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    Kent Sharkey
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    Reuters[^]:

    Microsoft is likely to face an EU antitrust investigation as regulators intensify their scrutiny into its practices in a case triggered by Salesforce.com’s workspace messaging app Slack

    Stop me if you've heard this one before

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      Reuters[^]:

      Microsoft is likely to face an EU antitrust investigation as regulators intensify their scrutiny into its practices in a case triggered by Salesforce.com’s workspace messaging app Slack

      Stop me if you've heard this one before

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      Dan Neely
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      Slack urged the EU competition enforcer to order the U.S. software giant to separate Teams from the Office Suit and sell it separately at fair commercial prices.

      Slack had better be careful what they wish for. One of the biggest competitors in the market is Discord, which has a free version good enough for 99% of uses. 😲 I would laugh so hard if forced to do what Slack wants, Microsoft makes everything in Teams free unless someone wants to pay a few dollars a month to add custom company logo emoji to the chat. 🤣 Then I'd start sobbing because doing so would make it more likely that PHBs would decide Teams is a better value* than Slack and Zoom. 😭 * For values that don't include things like actually working well, but these are PHBs we're talking about. 🤦🏽‍♂️

      Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius

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        Slack urged the EU competition enforcer to order the U.S. software giant to separate Teams from the Office Suit and sell it separately at fair commercial prices.

        Slack had better be careful what they wish for. One of the biggest competitors in the market is Discord, which has a free version good enough for 99% of uses. 😲 I would laugh so hard if forced to do what Slack wants, Microsoft makes everything in Teams free unless someone wants to pay a few dollars a month to add custom company logo emoji to the chat. 🤣 Then I'd start sobbing because doing so would make it more likely that PHBs would decide Teams is a better value* than Slack and Zoom. 😭 * For values that don't include things like actually working well, but these are PHBs we're talking about. 🤦🏽‍♂️

        Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius

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        MarkTJohnson
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        Dan Neely wrote:

        Then I'd start sobbing because doing so would make it more likely that PHBs would decide Teams is a better value* than Slack and Zoom.

        That is EXACTLY what happened at my job, except the "techinical" people got to keep Slack (for now at least) Teams' meetings suck rocks. If you don't have the window maximized screen sharing is blurry. Never was like that on Zoom.

        I’ve given up trying to be calm. However, I am open to feeling slightly less agitated.

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          Dan Neely wrote:

          Then I'd start sobbing because doing so would make it more likely that PHBs would decide Teams is a better value* than Slack and Zoom.

          That is EXACTLY what happened at my job, except the "techinical" people got to keep Slack (for now at least) Teams' meetings suck rocks. If you don't have the window maximized screen sharing is blurry. Never was like that on Zoom.

          I’ve given up trying to be calm. However, I am open to feeling slightly less agitated.

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          Dan Neely
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          MarkTJohnson wrote:

          That is EXACTLY what happened at my job, except the "techinical" people got to keep Slack (for now at least)

          Fortunately the only person at my current employer who'll admit to liking Teams isn't in the chain for deciding on tools. Our sales/etc people say it's something they only use when forced to by overly restrictive customer firewall settings. Otherwise we use a mix of slack and zoom. Mostly slack on my half of the company with Zoom just for meetings; our corporate overlords use Zoom much more extensively.

          Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius

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            Slack urged the EU competition enforcer to order the U.S. software giant to separate Teams from the Office Suit and sell it separately at fair commercial prices.

            Slack had better be careful what they wish for. One of the biggest competitors in the market is Discord, which has a free version good enough for 99% of uses. 😲 I would laugh so hard if forced to do what Slack wants, Microsoft makes everything in Teams free unless someone wants to pay a few dollars a month to add custom company logo emoji to the chat. 🤣 Then I'd start sobbing because doing so would make it more likely that PHBs would decide Teams is a better value* than Slack and Zoom. 😭 * For values that don't include things like actually working well, but these are PHBs we're talking about. 🤦🏽‍♂️

            Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius

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            Daniel Pfeffer
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            Dan Neely wrote:

            For values that don't include things like actually working well, but these are PHBs we're talking about

            Teams appears to work OK for our small (<10 people) meetings. What parts of the application don't work for you?

            Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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              Dan Neely wrote:

              For values that don't include things like actually working well, but these are PHBs we're talking about

              Teams appears to work OK for our small (<10 people) meetings. What parts of the application don't work for you?

              Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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              I don't use it. Complaints from people I know mostly are about the quality and reliability of calls or design features they find user-hostile but can't change or disable.

              Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius

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                Dan Neely wrote:

                Then I'd start sobbing because doing so would make it more likely that PHBs would decide Teams is a better value* than Slack and Zoom.

                That is EXACTLY what happened at my job, except the "techinical" people got to keep Slack (for now at least) Teams' meetings suck rocks. If you don't have the window maximized screen sharing is blurry. Never was like that on Zoom.

                I’ve given up trying to be calm. However, I am open to feeling slightly less agitated.

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                obermd
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                This is a video driver issue. I had similar problems with Zoom running on Intel video hardware in both Dell XPS and MS-Surface Pro systems. Zoom even noted that they knew about the issue. Solution: update your video drivers.

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                  Reuters[^]:

                  Microsoft is likely to face an EU antitrust investigation as regulators intensify their scrutiny into its practices in a case triggered by Salesforce.com’s workspace messaging app Slack

                  Stop me if you've heard this one before

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                  obermd
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                  Gotta love these huge companies getting the government to help them compete.

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