Google Chrome will limit ad blockers starting June 2024
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The "Manifest V3" rollout is back after letting tensions cool for a year.
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The "Manifest V3" rollout is back after letting tensions cool for a year.
This business decision brought to you by Microsoft Edge
That's why a host file is more effective than an ad-blocker. Block the server, not the ad. Also, if you use Chrome, you deserve it :)
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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That's why a host file is more effective than an ad-blocker. Block the server, not the ad. Also, if you use Chrome, you deserve it :)
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
Question: does the hosts file support having a couple of million domains in it?
The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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Question: does the hosts file support having a couple of million domains in it?
The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.
Half a megabyte right now. No adblockers, no virusscanner, no problems. And it works for everything that accesses the internet, as it is not just a browser-plug in. Works for everything accessing the internet as it is on the OS-level, without me having to block stuff on the router. How did you come up with the number? :)
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Half a megabyte right now. No adblockers, no virusscanner, no problems. And it works for everything that accesses the internet, as it is not just a browser-plug in. Works for everything accessing the internet as it is on the OS-level, without me having to block stuff on the router. How did you come up with the number? :)
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
I was just wondering because my custom ad blocker that I've been working on now for two years is currently supporting over 4 million domains to block, and I want to get some idea of what the competition is like. Off hand, I would say that half a megabyte of domains is not anywhere close to 4 million domains, because my ad blocker's SQLite database is over 430 megabytes. True, I'm storing more data per domain than the hosts file, but maybe you could open your hosts file in notepad++ to see how many lines it has.
The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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I was just wondering because my custom ad blocker that I've been working on now for two years is currently supporting over 4 million domains to block, and I want to get some idea of what the competition is like. Off hand, I would say that half a megabyte of domains is not anywhere close to 4 million domains, because my ad blocker's SQLite database is over 430 megabytes. True, I'm storing more data per domain than the hosts file, but maybe you could open your hosts file in notepad++ to see how many lines it has.
The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.
Richard Andrew x64 wrote:
I was just wondering because my custom ad blocker that I've been working on now for two years is currently supporting over 4 million domains to block, and I want to get some idea of what the competition is like.
It's not competition and it is not an ad blocker. I'm mostly running the MVPS' host file, with a very few domains merged into it. Hosts files do support wildcards; so it ain't 430 Mb in size, naming every domain. You could do similar but more advanced with a nice regex :) It is a way of blocking like the router does; it does not actually detect or know if something is pushing ads. So, yes, your solution may be better - I just have an app that downloads the MVPS' file and adds a few lines from me to it. I'd prefer something that can actually update the router, so any device using it would be more secure. In another location I'm using a Pi. Good firewall, if not too many users.
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Richard Andrew x64 wrote:
I was just wondering because my custom ad blocker that I've been working on now for two years is currently supporting over 4 million domains to block, and I want to get some idea of what the competition is like.
It's not competition and it is not an ad blocker. I'm mostly running the MVPS' host file, with a very few domains merged into it. Hosts files do support wildcards; so it ain't 430 Mb in size, naming every domain. You could do similar but more advanced with a nice regex :) It is a way of blocking like the router does; it does not actually detect or know if something is pushing ads. So, yes, your solution may be better - I just have an app that downloads the MVPS' file and adds a few lines from me to it. I'd prefer something that can actually update the router, so any device using it would be more secure. In another location I'm using a Pi. Good firewall, if not too many users.
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
I was just wondering if the hosts file can support millions of domains. Thanks for your explanation! :) (I totally understand if you don't know the answer, as I do not either.)
The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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Half a megabyte right now. No adblockers, no virusscanner, no problems. And it works for everything that accesses the internet, as it is not just a browser-plug in. Works for everything accessing the internet as it is on the OS-level, without me having to block stuff on the router. How did you come up with the number? :)
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
Was it not in debate to change something in the way traffic is redirected through the nodes that would render the host file blocking useless if it gets implemented and rolled out?
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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That's why a host file is more effective than an ad-blocker. Block the server, not the ad. Also, if you use Chrome, you deserve it :)
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
That's fine, until Chrome starts mandating DNS over HTTPS "for security reasons". That bypasses the hosts file and sends the DNS queries directly to the chosen DOH server. Then, when someone starts offering a DOH server with built-in ad-blocking, Chrome will suddenly mandate that you have to use Google's DOH server "for security reasons". And oh, what a surprise: they'll "accidentally" introduce an annoying delay in responses when looking up any of their competitors. They may not be able to force you to use their advert malvertising search engine, but they can sure as hell make it as difficult as possible to use anything else. What they won't tell you is that the "security" they're interested in isn't your security; it's the "security" of their corrupt business model. :suss:
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer
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I was just wondering if the hosts file can support millions of domains. Thanks for your explanation! :) (I totally understand if you don't know the answer, as I do not either.)
The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.
It doesn't; the machine becomes rather slow if you go above 4 Mb. At least, a few years ago it did and I doubt that it changed.
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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That's fine, until Chrome starts mandating DNS over HTTPS "for security reasons". That bypasses the hosts file and sends the DNS queries directly to the chosen DOH server. Then, when someone starts offering a DOH server with built-in ad-blocking, Chrome will suddenly mandate that you have to use Google's DOH server "for security reasons". And oh, what a surprise: they'll "accidentally" introduce an annoying delay in responses when looking up any of their competitors. They may not be able to force you to use their advert malvertising search engine, but they can sure as hell make it as difficult as possible to use anything else. What they won't tell you is that the "security" they're interested in isn't your security; it's the "security" of their corrupt business model. :suss:
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer
Time for a DOH Pi-hole.
Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012
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Time for a DOH Pi-hole.
Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012
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That's fine, until Chrome starts mandating DNS over HTTPS "for security reasons". That bypasses the hosts file and sends the DNS queries directly to the chosen DOH server. Then, when someone starts offering a DOH server with built-in ad-blocking, Chrome will suddenly mandate that you have to use Google's DOH server "for security reasons". And oh, what a surprise: they'll "accidentally" introduce an annoying delay in responses when looking up any of their competitors. They may not be able to force you to use their advert malvertising search engine, but they can sure as hell make it as difficult as possible to use anything else. What they won't tell you is that the "security" they're interested in isn't your security; it's the "security" of their corrupt business model. :suss:
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer
The DNS over HTTPS can still be hacked with a man-in-the-middle attack as long as Windows can be made to trust any certificate we choose. But Microsoft may soon disallow that, as well.
The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.
