", (2) overturn governments and install Islamic theocracies, (3) fight to establish an Islamic one-world government. (Note: even if you come up with suggestions to reduce Islamic fanatical terrorism, reduction does not equal "an end to war".) ------------------------------------------ "What happened in that Rhode Island club is shocking. To think that over a hundred people would attend a Great White concert." - The Onion

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                  Brit wrote: Here's a question didn't your momma ever tell you "it's not polite to answer a question with a question" ? Brit wrote: Can such a war end irregardless of what any president does? hey, that's what i asked! -c

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                  • V Vikram A Punathambekar

                    A: Yes! I'm an optimistic person. #1. I'm not sure as to what is right, but what they're doing now is wrong. For a start, stop using double standards, and take a look at Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, North Korea, India Sri Lanka and Phillipines. The first 3 are terrorist states. The last 3 are hit by terrorism, external and internal. #2. Read #1 #3. Sadly, it might. #4. No, by any sane person who thinks all men (and women, of course) are equal. #5. :confused: Sorry, you'll have to educate me there. :-O Regards,
                    Vikram. ----------------------------- My site due for a massive update Radioactive cats have 18 half-lives. "Do not give redundant error messages again and again." - A classmate of mine, while giving a class talk on error detection in compiler design.

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                    Vikram Punathambekar wrote: #5. Sorry, you'll have to educate me there. American Idol contestants.

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                    • C Chris Losinger

                      Here's a question to everyone who thinks GWB is doing a good job in his War on Terror (of course I will accept answers from anyone): Q: Can such a war end? 1: If so, how? 2: If not, does that mean the US will be "at war" forever? 3: Many people are using the "we're at war" excuse for restricting freedoms and/or choosing unusual interpretations of the laws regarding detainment, trial and evidence. Does a permanent state of war mean we can expect these abuses to become the norm? 4. Is this acceptable? 5. Clay or Rueben? -c

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                      Chris Losinger wrote: Q: Can such a war end? Unless you define "war" very precisely, it's hard to say. Some wars have gone on for decades, even though the heavy-arms engagements stopped years ago.

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                      • J John theKing

                        Rohit  Sinha wrote: And will you now stop pointing fingers at others? In this entire thread, every one is finger pointing on each other and you didn't threatened anybody. Rohit  Sinha wrote: It's no good and is at best a poor tactic of drawing attention away from yourself. I am not your student :)

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                        Well done Johny darling ;P If you continue answering these Indians in this manner they then you will yourself notice the "quality" of language these Indians starts using. I've some experience dealing with them thats why i didn't replied here. Well done buddy just carry on ....

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                          Well done Johny darling ;P If you continue answering these Indians in this manner they then you will yourself notice the "quality" of language these Indians starts using. I've some experience dealing with them thats why i didn't replied here. Well done buddy just carry on ....

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                          Chaudhri Raheel Ahmed wrote: If you continue answering these Indians in this manner they then you will yourself notice the "quality" of language these Indians starts using Yips ,.. thats why i also stopped replying. I posted a message above to Mr.Vikram just indicating that the web-site of "Times of India" is not what it should be. I had no intention to indicate that Indians are not capable of making web site. But that person taken out his own meaning from my message, though i clearly wrote that the "design" of web site is very good. It just requires some work. Chaudhri Raheel Ahmed wrote: Well done buddy just carry on .... Indeed, if they try to make more propaganda then we are here. I hope other fellows regulars will also join the party.

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                            Well done Johny darling ;P If you continue answering these Indians in this manner they then you will yourself notice the "quality" of language these Indians starts using. I've some experience dealing with them thats why i didn't replied here. Well done buddy just carry on ....

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                            Chaudhri Raheel Ahmed wrote: If you continue answering these Indians in this manner they then you will yourself notice the "quality" of language these Indians starts using. Fuck your momma's ass you anonymouse coward! Shove that gun up your ass you dumb fuck it must be itching. If that doesn't help get a few pubes from your momma's cunt and tickle her fanny with it. And when you and your step brother finish scratching your sister's tits you can go play table tennis with your papa's balls. If you can find them that is. If he had any balls he'd have been your real dad, not just your mom's husband. Ever wonder why your face resembles that of a pig? Now go kill some innocent people you Fidayeen son of a bitch. :laugh: Want some more?
                            Regards,

                            Rohit Sinha

                            Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person.
                            - Mother Teresa

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                              Vikram Punathambekar wrote: AS for the link, it doesn't work . I'm using Konqueror though, if it makes any difference. "Times of India" always claimed itself being the largest circulated paper of the world. Though the design is very good, but they never did anything improving their web-site, every now and then an error displayed on the browser that: Cannot view XML input using XSL style sheet

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                              I agree. This happens every time I try to access a link on that site too. Though if you navigate the links it works. But not so if you click on the link from outside.
                              Regards,

                              Rohit Sinha

                              Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person.
                              - Mother Teresa

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                                I think GWB is doing an average job on the "War on Terror". IMO he should do a lot less talking to the press/public and a lot more international diplomacy. #1 - The "war" can end once ALL of the first world countries decide terrorism has to end and takes it seriously. Whether this will ever happen is another story. IMO the culture clash is too great and a concensus will never be reached. The UN is a waste of time and money to this end. #2 - As long as the US exists there will be people that want to hurt/kill it. That is true of every nation. We live in dangerous times with no great world-wide harmonious epiphonies on the horizon. #3 - Yes, people are generally sheep. Socialism breeds this attitude and fear nurtures it. #4 - No. #5 - I'd much rather eat a Rueben sandwich than a clay sandwich if that's what you mean. ;) Mike Mullikin :beer:

                                A laundromat is no place to meet women. Afterall, if she can't afford her own washer and dryer how can she support you?

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                                Mike Mullikin wrote: Socialism breeds this attitude and fear nurtures it. Socialism doesn't. What you were told was supposed to be soialism maybe. But then, I yet have to find a society that isn't tempted to use it to stabilize. Yes, I've been to the states for half a year.


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                                  Chaudhri Raheel Ahmed wrote: If you continue answering these Indians in this manner they then you will yourself notice the "quality" of language these Indians starts using Yips ,.. thats why i also stopped replying. I posted a message above to Mr.Vikram just indicating that the web-site of "Times of India" is not what it should be. I had no intention to indicate that Indians are not capable of making web site. But that person taken out his own meaning from my message, though i clearly wrote that the "design" of web site is very good. It just requires some work. Chaudhri Raheel Ahmed wrote: Well done buddy just carry on .... Indeed, if they try to make more propaganda then we are here. I hope other fellows regulars will also join the party.

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                                  John-theKing wrote: "Times of India" is not what it should be This website gives error if we have slow internet connection. I am using DSL here and it is opening quickly, though in the past i faced similar problem that you mentioned on my slow dialup. Yes it requires some work. Still it is a better site, very neutral in terms of news just like our dawn.com. But after all it is an Indian site.

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                                    John-theKing wrote: "Times of India" is not what it should be This website gives error if we have slow internet connection. I am using DSL here and it is opening quickly, though in the past i faced similar problem that you mentioned on my slow dialup. Yes it requires some work. Still it is a better site, very neutral in terms of news just like our dawn.com. But after all it is an Indian site.

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                                    Chaudhri Raheel Ahmed wrote: But after all it is an Indian site. You guys do hate us, don't you? Why?
                                    Regards,

                                    Rohit Sinha

                                    Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person.
                                    - Mother Teresa

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                                      Chaudhri Raheel Ahmed wrote: But after all it is an Indian site. You guys do hate us, don't you? Why?
                                      Regards,

                                      Rohit Sinha

                                      Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person.
                                      - Mother Teresa

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                                      Rohit  Sinha wrote: You guys do hate us, don't you? Why? We don't hate Indians neither they hate us. We only hate each other's "views" which are unfortunately totally opposite and differences have their roots is history. One day we have to become good friends because their is no other way to live; as Mr.Vajpaye said that friends can be changed but not neighbours. The day is not looking far when we become good friends but our traditional rivalry will remain till the end of this earth. Just see that there is rivalry b/w Australia and England, jealousy b/w France and UK e.t.c

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                                        John Carson wrote: the Israeli-Palestinian conflict yes, i was thinking the exact same thing while i was running last night. it seems that for the last few years, Israelis have elected people on the idea that the new guy will finally "get tough" on terrorism, because the last guy wasn't doing enough. even though years of Israel's toughness only seems to have increased the number of suicide bombings (ie. the method has been a total failure, if keeping Israel safe from suicide bombings is a goal), it looks like they area afraid to elect anyone who advocates a different approach.

                                        Chris Losinger
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                                        Best summary of the Israeli situation I have ever heard: If the Arabs lay down their weapons today there would be peace tomorrow. If the Israelis lay down their weapons today ther would be no Israel tomorrow. Dave Huff Igor would you give me a hand with the bags? Certainly - you take the blonde and I'll take the one in the turban!

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                                          Best summary of the Israeli situation I have ever heard: If the Arabs lay down their weapons today there would be peace tomorrow. If the Israelis lay down their weapons today ther would be no Israel tomorrow. Dave Huff Igor would you give me a hand with the bags? Certainly - you take the blonde and I'll take the one in the turban!

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                                          Dave Huff wrote: If the Arabs lay down their weapons today there would be peace tomorrow. and settlements as far as the eye can see. Dave Huff wrote: If the Israelis lay down their weapons today ther would be no Israel tomorrow. yup. probably true. -c A vote with no reponse is the way of the coward.

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