Safety Agency Expands Tesla Autopilot Investigation
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Reported on before, but this gives more details:
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The safety agency found that there were 16 crashes involving a Tesla striking first responder and road maintenance vehicles. Many of these incidents had some form of intervention from the forward collision warning and/or automatic emergency braking systems, but on average, Autopilot aborted vehicle control less than 1 second prior to impact. Of those crashes, NHTSA found that driver attention warnings were issued in just two cases.
- [NHTSA Expands Tesla Autopilot Investigation - Consumer Reports](https://www.consumerreports.org/car-safety/nhtsa-expands-tesla-autopilot-investigation-a7977631326/)
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Reported on before, but this gives more details:
Quote:
The safety agency found that there were 16 crashes involving a Tesla striking first responder and road maintenance vehicles. Many of these incidents had some form of intervention from the forward collision warning and/or automatic emergency braking systems, but on average, Autopilot aborted vehicle control less than 1 second prior to impact. Of those crashes, NHTSA found that driver attention warnings were issued in just two cases.
- [NHTSA Expands Tesla Autopilot Investigation - Consumer Reports](https://www.consumerreports.org/car-safety/nhtsa-expands-tesla-autopilot-investigation-a7977631326/)
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What I don't get is this notion that just because is electric doesn't just automatically mean AFAIK, that you have to, or now get to, do autopilot. Why don't we have this in high end ice cars like jag who ran out of stuff to try when price was no object? I'm all for Tesla and the rockets, maybe seducing Fred and Ethel to run with autopoilot like it's gonna save them is a bad idea. Just drive.
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What I don't get is this notion that just because is electric doesn't just automatically mean AFAIK, that you have to, or now get to, do autopilot. Why don't we have this in high end ice cars like jag who ran out of stuff to try when price was no object? I'm all for Tesla and the rockets, maybe seducing Fred and Ethel to run with autopoilot like it's gonna save them is a bad idea. Just drive.
Ron Anders wrote:
just because is electric doesn't just automatically mean AFAIK, that you have to, or now get to, do autopilot
It doesn't; there is no technical reason why similar systems could not be developed for any vehicle. I suspect that Market Research showed that people who buy high-end cars like Jaguars do so for the joy of driving them, while those who buy electric vehicles do so just to get from A to B while feeling good about their "contribution to the planet".
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.
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Reported on before, but this gives more details:
Quote:
The safety agency found that there were 16 crashes involving a Tesla striking first responder and road maintenance vehicles. Many of these incidents had some form of intervention from the forward collision warning and/or automatic emergency braking systems, but on average, Autopilot aborted vehicle control less than 1 second prior to impact. Of those crashes, NHTSA found that driver attention warnings were issued in just two cases.
- [NHTSA Expands Tesla Autopilot Investigation - Consumer Reports](https://www.consumerreports.org/car-safety/nhtsa-expands-tesla-autopilot-investigation-a7977631326/)
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While 16 crashes sounds serious, and they probably were for those involved, they are but a small portion of all crashes involving road work crews. Since Autopilot is not advertised as a fully autonomous system I think the NHTSA would be better served ensuring that full self driving systems handle this situation.
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While 16 crashes sounds serious, and they probably were for those involved, they are but a small portion of all crashes involving road work crews. Since Autopilot is not advertised as a fully autonomous system I think the NHTSA would be better served ensuring that full self driving systems handle this situation.
obermd wrote:
Since Autopilot is not advertised as a fully autonomous
and since crashes have happened multiple times on it, perhaps it should be disabled until it is fully autonomous.
obermd wrote:
the NHTSA would be better served ensuring that full self driving systems handle this situation
The car manufacturers are the ones that ensure it. NHTSA can only define it and enforce that definition.
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obermd wrote:
Since Autopilot is not advertised as a fully autonomous
and since crashes have happened multiple times on it, perhaps it should be disabled until it is fully autonomous.
obermd wrote:
the NHTSA would be better served ensuring that full self driving systems handle this situation
The car manufacturers are the ones that ensure it. NHTSA can only define it and enforce that definition.
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David O'Neil wrote:
and since crashes have happened multiple times on it, perhaps it should be disabled until it is fully autonomous.
In this case let's disable all driver assist features, including automatic transmission slush boxes that allow the car to creep forward if the driver's foot isn't on the brake. The bottom line is that until fully autonomous vehicles are proven safe on the roads safety remains the driver's responsibility.
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David O'Neil wrote:
and since crashes have happened multiple times on it, perhaps it should be disabled until it is fully autonomous.
In this case let's disable all driver assist features, including automatic transmission slush boxes that allow the car to creep forward if the driver's foot isn't on the brake. The bottom line is that until fully autonomous vehicles are proven safe on the roads safety remains the driver's responsibility.
Yeah, maybe the safety agency should create a universal test course for autonomous vehicles that standardizes the way they are tested.
The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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Ron Anders wrote:
just because is electric doesn't just automatically mean AFAIK, that you have to, or now get to, do autopilot
It doesn't; there is no technical reason why similar systems could not be developed for any vehicle. I suspect that Market Research showed that people who buy high-end cars like Jaguars do so for the joy of driving them, while those who buy electric vehicles do so just to get from A to B while feeling good about their "contribution to the planet".
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.
Daniel Pfeffer wrote:
while feeling good about their "contribution to the planet".
the sad part is that few see that the total impact is not really that much lower than before :sigh:
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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David O'Neil wrote:
and since crashes have happened multiple times on it, perhaps it should be disabled until it is fully autonomous.
In this case let's disable all driver assist features, including automatic transmission slush boxes that allow the car to creep forward if the driver's foot isn't on the brake. The bottom line is that until fully autonomous vehicles are proven safe on the roads safety remains the driver's responsibility.
obermd wrote:
roads safety remains the driver's responsibility.
So take away the system that makes them think it isn't.
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Reported on before, but this gives more details:
Quote:
The safety agency found that there were 16 crashes involving a Tesla striking first responder and road maintenance vehicles. Many of these incidents had some form of intervention from the forward collision warning and/or automatic emergency braking systems, but on average, Autopilot aborted vehicle control less than 1 second prior to impact. Of those crashes, NHTSA found that driver attention warnings were issued in just two cases.
- [NHTSA Expands Tesla Autopilot Investigation - Consumer Reports](https://www.consumerreports.org/car-safety/nhtsa-expands-tesla-autopilot-investigation-a7977631326/)
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reminds me of will smith in irobot
Caveat Emptor. "Progress doesn't come from early risers – progress is made by lazy men looking for easier ways to do things." Lazarus Long
God I hated that movie. Loved the book. Hated the movie.
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God I hated that movie. Loved the book. Hated the movie.
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