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Supposedly quantum-proof encryption cracked by basic PC

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    Kent Sharkey
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    Gizmodo[^]:

    An encryption algorithm that was supposed to stand up to attacks from the future's most powerful computers was recently laid low by a much simpler machine.

    Maybe it's just good against quantum computers?

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      Gizmodo[^]:

      An encryption algorithm that was supposed to stand up to attacks from the future's most powerful computers was recently laid low by a much simpler machine.

      Maybe it's just good against quantum computers?

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        Gizmodo[^]:

        An encryption algorithm that was supposed to stand up to attacks from the future's most powerful computers was recently laid low by a much simpler machine.

        Maybe it's just good against quantum computers?

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        I told you guys before that a one time pad is unbreakable. Maybe the supposedly encryption algorithm developers did not read this site or other sites that people told them that. Specifically, according to a a report on Single-Core CPU Cracked Post-Quantum Encryption Candidate Algorithm in Just an Hour[^] the algorithm used two curves and a map between them. That can be found via calculus which existed before electronic computers. When I went to college, long ago, some engineers and other fields were required to learn all 4 semesters of calculus. If an engineer saw the logic path of the algorithm, they might have cracked it in less than 5 minutes without a computer. Man made and man devisied Algorithms can be broken. According to Wouter Castryck, KU Leuven, and Thomas Decru, KU Leuven, "Our attack exploits the existence of a small non-scalar endomorphism on the starting curve" and this was on an old single core "in about one hour". Back to the Quantum computer stuff: It does not exist as a different system from binary analytics. Both use transistors, or if they can print them small enough Insulated Gate Bipolar Transistors, which are both just transistors. Nothing new. An IGBT just has an insulator that resists cross-talk or current leakage between the switch and the switched. A quantum computer is being advertised as using more binary to construct basic binary, therefore it is based upon transistor binary operations at its basic level. Think of an 8 bit byte thereupon requiring 8,000 [whatever they want to call them] binary switches just to get back to that byte. I expeced this to happen. Thank you.

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          I told you guys before that a one time pad is unbreakable. Maybe the supposedly encryption algorithm developers did not read this site or other sites that people told them that. Specifically, according to a a report on Single-Core CPU Cracked Post-Quantum Encryption Candidate Algorithm in Just an Hour[^] the algorithm used two curves and a map between them. That can be found via calculus which existed before electronic computers. When I went to college, long ago, some engineers and other fields were required to learn all 4 semesters of calculus. If an engineer saw the logic path of the algorithm, they might have cracked it in less than 5 minutes without a computer. Man made and man devisied Algorithms can be broken. According to Wouter Castryck, KU Leuven, and Thomas Decru, KU Leuven, "Our attack exploits the existence of a small non-scalar endomorphism on the starting curve" and this was on an old single core "in about one hour". Back to the Quantum computer stuff: It does not exist as a different system from binary analytics. Both use transistors, or if they can print them small enough Insulated Gate Bipolar Transistors, which are both just transistors. Nothing new. An IGBT just has an insulator that resists cross-talk or current leakage between the switch and the switched. A quantum computer is being advertised as using more binary to construct basic binary, therefore it is based upon transistor binary operations at its basic level. Think of an 8 bit byte thereupon requiring 8,000 [whatever they want to call them] binary switches just to get back to that byte. I expeced this to happen. Thank you.

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          Member 15078716 wrote:

          When I went to college, long ago, some engineers and other fields were required to learn all 4 semesters of calculus. If an engineer saw the logic path of the algorithm, they might have cracked it in less than 5 minutes without a computer. Man made and man devisied Algorithms can be broken.

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            Gizmodo[^]:

            An encryption algorithm that was supposed to stand up to attacks from the future's most powerful computers was recently laid low by a much simpler machine.

            Maybe it's just good against quantum computers?

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            it math is used to encrypt, and math used to decrypt, then math would say math can be used to hack/decrypt/crack said encryption. and somepeople write complex math, newtonion physics, then someone comes along and says, you can simply that to e=mc2

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              it math is used to encrypt, and math used to decrypt, then math would say math can be used to hack/decrypt/crack said encryption. and somepeople write complex math, newtonion physics, then someone comes along and says, you can simply that to e=mc2

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              I think that of all the math formulas that I have been given in this life, that one (e=mc^2) took me the longest to understand. I found quantum physics to be very interesting, but difficult to fully understand. I think that I might have read 3 or 4 books on Einstein and his own explainations of that before I became comfortable with quantum logic (the "real" quantum logic). Those "quantum" computers which are being tested by the National Bureau of Standards are not quantum mechanic based. They are fake quantum. They are a scam. The NBS has proven the current concept of quantum machines as advertised to be applied to currently built computers to be a scam. Back to the encrypting: If a code generated by machine could not be cracked, other than a true One Time Pad (which is by definition NON-REUSABLE), then the NBS would have found it already.

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