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Psychological profiling study finds that language-based AI models have hidden morals and values

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    Kent Sharkey
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    Tech Xplore[^]:

    Just like humans, AI-based large-language models have characteristics such as morals and values.

    "I know only that what is moral is what you feel good after and what is immoral is what you feel bad after"

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      Tech Xplore[^]:

      Just like humans, AI-based large-language models have characteristics such as morals and values.

      "I know only that what is moral is what you feel good after and what is immoral is what you feel bad after"

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      David ONeil
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      We're right on track! Cameron was prescient! [Hot Robot At SXSW Says She Wants To Destroy Humans | The Pulse](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0\_DPi0PmF0)

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        Tech Xplore[^]:

        Just like humans, AI-based large-language models have characteristics such as morals and values.

        "I know only that what is moral is what you feel good after and what is immoral is what you feel bad after"

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        Nelek
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        Article wrote:

        Just like humans, AI-based large-language models have characteristics such as morals and values.

        No fvck Sherlock... as if the fed data were so "objective", "ethical" and / or "neutral" How was the say? "Shit in, even shittier out"?

        M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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          Article wrote:

          Just like humans, AI-based large-language models have characteristics such as morals and values.

          No fvck Sherlock... as if the fed data were so "objective", "ethical" and / or "neutral" How was the say? "Shit in, even shittier out"?

          M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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          David ONeil
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          Ahhh - where's your optimism? "Point a hose of shit at a field, and grow some wonderful mushrooms!" :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

          Our Forgotten Astronomy | Object Oriented Programming with C++ | Wordle solver

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            Ahhh - where's your optimism? "Point a hose of shit at a field, and grow some wonderful mushrooms!" :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

            Our Forgotten Astronomy | Object Oriented Programming with C++ | Wordle solver

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            Nelek
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            David O'Neil wrote:

            Ahhh - where's your optimism?

            I lost it when I start seeing how our society "gets more advanced" and understanding some hidden agendas behind many "good acts" And if you can't really trust acts... don't get me started about texts explaining that acts (there are as many different versions as there are people writing about the same fact)

            David O'Neil wrote:

            "Point a hose of sh*t at a field, and grow some wonderful mushrooms!" :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

            mmmhhh... "Happy" mushrooms could actually be an idea ;P :-D

            M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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              David O'Neil wrote:

              Ahhh - where's your optimism?

              I lost it when I start seeing how our society "gets more advanced" and understanding some hidden agendas behind many "good acts" And if you can't really trust acts... don't get me started about texts explaining that acts (there are as many different versions as there are people writing about the same fact)

              David O'Neil wrote:

              "Point a hose of sh*t at a field, and grow some wonderful mushrooms!" :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

              mmmhhh... "Happy" mushrooms could actually be an idea ;P :-D

              M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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              David ONeil
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              Nelek wrote:

              mmmhhh... "Happy" mushrooms could actually be an idea ;-P :-D

              :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup: I like it!

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                Ahhh - where's your optimism? "Point a hose of shit at a field, and grow some wonderful mushrooms!" :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

                Our Forgotten Astronomy | Object Oriented Programming with C++ | Wordle solver

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                jochance
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                Mushrooms... the silver lining of shit, or some shit at least.

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                  David O'Neil wrote:

                  Ahhh - where's your optimism?

                  I lost it when I start seeing how our society "gets more advanced" and understanding some hidden agendas behind many "good acts" And if you can't really trust acts... don't get me started about texts explaining that acts (there are as many different versions as there are people writing about the same fact)

                  David O'Neil wrote:

                  "Point a hose of sh*t at a field, and grow some wonderful mushrooms!" :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

                  mmmhhh... "Happy" mushrooms could actually be an idea ;P :-D

                  M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                  jochance
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                  My take is that I don't need to bother with deciding to trust/not trust acts or worry too much about hidden agendas. If I really want any mountains moved any certain direction then worrying with what rocks other people are moving is just wasting time I could be spending moving my own rocks just the way I think they oughta be moved. Results-driven?

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                    My take is that I don't need to bother with deciding to trust/not trust acts or worry too much about hidden agendas. If I really want any mountains moved any certain direction then worrying with what rocks other people are moving is just wasting time I could be spending moving my own rocks just the way I think they oughta be moved. Results-driven?

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                    Nelek
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                    The problem is when they are moving their rocks to the position you are taken yours... ;) Eventually, you will empty the slot anyways (if they are not many or not powerful enough), but it is going to be longer and harder

                    M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                      The problem is when they are moving their rocks to the position you are taken yours... ;) Eventually, you will empty the slot anyways (if they are not many or not powerful enough), but it is going to be longer and harder

                      M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                      jochance
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                      This is only a real problem if it's a real problem to miss the destination. You're still gonna stick the landing (and lots of future ones) because you have really strong legs now from moving all those rocks. There are only absolute failures if you allow there to be.

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                        This is only a real problem if it's a real problem to miss the destination. You're still gonna stick the landing (and lots of future ones) because you have really strong legs now from moving all those rocks. There are only absolute failures if you allow there to be.

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                        Nelek
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                        I like your attitude, but life is sometimes more complicated and out of control than many would like to.

                        M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                          I like your attitude, but life is sometimes more complicated and out of control than many would like to.

                          M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                          jochance
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                          It's easy to talk big on the internet. Now just let me see if I can go walk it a bit. :D Sometimes you are absolutely right. Stuff is way more complicated and out of control the world over at the moment. Be willing to accept some unknowable consequences (if you aren't already). I've been maybe both risk-averse and risk-prone about too many of the wrong things. So dropping things (and people, at times) and listening for what screams helps to part wheat from chaff. It's what actually needs my attention. Sometimes, I just don't know how else to move any rocks.

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