Some ideas about the CPP organization
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jhaga wrote: Chris and Paul at the top of course. Paul? - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"
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Organization chart: (I have a thingy for these so bear with me) Chris and Paul at the top of course. Projects coordinator:Jason Henderson - main responsibility is to report to Chris and Paul about requests that the project leaders(PL) have proposed to him. This will prevent individual PL to overload Chris. - should have no saying in individual projects. - can any time contact PLs and propose different ways to collaborate and how to make us all feel like one group. Project leaders: - would have full freedom to build up their own project. Before people join the PL should make clear how decisions are made and the objective of the project. - write up an abstract using a template file to make Jason happy :) Project members: - should give some information about their general CP activity. By for example writing in their biography that they are on vacation etc. Decisions are made by all CPP members doing a "vote 48h" like the one I have posted somewhere around here. And hey, lets open up this forum and we can get going! jhaga CodeProject House, Paul Watson wrote: ...and the roar of John Simmons own personal Nascar in the garage. Meg flitting about taking photos.Chris having an heated arguement with Colin Davies and .S.Rod. over egian values. Nish manically typing *censur*. Duncan racing around after his pet *c.* Michael Martin and Bryce loudly yelling *c.* C.G. having a fit as Roger Wright loads up *c.* . Anna waving her *c.* and Deb scoffing chocolates in the corner. ...Good heavens!
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Organization chart: (I have a thingy for these so bear with me) Chris and Paul at the top of course. Projects coordinator:Jason Henderson - main responsibility is to report to Chris and Paul about requests that the project leaders(PL) have proposed to him. This will prevent individual PL to overload Chris. - should have no saying in individual projects. - can any time contact PLs and propose different ways to collaborate and how to make us all feel like one group. Project leaders: - would have full freedom to build up their own project. Before people join the PL should make clear how decisions are made and the objective of the project. - write up an abstract using a template file to make Jason happy :) Project members: - should give some information about their general CP activity. By for example writing in their biography that they are on vacation etc. Decisions are made by all CPP members doing a "vote 48h" like the one I have posted somewhere around here. And hey, lets open up this forum and we can get going! jhaga CodeProject House, Paul Watson wrote: ...and the roar of John Simmons own personal Nascar in the garage. Meg flitting about taking photos.Chris having an heated arguement with Colin Davies and .S.Rod. over egian values. Nish manically typing *censur*. Duncan racing around after his pet *c.* Michael Martin and Bryce loudly yelling *c.* C.G. having a fit as Roger Wright loads up *c.* . Anna waving her *c.* and Deb scoffing chocolates in the corner. ...Good heavens!
OK, this is a good good question. First of all, I don't think Paul is in the heirarchy with Chris here on CP. Secondly, we're going to do all of this without bugging Chris too much. So all requests should go through me if possible and I will compile a list of CP improvements pertaining to projects and give them to Chris at or near the end of Phase 3 or earlier if the need arises. Third, as for my role in all this, I may want to join a project but like you said, once the projects start I want the PLs to take over. I would like to stay involved on a global scale and give suggestions from time to time and be a soundboard for the PLs. I think of myself being the "invisible hand" leading all 3 projects to completion. (I will also be here for complaints I guess.) Fourth, I want the PLs to be free but I want to help them set down the guidlines and the processes to make things run smoothly. That's where the abstract comes in. We need certain standards that's all. Last but not least, project members definitely should give out their current activity and experience when asked by the PL. I don't think resumes or CVs are necessary, but code examples or past articles on CP would be good reference. I'll leave the decision making up to the PLs, so if they want to run a tight ship that's their prerogative. BTW, I'm not ready to open the forum yet, so cool your jets. I would rather be the guy that posts things and I will start posting RFCs here soon.
Jason Henderson
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." - Winston Churchill
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OK, this is a good good question. First of all, I don't think Paul is in the heirarchy with Chris here on CP. Secondly, we're going to do all of this without bugging Chris too much. So all requests should go through me if possible and I will compile a list of CP improvements pertaining to projects and give them to Chris at or near the end of Phase 3 or earlier if the need arises. Third, as for my role in all this, I may want to join a project but like you said, once the projects start I want the PLs to take over. I would like to stay involved on a global scale and give suggestions from time to time and be a soundboard for the PLs. I think of myself being the "invisible hand" leading all 3 projects to completion. (I will also be here for complaints I guess.) Fourth, I want the PLs to be free but I want to help them set down the guidlines and the processes to make things run smoothly. That's where the abstract comes in. We need certain standards that's all. Last but not least, project members definitely should give out their current activity and experience when asked by the PL. I don't think resumes or CVs are necessary, but code examples or past articles on CP would be good reference. I'll leave the decision making up to the PLs, so if they want to run a tight ship that's their prerogative. BTW, I'm not ready to open the forum yet, so cool your jets. I would rather be the guy that posts things and I will start posting RFCs here soon.
Jason Henderson
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." - Winston Churchill
Mostly I agree with you. Paul is online alot and at times when we in Europe are awake. After Chris, he is the best one to give feedback to our ideas. If you have somebody else please put forward. The more people interested in what we do the better. And to close down this forum temporarly was a good idea but now, or very soon, it should open up so that we can air our opinions. This RFC I don't understand so I will not say anything about that. :) The abstract you mention is perfect for giving a framework for our projects, but after that it should be free for PL to do their work without anybody interfering. jhaga CodeProject House, Paul Watson wrote: ...and the roar of John Simmons own personal Nascar in the garage. Meg flitting about taking photos.Chris having an heated arguement with Colin Davies and .S.Rod. over egian values. Nish manically typing *censur*. Duncan racing around after his pet *c.* Michael Martin and Bryce loudly yelling *c.* C.G. having a fit as Roger Wright loads up *c.* . Anna waving her *c.* and Deb scoffing chocolates in the corner. ...Good heavens!
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Mostly I agree with you. Paul is online alot and at times when we in Europe are awake. After Chris, he is the best one to give feedback to our ideas. If you have somebody else please put forward. The more people interested in what we do the better. And to close down this forum temporarly was a good idea but now, or very soon, it should open up so that we can air our opinions. This RFC I don't understand so I will not say anything about that. :) The abstract you mention is perfect for giving a framework for our projects, but after that it should be free for PL to do their work without anybody interfering. jhaga CodeProject House, Paul Watson wrote: ...and the roar of John Simmons own personal Nascar in the garage. Meg flitting about taking photos.Chris having an heated arguement with Colin Davies and .S.Rod. over egian values. Nish manically typing *censur*. Duncan racing around after his pet *c.* Michael Martin and Bryce loudly yelling *c.* C.G. having a fit as Roger Wright loads up *c.* . Anna waving her *c.* and Deb scoffing chocolates in the corner. ...Good heavens!
jhaga wrote: And to close down this forum temporarly was a good idea but now, or very soon, it should open up so that we can air our opinions. This RFC I don't understand so I will not say anything about that. RFC = request for comments This gives me more control over what gets put out here. Without control there would be complete chaos here, so I will maintain it until the teams are formed and projects started. Of course, this is not my web site, and all control I have is granted by you and others interested in CPP. I have no legal right to keep you from posting anything. But, if you wish this to go smoothly (as it has so far), then please continue to let me make the rules. jhaga wrote: The abstract you mention is perfect for giving a framework for our projects, but after that it should be free for PL to do their work without anybody interfering. I won't interfere with the project decisions (unless I am on the team), but I will try to influence how things are run so we stay on track. Does that sound reasonable? Even if it doesn't, I'm going to do it anyway, since I have taken the initiative here. I will try not to get in the way, but I'll try to keep things from falling apart if possible.
Jason Henderson
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." - Winston Churchill
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jhaga wrote: And to close down this forum temporarly was a good idea but now, or very soon, it should open up so that we can air our opinions. This RFC I don't understand so I will not say anything about that. RFC = request for comments This gives me more control over what gets put out here. Without control there would be complete chaos here, so I will maintain it until the teams are formed and projects started. Of course, this is not my web site, and all control I have is granted by you and others interested in CPP. I have no legal right to keep you from posting anything. But, if you wish this to go smoothly (as it has so far), then please continue to let me make the rules. jhaga wrote: The abstract you mention is perfect for giving a framework for our projects, but after that it should be free for PL to do their work without anybody interfering. I won't interfere with the project decisions (unless I am on the team), but I will try to influence how things are run so we stay on track. Does that sound reasonable? Even if it doesn't, I'm going to do it anyway, since I have taken the initiative here. I will try not to get in the way, but I'll try to keep things from falling apart if possible.
Jason Henderson
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." - Winston Churchill
I don't understand why you would need to control our messages, but once I see the first RFC, maybe I will understand. Anyhow I have been CP addict lately, and really need to do some other things. Once I get abstinens symptoms and can't stay away, I will attack you again. (just joking) jhaga CodeProject House, Paul Watson wrote: ...and the roar of John Simmons own personal Nascar in the garage. Meg flitting about taking photos.Chris having an heated arguement with Colin Davies and .S.Rod. over egian values. Nish manically typing *censur*. Duncan racing around after his pet *c.* Michael Martin and Bryce loudly yelling *c.* C.G. having a fit as Roger Wright loads up *c.* . Anna waving her *c.* and Deb scoffing chocolates in the corner. ...Good heavens!
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I don't understand why you would need to control our messages, but once I see the first RFC, maybe I will understand. Anyhow I have been CP addict lately, and really need to do some other things. Once I get abstinens symptoms and can't stay away, I will attack you again. (just joking) jhaga CodeProject House, Paul Watson wrote: ...and the roar of John Simmons own personal Nascar in the garage. Meg flitting about taking photos.Chris having an heated arguement with Colin Davies and .S.Rod. over egian values. Nish manically typing *censur*. Duncan racing around after his pet *c.* Michael Martin and Bryce loudly yelling *c.* C.G. having a fit as Roger Wright loads up *c.* . Anna waving her *c.* and Deb scoffing chocolates in the corner. ...Good heavens!
jhaga wrote: I don't undestand why you would need to control our messages Look at it this way, if I post something important without controling the other messages, the important message would quickly get moved to the bottom of the forum. It helps ease the confusion.
Jason Henderson
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." - Winston Churchill
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jhaga wrote: I don't undestand why you would need to control our messages Look at it this way, if I post something important without controling the other messages, the important message would quickly get moved to the bottom of the forum. It helps ease the confusion.
Jason Henderson
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." - Winston Churchill
Ok, I will follow this forum with great interest. jhaga CodeProject House, Paul Watson wrote: ...and the roar of John Simmons own personal Nascar in the garage. Meg flitting about taking photos.Chris having an heated arguement with Colin Davies and .S.Rod. over egian values. Nish manically typing *censur*. Duncan racing around after his pet *c.* Michael Martin and Bryce loudly yelling *c.* C.G. having a fit as Roger Wright loads up *c.* . Anna waving her *c.* and Deb scoffing chocolates in the corner. ...Good heavens!
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Organization chart: (I have a thingy for these so bear with me) Chris and Paul at the top of course. Projects coordinator:Jason Henderson - main responsibility is to report to Chris and Paul about requests that the project leaders(PL) have proposed to him. This will prevent individual PL to overload Chris. - should have no saying in individual projects. - can any time contact PLs and propose different ways to collaborate and how to make us all feel like one group. Project leaders: - would have full freedom to build up their own project. Before people join the PL should make clear how decisions are made and the objective of the project. - write up an abstract using a template file to make Jason happy :) Project members: - should give some information about their general CP activity. By for example writing in their biography that they are on vacation etc. Decisions are made by all CPP members doing a "vote 48h" like the one I have posted somewhere around here. And hey, lets open up this forum and we can get going! jhaga CodeProject House, Paul Watson wrote: ...and the roar of John Simmons own personal Nascar in the garage. Meg flitting about taking photos.Chris having an heated arguement with Colin Davies and .S.Rod. over egian values. Nish manically typing *censur*. Duncan racing around after his pet *c.* Michael Martin and Bryce loudly yelling *c.* C.G. having a fit as Roger Wright loads up *c.* . Anna waving her *c.* and Deb scoffing chocolates in the corner. ...Good heavens!
Jhaga, I think we need to get this cleared up now rather than later. Firstly I am flattered you think I am Chris' right hand man. But I am just an average member here at Code Project. I do not have special privileges. Chris and I do chat but this is his baby. Sometimes he asks me to help out with a bit of code but at most I will develop the code, email it to him and he integrates it with CP (or re-writes it, the code not CP :).) In terms of CP2, Jason Henderson is the man. I listen to him and this is his baby. I am going to be just a pair of hands and maybe some bright ideas. So just to clarify; I don't work for CP. I don't have special privileges*. I have a cool icon but that is more because Chris is a giving soul than anything else. And finally Jason Henderson is Mr. CP2. I am flattered, but I must plead innocence :) * Much as people awhile back liked to think it, I cannot edit other peoples posts, delete them or move them :)
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaChris Losinger wrote: i hate needles so much i can't even imagine allowing one near The Little Programmer
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Jhaga, I think we need to get this cleared up now rather than later. Firstly I am flattered you think I am Chris' right hand man. But I am just an average member here at Code Project. I do not have special privileges. Chris and I do chat but this is his baby. Sometimes he asks me to help out with a bit of code but at most I will develop the code, email it to him and he integrates it with CP (or re-writes it, the code not CP :).) In terms of CP2, Jason Henderson is the man. I listen to him and this is his baby. I am going to be just a pair of hands and maybe some bright ideas. So just to clarify; I don't work for CP. I don't have special privileges*. I have a cool icon but that is more because Chris is a giving soul than anything else. And finally Jason Henderson is Mr. CP2. I am flattered, but I must plead innocence :) * Much as people awhile back liked to think it, I cannot edit other peoples posts, delete them or move them :)
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaChris Losinger wrote: i hate needles so much i can't even imagine allowing one near The Little Programmer
I know Paul. I just have a bad habit of throwing in something new so that people reveal their inner soul. Apart from that I dislike stiff orgaizations and like to see people in different positions. My vision about CPP is a democratic structure were we could do fast decisions depending on the current situation. If somebody is on holiday, or sick, or away from CP for a long time, we just elect a new leader to take over and continue. I think anybody staying away from CP for more than one week can be classified as inactive if he hasn't given any reason, or what do you think? Anyhow at the moment I am trying to get over my CP addiction. I have a bad habit of checking CP every 30 min. :) Once a day has to be enough! jhaga CodeProject House, Paul Watson wrote: ...and the roar of John Simmons own personal Nascar in the garage. Meg flitting about taking photos.Chris having an heated arguement with Colin Davies and .S.Rod. over egian values. Nish manically typing *censur*. Duncan racing around after his pet *c.* Michael Martin and Bryce loudly yelling *c.* C.G. having a fit as Roger Wright loads up *c.* . Anna waving her *c.* and Deb scoffing chocolates in the corner. ...Good heavens!